Vince McMahon hates Cruiserweights - And so should You.

Doubtful Donkey

Excerpt from the 8/29 Wrestling Observer Newsletter:

Vince has banned all acrobatic top rope moves such as the 450 splash and the shooting star press (but not the moonsault) after Juventud nearly injured London using the 450 on the 7/12 Smackdown from Worcester. The Vince/London discussion has become a major topic, and in fact, Kazarian was telling friends about it regarding his decision to leave.

When Vince banned the moves, London argued with him, saying thats the only way to get cruiserweights over because if they wrestle like everyone else, they can't get over. Vince made some comments about learning to work. That reminds of when 240 pound veteran wrestlers who have years of stardom "in the bank" knock 200 pound guys who have never gotten a push and try to innovate, and knock them saying they can't get over and saying they don't know how to work, like anyone will have any patience for unknown small guys doing slow paced matches.

London brought up that he was cruiserweight champion and Vince made it clear he could care less about the title. Evidently London did not get on Vince's good side, because the next thing you know, Nunzio is the champion and london was being turned heel doing a whiner gimmick, which was the kiss of death for him. There are wrestlers thinking he won't be around much longer.


Goodbye, you piece of crap Paul.

Mr.Nice Guy

*sigh*

Brow

^^^ Brilliant.

Ph3n0m

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Goodbye, you piece of crap Paul.

Oh get ready to get flamed especially by me later on, when I have time to think of a suitable come back

Malorkus

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

London brought up that he was cruiserweight champion and Vince made it clear he could care less about the title.

That means he DOES care - I f*cking hate when idiots get that phrase the wrong way around. They're actually saying the opposite of what they mean, but they're too dumb to realise it.

RebelRockChick

Did you not hear about Vince McMahon praising Rey Mysterio, a cruiserweight, and telling him how highly he thought of him not too long ago!!

London wasn't the only cruiserweight to complain about the ban, he was only named as being most upset because he does both moves that were banned and was cruiserweight champion at the time!!

Mossy Monk

seriously Doubtful Donkey, i am convinced you are nothing but a troll

Doubtful Donkey

RebelRockChick wrote:

Did you not hear about Vince McMahon praising Rey Mysterio, a cruiserweight, and telling him how highly he thought of him not too long ago!!

London wasn't the only cruiserweight to complain about the ban, he was only named as being most upset because he does both moves that were banned and was cruiserweight champion at the time!!

Because Rey Mysterio - a guy who thought bringing his SON into a feud was a good idea - is really a "great guy". Sure

And as for Mr. Nice Guy, is that your range, coming with the funny pictures? It's sad.


I'm not a troll, I've been a wrestling fan for over ten years, who's sick of these small idiots getting all the attention while real, hard working superstars like Chris Masters, HHH and JBL get ignored because they cant do 5000 rotations on a moonsault. If you want to watch crappy spotmonkeys, go watch the Jarrett promotion, or Ring of Garbage, but leave the WWE alone and stop criticising it because they ignore a guy you like

savemejebus

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

real, hard working superstars like Chris Masters, HHH and JBL

Chris Masters - ex bodybuilder, possibly vince mcmahons favourite pastime (anyone remember the WBF?)
HHH - Son in law
JBL - Nose so far up vinces ass he had to get somewher

I can see what you mean by real, hard working superstars :rolleyes:

Venom

Vince has always only liked the big guys.

Mr.Nice Guy

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

And as for Mr. Nice Guy, is that your range, coming with the funny pictures? It's sad.

Oh?

In all honesty...

Stain Boy

This is 100% absolutely, undoubtably and unconditionally a flame.

You are a sad bastard.

Mr.Nice Guy

Stain Boy wrote:

This is 100% absolutely, undoubtably and unconditionally a flame.

You are a sad bastard.

This is directed towards yourself, yes? The 00:06 post?

Go you!

Stain Boy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

This is directed towards yourself, yes? The 00:06 post?

Go you!

00:06 post was a mistake if it was not obvious.(Now removed)
00:07 post was of course directed toward our resident gimmick poster.

Mr.Nice Guy

Stain Boy wrote:

00:07 post was of course directed toward our resident gimmick poster.

But gimmick hasn't posted on this thread.

Doubtful Donkey

savemejebus wrote:

Chris Masters - ex bodybuilder, possibly vince mcmahons favourite pastime (anyone remember the WBF?)
HHH - Son in law
JBL - Nose so far up vinces ass he had to get somewher

I can see what you mean by real, hard working superstars :rolleyes:

Actually, common belief is that Masters is HHH's new pet project. HHH is a massive bodybuilding fan, going so far as frequently being a celebrity judge at those Mr. Olympia thingies they run, and, as he's admitted himself, acting the way we do when the WWE guys come to the point. In fact, you could probably link Masters' current push over Shelton Benjamin into a program with HBK into HHH's new gig on the Raw writing team

Big deal if HHH is in the family. There's no physical proof he's got political power.

Stain Boy

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Big deal if HHH is in the family. There's no physical proof he's got political power.

:rolleyes: Thats actually quite funny.

Doubtful Donkey

I'm deadly serious. There's no written, honest to god proof anywhere that says, in any terms, that he has "political power".

He's on the writing team because Vince wants a wrestler's perspective of things. He attends production meetings because the workers are invited to.



Which, not to go off on a tangent - is exactly my problem with London - Workers are encouraged to come up with their own stuff - why isn't London - surely he has an idea for a storylie or a hook for himself.

Ken Andersen doing his own ring announcing. Rob Conway's entire shtick. Benoit's coffee thing - all come up with by, you know, themselves. If London got off his arse and suggested something - I might have a little bit more respect for him.

Stalfos

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Which, not to go off on a tangent - is exactly my problem with London - Workers are encouraged to come up with their own stuff - why isn't London - surely he has an idea for a storylie or a hook for himself.

Ken Andersen doing his own ring announcing. Rob Conway's entire shtick. Benoit's coffee thing - all come up with by, you know, themselves. If London got off his arse and suggested something - I might have a little bit more respect for him.

I could be the only descent point you've made so far. Wrestlers really do have to make themselves especially in the WWE. It's pretty much the only way unless they want a stephaine mcmahon original (i bet she came up with the face mole thing) .

Doubtful Donkey

Interestingly, Steph's alleged first contribution to the writing team was making Rikishi the driver of the car that ran over Austin. That always makes me giggle.

Couple of other ones.

Nick Dinsmore invented Eugene from scratch. His favourite movie is There's Something About Mary and he based Eugene on the brother in it.

Grag Helms and Brian Gerwitz, the head of the Smackdown writing team came up with the Hurricane. All the catchphrases and stuff were Helms' own.

Carlito brought in the apple because he wanted to appear threatning, but, you know, he's Carlito, so the apple becomes his weapon.

Edge and Christian's tag team run, and their immature gits routine was based on themselves growing up.

Snitsky appears to be an almighty fluke

Kerwin White was invented by Paul Heyman - but Chavo suggested it initaillay because he wanted to get away from the Guerrero name for a while

As has being discussed elsewhere, Matt Hardy's current run is his own thing.

MNM invented their entire thing over during a roadtrip between the three.

oneofakind32

Sorry there Donkey, I havnt been reading your posts because by now I have come not to expect any prefound words of wisdom from you but I couldnt help but notice that oversized (624 x 450 {the limit is 300 x 125}) more then slightly homoerotic sig pic of yours flashing up on my screan over and over again as I dreg through the downright pathetic arguments you make. Where are the mods when u need them? My original oversized sig pic was deleted without warning

Mr.Nice Guy

I have to laugh at the suggestion that wrestlers should be doing more themselves to come up with angles, especially since one of the biggest gripes right now from wresttlers is that they are having to stick too close to the scripts given to them by the writers.

Indeed, Percy Pringle (Paul Bearer) has recently been critical of the WWE for not allowing WWE wrestlers to stray from the script once in a while.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Stone Cold has also highlighted this fact referring to how his 3:16 bit towards Jake the Snake which was made by him on the spot.

The reality is, the writers aren't allowing wresters be creative enough.

Doubtful Donkey

I have to laugh at the suggestion that wrestlers should be doing more themselves to come up with angles, especially since one of the biggest gripes right now from wresttlers is that they are having to stick too close to the scripts given to them by the writers

>>> They should try. And besides, if you let wrestlers go off the script, god only knows what crap London will come out with.

Indeed, Percy Pringle (Paul Bearer) has recently been critical of the WWE for not allowing WWE wrestlers to stray from the script once in a while.

>>> Who is this person, because I don't seem to see him on Raw or Smackdown, and therefore has no right to say anything about the product.

The reality is, the writers aren't allowing wresters be creative enough

>>> John Cena.

Sorry there Donkey, I havnt been reading your posts because by now I have come not to expect any prefound words of wisdom from you but I couldnt help but notice that oversized (624 x 450 {the limit is 300 x 125}) more then slightly homoerotic sig pic of yours flashing up on my screan over and over again as I dreg through the downright pathetic arguments you make. Where are the mods when u need them? My original oversized sig pic was deleted without warning

>>> Go to control panel and turn sigs off.

Also, I wasn't actually aware homosexuality and having a picture of a guy in your sig was actually illegal

Mr.Nice Guy

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> They should try. And besides, if you let wrestlers go off the script, god only knows what crap London will come out with.

Yeah, they should try and risk losing their jobs. That makes sense. :rolleyes:
And what's with the London remark? I thought you wanted them to go off the script? Now you don't?

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> Who is this person, because I don't seem to see him on Raw or Smackdown, and therefore has no right to say anything about the product.

LOL. By that logic, neither do you! Thankfully freedom of speech is a right that even Vince McMahon must put up with...

Myself wrote:

The reality is, the writers aren't allowing wresters be creative enough

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> John Cena.

Cena? You think that guy writes his own stuff? You think his five questions segment on WWE.com is his idea? LOL. Cena is about as real as Chris Masters' muscles...

Doubtful Donkey

LOL. By that logic, neither do you! Thankfully freedom of speech is a right that even Vince McMahon must put up with.

I don't criticise the WWE

Mossy Monk

ah, so you can talk about the way the WWE is run as long as you dont criticise it. what a load of bull****

Ph3n0m

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Actually, common belief is that Masters is HHH's new pet project. HHH is a massive bodybuilding fan, going so far as frequently being a celebrity judge at those Mr. Olympia thingies they run, and, as he's admitted himself, acting the way we do when the WWE guys come to the point. In fact, you could probably link Masters' current push over Shelton Benjamin into a program with HBK into HHH's new gig on the Raw writing team

And its good that a guy with actual talent (aka Benjamin) has to job to another beef-eater? Aye that kind of thing can only promote good wrestling all around

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Big deal if HHH is in the family. There's no physical proof he's got political power.

Damn where to start - his 10 titles reigns, his obvious squashes of more talented wrestlers (Jericho, RVD, etc) or the fact that he hogs more time on Raw then even any current champion? Oh yeah HHH has absolutely no power backstage - that is why he is the only wrestler sitting in on the creative meetings - not even the other champions/wrestlers are allowed do that - I am quoting Dave Meltzer from a newsletter from ages ago

Doubtful Donkey

And its good that a guy with actual talent (aka Benjamin) has to job to another beef-eater? Aye that kind of thing can only promote good wrestling all around

>>> Benjamin SUCKS in the ring, and charisma wise...wait doesn't have any

Damn where to start - his 10 titles reigns, his obvious squashes of more talented wrestlers (Jericho, RVD, etc) or the fact that he hogs more time on Raw then even any current champion? Oh yeah HHH has absolutely no power backstage - that is why he is the only wrestler sitting in on the creative meetings - not even the other champions/wrestlers are allowed do that - I am quoting Dave Meltzer from a newsletter from ages ago

>>>WOW!!! Considering he hasn't been on TV since June, OF COURSE he's hogging all the airtime. Every show since Vengeance has been a HHH-fest. YOU FVCKING MORON.

RVD is hideously untalented, and nearly killed HHH and regualry injures people, so I'm not really surprised he got "buried"

Ph3n0m

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Benjamin SUCKS in the ring

Oh I nearly started laughing here, and then I realised you are quite serious, so now I am crying with laughter

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

WOW!!! Considering he hasn't been on TV since June, OF COURSE he's hogging all the airtime. Every show since Vengeance has been a HHH-fest. YOU FVCKING MORON.

RVD is hideously untalented, and nearly killed HHH and regualry injures people, so I'm not really surprised he got "buried"

Er no, what I meant was when HHH was champion he hogged most of the air time on RAW, and when he wasnt champion, uhm oh yeah he hogged a lot of air time on RAW.

RVD = untalented, hmm do you normally watch wrestling with your eyes closed? What about all the other wrestlers HHH has dumped on? Y2J? Booker T? Kane? Them and more, all hideously non talented wrestlers?? Well if you say yes then you must watch wrestling with your eyes closed

And as for telling me to "fvck off" - well I think I shall start the chant of "nah nah nah nah wahhhhay goodbye", cause you will be banned before the end of the day

Doubtful Donkey

Er no, what I meant was when HHH was champion he hogged most of the air time on RAW, and when he wasnt champion, uhm oh yeah he hogged a lot of air time on RAW.

>>>Here's a fascinating concept for you. The WORLD CHAMPION really out to be the focal point of the show. Unlike, say, the Jarrett promotion in the themepark where the entire point of the show is to build up people for Jeff Jarrett to beat, in the WWE, the champion and his challengers are built up to, you know, headline a PPV.

RVD = untalented, hmm do you normally watch wrestling with your eyes closed? What about all the other wrestlers HHH has dumped on? Y2J? Booker T? Kane? Them and more, all hideously non talented wrestlers?? Well if you say yes then you must watch wrestling with your eyes closed

>>>Well Jericho doesn't work for the WWE anymore (thank God) so he doesn't count. Booker T never should have been in the ME in the first place, and I've never really seen evidence that Kane was "dumped on"

Ph3n0m

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>>Here's a fascinating concept for you. The WORLD CHAMPION really out to be the focal point of the show. Unlike, say, the Jarrett promotion in the themepark where the entire point of the show is to build up people for Jeff Jarrett to beat, in the WWE, the champion and his challengers are built up to, you know, headline a PPV.

And here is an original concept for you - giving other wrestlers enough air time to provide quality wrestling matches, instead of a greedy, self manipulating guy stealing more air time then is actually needed to get himself over (which as a champ he should have been). Guess if you force yourself down peoples throats, then eventually have to swallow your **** - and that is what HHH has being doing, guess you are still going around with your eyes closed.

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>>Well Jericho doesn't work for the WWE anymore (thank God) so he doesn't count. Booker T never should have been in the ME in the first place, and I've never really seen evidence that Kane was "dumped on"

You really are quite foolish. Y2J was "fired" as part of angle to take time off from WWE so he could tour with his band Fozzy, he is expected back at the start of 2006

As for evidence of Kane being dumped on - ok then explain how he went from this evil athletic monster to an unmasked, bad haircut guy whose last championship feud with HHH centered on HHH humping a "corpse", claiming Kane was a necophiliac and oh before I forget HHH crapping all over the legacy of the IC title by getting it dropped. And dont tell me the IC title means nothing - in its past it had some better feuds then even the heavyweight title did

Booker T should never have been in the ME??? So his years of dedication to wrestling, his time under crappy gimmicks should go unrewarded? Yeah I can see that working out.

Doubtful Donkey

You haven't looked at Chris Jericho's website lately, have ya. At anyrate, he'd off my TV, which is the best place for him. It's time younger workers like Chris Masters get the attention Jericho gets. Summerslam was an embarrassment. Jericho has meant NOTHING for the past year, and suddenly he gets a title shot? Horsesh!t.



And here is an original concept for you - giving other wrestlers enough air time to provide quality wrestling matches, instead of a greedy, self manipulating guy stealing more air time then is actually needed to get himself over (which as a champ he should have been). Guess if you force yourself down peoples throats, then eventually have to swallow your **** - and that is what HHH has being doing, guess you are still going around with your eyes closed.

>>> So, what the hell is the WWE supposed to do? You'd announce a title match of HHH vs. Shawn Micheals and go "Well Fans, we dont actually let HHH on TV anymore, so there's going to be no buildup for the World Heavyweight Title match in five weeks" Meanwhile, here's Shelton Benjamin doing a bad impersonation of Sting. BUY THE PAY PERVIEW!

If you want "quality wrestling matches" watch New Japan. If you want Sports Entertainment; watch Raw. Or Smackdown. I like Ken Kennedy guy.

Ph3n0m

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

You haven't looked at Chris Jericho's website lately, have ya. At anyrate, he'd off my TV, which is the best place for him. It's time younger workers like Chris Masters get the attention Jericho gets. Summerslam was an embarrassment. Jericho has meant NOTHING for the past year, and suddenly he gets a title shot? Horsesh!t.

And the reason he hasnt meant anything for a year or more is thanks to the ever lovely HHH And as for Jericho's website - I presume you are talking about the one day where he briefly posted an image of him against the TNA banner - sorry that is what we call jericho working the internet wrestling fans

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> So, what the hell is the WWE supposed to do? You'd announce a title match of HHH vs. Shawn Micheals and go "Well Fans, we dont actually let HHH on TV anymore, so there's going to be no buildup for the World Heavyweight Title match in five weeks" Meanwhile, here's Shelton Benjamin doing a bad impersonation of Sting. BUY THE PAY PERVIEW!

And again you miss the point - I was pointing out that HHH dominates all of RAW whether he was champ or not - no champion needs to be constantly and regularly all over the 2 hours. Next time try and use your sarcasm for good instead of making yourself to be completely foolish.

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

If you want "quality wrestling matches" watch New Japan. If you want Sports Entertainment; watch Raw. Or Smackdown. I like Ken Kennedy guy.

It doesnt matter wrestling you watch, each company should be able to provide quality wrestling matches with the talent at their disposal - its just a pity that HHH never moved aside and let others show their stuff - oh thats right, they never got enough time due to him hogging most of RAW's airtime.

You obviously dont remember how angles used to be done - 15 minutes involving each wrestler - angle was made and continued within that small time frame each week til the PPV. That is until he became champ.

But this has nothing to with RAW/Smackdown - this has to do with you not appreciating the talents of the cruiserweights, who dont all do 5000 flips, etc. I point out cruisers such as Rey, Jamie Noble, Akio, Paul London, Spanky, etc - each one of them has more talen then Chris Masters....and dont judge them on their most recent angles (aka the Dominic scenario) - think more of the total of their careers and what matches they have participated in.

Doubtful Donkey

I'll judge Rey Mysterio on the Dominick Angle until the day he buggers off to the themepark.

Jamie Knoble - steroid abuser
Akio - Fired
Paul London - garbage
Spanky - quit the WWE voluntarily (maniac)


It doesnt matter wrestling you watch, each company should be able to provide quality wrestling matches with the talent at their disposal - its just a pity that HHH never moved aside and let others show their stuff - oh thats right, they never got enough time due to him hogging most of RAW's airtime.

>>> OH GOD, I CAN'T THINK OF THAT GUY! Edge, Matt Hardy, Chris Masters, Carlito, The Big Show, Snitsky, Kerwin White, Rob Conway, Rene Dupree, Val Venis, Shawn Micheals, Trish Stratus, Victoria, Doug and Danny Basham, Dave Bastista, Chris Benoit, JBL, Orlando Jordan, Nunzio, MNM, Christian, William Regal, Heidenreich, Simon Dean and The Undertaker,

Yes Buddy, theeir careers have been RUINED by HHH hogging all the airtime since he, you know, took himself off TV.


And again you miss the point - I was pointing out that HHH dominates all of RAW whether he was champ or not - no champion needs to be constantly and regularly all over the 2 hours.

>>> Jeff Jarrett. John Cena gets a bizarre amount of promotime aswell.


think more of the total of their careers and what matches they have participated in.

>>> 3 Iron Man Matches, six/seven? Hell In A Cell Matches, how many fvcking awesome matches with The Rock, Shawn Micheals, Chris Benoit. 14 years in the business. I'll remember HHH whatever way I damn please.

Ph3n0m

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

I'll judge Rey Mysterio on the Dominick Angle until the day he buggers off to the themepark.

Jamie Knoble - steroid abuser
Akio - Fired
Paul London - garbage
Spanky - quit the WWE voluntarily (maniac)

In case you didnt know Spanky is back with WWE

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> OH GOD, I CAN'T THINK OF THAT GUY! Edge, Matt Hardy, Chris Masters, Carlito, The Big Show, Snitsky, Kerwin White, Rob Conway, Rene Dupree, Val Venis, Shawn Micheals, Trish Stratus, Victoria, Doug and Danny Basham, Dave Bastista, Chris Benoit, JBL, Orlando Jordan, Nunzio, MNM, Christian, William Regal, Heidenreich, Simon Dean and The Undertaker,

Yes Buddy, theeir careers have been RUINED by HHH hogging all the airtime since he, you know, took himself off TV.

And most of the guys you mentioned wrestler on Smackdown, you tool. Now from your list lets look at those who wrestle on RAW regularly

Edge, Matt Hardy - dead ended feud
Chris Masters - despite what you say, is still not over
Carlito - oh yes he has shone on RAW, considering he was a bigger star on Smackdown
The Big Show - has always been wasted by WWE
Snitsky - and he has done what since the Lita/Kane angle?
Kerwin White - oh yes another successful gimmick for Chavo
Val Venis - sorry but what? He hasnt done anything memorable in over 2 years
Rob Conway, Rene Dupree - non entities on RAW
Shawn Micheals - the only stand out, and he is featured, cause he is over, he can make anyone look like a million dollars

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> Jeff Jarrett. John Cena gets a bizarre amount of promotime aswell.

Funny, I never once mention JJ. Cena's promo time is only a small fraction compared to HHH's time

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> 3 Iron Man Matches, six/seven? Hell In A Cell Matches, how many fvcking awesome matches with The Rock, Shawn Micheals, Chris Benoit. 14 years in the business. I'll remember HHH whatever way I damn please.

And how many of those matches was he carried through. You also seem to forget a)most of those matches, HHH went over his opponent, b) his opponents went out of their way to make him look goof (Foley, Y2J, Benoit, etc). And finally most of his best matches, where well before he injured his kneww and came back all buffed, stuffed and hopped up on steroids

Doubtful Donkey

So? He still came back, didn't he. I'll eternally have more respect for HHH for being critically injured in a match and still finishing it (TWICE!!!) than a guy like Rey Mysterio, who thought it would be a good idea to involve his sun in a crappy feud.

Also, if HHH was in a pointless feud with someone over four PPV's, you'd be screaming blue muder, but Rey and Cheech Guerrero get a free pass? That's hypocrisy

savemejebus

watch it man, you can get away with "your opinion" but racial slurs are a no no here

Ph3n0m

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

So? He still came back, didn't he. I'll eternally have more respect for HHH for being critically injured in a match and still finishing it (TWICE!!!) than a guy like Rey Mysterio, who thought it would be a good idea to involve his sun in a crappy feud.

Really? So it had nothing to do with the script writers at all - especially since most if not all the current creative staff, know nothing about the wrestling industry and have only been hired for their past work on regular TV shows?

And I never said I had no respect for HHH, especially finishing that tag match with Austin against Benoit and y2J (funny how his name keeps popping up) - but what other match are you talking about where he finished it injured?

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Also, if HHH was in a pointless feud with someone over four PPV's, you'd be screaming blue muder, but Rey and Cheech Guerrero get a free pass? That's hypocrisy

But thats the point, HHH has been involved in pointless feuds over PPVs - you mean you cant remember his feud with his wife Stephanie, Y2J and hand cream? WHen in fact the feuds should have solely been HHH and Y2J - thats some selective memory you have there

Amz

Ladies, can we keep the personal insults to a minimum please.

Doubtful Donkey, your signature is massive please get rid of it, I couldn't be arsed removing it from all of your posts.

Doubtful Donkey

And I never said I had no respect for HHH, especially finishing that tag match with Austin against Benoit and y2J (funny how his name keeps popping up) - but what other match are you talking about where he finished it injured?

>>> The elimination Chamber match where RVD carelessly drove his knee into HHH's throat from the top of one of those little cages, nearly crushing HHH's larynx. I maintain to this day that RVD should have been fired for it.

But thats the point, HHH has been involved in pointless feuds over PPVs - you mean you cant remember his feud with his wife Stephanie, Y2J and hand cream? WHen in fact the feuds should have solely been HHH and Y2J - thats some selective memory you have there

>>>Jericho isn't over enough to carry his end of a feud

watch it man, you can get away with "your opinion" but racial slurs are a no no here

>>> WHAT RACIAL SLUR?

Doubtful Donkey

Paul London is off the road attending to a personal family issue. London was very vocal about the limitations put on the cruiserweight division a few weeks back, including voicing those frustrations to Vince McMahon himself. London promptly dropped the title.. Management is hoping when he returns, that he will return with a less “negative” attitude.

savemejebus

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

>>> WHAT RACIAL SLUR?

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Cheech Guerrero

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Doubtful Donkey

gimmick wrote:

Hhhhmmm, Doubtful Donkey reminds me of a couple of posters (one person, different handles) who havent been here for a while, and If it is who I think it is, I would be EXTREMELY pissed off, as he has no VALID REASON to start trolling here. I would certainly lose an awful lot of respect for that person.

You better. I've never been here before.

Cheech Guerrero

BOY, some people get offended at the smallest thing, don't they.

Doubtful Donkey

OBVIOUSLY, How dare I annoy people by saying I think Paul London should be fired fortwith. HOW DARE I have another opinion other than a mindless "cruiserweights rule because they can do a moonsault"

How dare you accuse me of being someone else. If you'd like, I have MSN Messenger and Yahoo Messenger, and I'll talk to you all night to prove I'm not anyone else.


And how the hell am I trying to "wind people up"????????????

Mr.Nice Guy

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

OBVIOUSLY, How dare I annoy people by saying I think Paul London should be fired fortwith. HOW DARE I have another opinion other than a mindless "cruiserweights rule because they can do a moonsault"

How dare you resort to this:

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

Goodbye, you piece of crap Paul

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

And how the hell am I trying to "wind people up"????????????

Doubtful Donkey wrote:

YOU FVCKING MORON

Charming language.

I think you're a troll to be honest. How much longer are we going to have to put up with this bile?

Doubtful Donkey

Ok, look, I come here, after a long day at work, and this guy who i don't know from Adam accuses me of being a Previously Banned Poster. Ok, did he wake up and say "God I'm gonna p!ss someone off today, let's start with the guy who ~gasp~ dosn't like the cruiserweights, maybe he'll p!ss off a mod and get banned, and we'll get back to sh!tting all over Chris Masters because God decided he was going to be 6'3 and 250 lbs, and he decided to be a wrestler. How dare he want to be a wrestler and not be able to do a shooting star press. My God! he shouldnt be in the WWE. How dare this Dave O'Neill guy like him, is he insane>!"

gimmick

^ I apologised in PM, so lets leave it at that, or do you want to report that also?

Amz

Doubtful Donkey your new signature is also in violation of the sig rules.

Please read the rules and change it accordingly.

Doubtful Donkey

Chris Masters was in the Main Event of Raw last night and defeated Ric Flair. i hope everyone's dealt with that.

Ph3n0m

hehehe, nope especially since plenty of others have main evented RAW before him and they are currently in the "where are they now" category

And anyway that shows how good Flair is - he will put over most people, even green wrestlers like Masters

Doubtful Donkey

My point is - Masters isnt going anywhere, while Paul London gets to watch him on TV