should foreign gardai speak Irish?

PlayaFlow

banned for personal abuse

WhiteWashMan

Bond-007 wrote:

Nope, they should be made learn Irish. Irish is the offical langauge, I can demand that the organs of the state, gardai included address me in Irish.

English ios also the official language, and the language which 99.999% of the population can speak.

what percentage of the population use irish in a full time capacity, let alone know how to speak and understand it?

hell, i did honours irish for the leaving, and i did very well, but i doubt i could have a conversation in irish, let alone understand one.

DublinWriter

Malorkus wrote:

1) Because it has never happened before and I can't picture it.

That's a perfectly good reason to let things stay as they are then, isin't it?

Malorkus wrote:

2) Yes. I am superior to most peope - regardless of where they were born.

Why? Were you born of the blood Royal? Should we all hail you as King Malorkus the First, or just dismiss you as a tit?

Malorkus wrote:

3) No - because he's not Irish, and Gardai enforcing Irish laws unto Irish citizens should be Irish born IMO (note, I said "IMO" before any spazmos misquote me).

Just like all the Irish cops working in NYC then?, not to mention the hundreds of Irish working in UK police forces.

Dyr

So because we have more chinese stabbing each other, we need chinese gardai to deal with the problem? Brilliant. How about recruiting some junkies in the force while you're at it? Or a couple of out of work provos?? How come no-ones demanding traahveller guards?? :rolleyes:

Before we go importing police from other countries (and we're supposed to believe the background check on these guys will be as stringent as for local gardai?? like F*** it will ),should'nt we ask why the hell we've imported a load of social problems from other countries?? Or even better why we dont expect non-nationals to integrate into existing social structures. This is Ireland, if chinese people wanna deal with chinese cops theres a really big country out east that caters for that...

cotillion

astec123 wrote:

That is a very poor view, and I bet you are one of the people that say that the gardai do nothing

Sorry, couldn't stop laughing for ages, this is hilarious you sound like you think they do something!!!

IceHawk

I think what most people here are arguing is that as Irish people, it's our right to speak Irish as our only language and that the gardai should have to respect that, while the realists are saying that in actual fact, nobody outside the gaeltachts is more fluent in Irish than in English, so the gardai have no reason to learn it.

I think that gardai in primarily Irish speaking areas should have fluent Irish, while more gardai in the cities should have different languages. Someone suggested English and one other language for any guard. That would probably work, although I could see the force being flooded with foreign applicants and Irish as a language being squeezed out altogether.

CJhaughey

Bambi wrote:

Before we go importing police from other countries

We are not importing police we are talking about taking in recruits in this country to be trained as Gardai.

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Bambi wrote:

should'nt we ask why the hell we've imported a load of social problems from other countries??

Yes yes quite true our own social problems are of a completely different variety! why some of them even speak Irish! :rolleyes:

Bambi wrote:

Or even better why we dont expect non-nationals to integrate into existing social structures.

like fighting with slashhooks and pickaxe handles!

seamus

I'm closing this thread because it has contravened the "no abuse" charter so many times, yet people are just calling a racist prick a racist prick, so I won't ban them.

If someone decides to start the thread again, they'll be banned.