Sunderland.....going down

PHB

Does anybody on this board believe that Sunderland can actually stay up?
No points from 4 matches.
2 goals scored.
Just lost a huge 6 pointer.

Anyone?

Necronomicon

I think they've been unlucky in some of the games, but I had them down as relegation contenders before the season started, and I'll stick to it. I don't think they have enough quality up front.

KdjaCL

Elliot got a full game and thats all that matters.


kdjac

Jivin Turkey

Not a chance

They won the championship with a lot to spare last year. I think they have the ability to stay up once they steady the ship.

There is enough poor teams that stayed up last year which means that promoted sides are in with as good a chance of ever of staying up.

Im looking at you Portsmouth and West Brom.

evilhomer

Not a chance

Newcastle haven't even scored a goal yet!!!

It's too early to say yet.
this time last year west brom were the team that was going down, no-one believed any different. But the hung on by the skin of their teeth.

34 more games to go, far too early to be guessing.

Seaneh

maybe

I think they are 3 or 4 players away from a decaint squad.
They need a goal scorer, stead and elliot are good but not good enough.
They laso need atleast one good centre midfeilder, robinson and whitehead just arent good enough at this level.

therecklessone

Its not looking good, is it?

There are plenty of teams that will be in the melting pot come the end of the season. Pompey and Fulham are going to have difficult seasons, and Wigan are in the reckoning too. I have to say, I don't see anyone in the Mackem's squad capable of giving them some self belief, and I think they'll go back down.

Lemlin

Sunderland will go down with Portsmouth and Fulham. Fulham had a good result today but their squad is weak and they caught Everton on a low ebb after crashing out of the Champions League.

jubbly

I voted havent a chance but they will defintely be one of the teams near the bottom fighting relegation.

Mick is best fighting to stay up. He best qualities is those relegation battles so see what happens

KdjaCL

jubbly wrote:

Mick is best fighting to stay up. He best qualities is those relegation battles so see what happens

Yes he is damn what a fighter in relegation battles i mean 19(22 now) straight defeats in a row....whadda guy!!!!!




kdjac

jubbly

Bye bye Mick, enjoy the championship next season

wheres me jumpa

they have been a tad unlucky at times and the fact that its so early in the season, i think theres alot to happen before they are going down.

one major dissappointment has been their home attendance, what the fcuk is the story? they used to be so well supported.

therecklessone

jubbly wrote:

Mick is best fighting to stay up. He best qualities is those relegation battles so see what happens

23 minutes later...

jubbly wrote:

Bye bye Mick, enjoy the championship next season

F*ck me, you're like a yoyo...

horseflesh

Hopefully they will go down.

They are just one of those teams that I irrationally dislike.

DoctorEdgeWild

Not a chance

I think it's gonna be really tough for them but I don't think they'll be so poor that they will take Swindon's record (95 goals against I think??). I'm pretty sure they will be in the bottom 3 when the final day comes.

It is unusual how they took the Championship so comprehensively last season and are struggling so far in the Premiership. Adds fuel to the argument about the gulf in class between the Prem and the Champ, nothing Abramovich's money wouldn't fix I'd say.

However, its VERY early days at the moment. Bring back Peter Reid I say

therecklessone

DoctorEdgeWild wrote:

It is unusual how they took the Championship so comprehensively last season and are struggling so far in the Premiership. Adds fuel to the argument about the gulf in class between the Prem and the Champ, nothing Abramovich's money wouldn't fix I'd say.

Sunderland transfers out:

Neill Collins Hartlepool United
Michael Bridges Bristol City
Thomas Myhre Fredrikstad
Sean Thornton Doncaster Rovers
Michael Ingham Wrexham
Brian Deane Out of Contract
Jeff Whitley Cardiff City
Mark Lynch Hull City
Marcus Stewart Bristol City
Richie Ryan Scunthorpe United

Sunderland transfers in:

Christian Bassila Strasbourg
Andy Gray Sheffield United
Joe Murphy West Bromwich Albion
Anthony Le Tallec Liverpool
Alan Stubbs Out of Contract
Martin Woods Leeds United
Tommy Miller Ipswich Town
Kelvin Davis Ipswich Town
Jon Stead Blackburn Rovers
Nyron Nosworthy Gillingham
Daryl Murphy Waterford

Theres your answer IMO. More than half the team that lost yesterday arrived in the Summer. Its a hard enough task staying up as it is, without having to bed down a half dozen new signings.

Draupnir

I'll tell ya why Sunderland are struggling the way they are, McCarthy is the most tactically inepot cabbage I've ever seen manage in the Premier league.

He has a lone striker up front and absolutely nothing in the middle of midfield to win the ball or create an attack. They dont look to bad at the back apart from that clown Gary Breen.

When your lone striker is Jon Stead who quite frankly, is a terrible front man for this level, then you are always going to have problems. Elliot is wasted on the right wing really and Nosworthy at right full is fairly poor.

THey do have a decent enough squad of players if McCarthy would go 4-4-2 with Gray and Elliot up front, this new Bassila might make a big difference in midfield. I can see them getting some points anyway but relegation looks likely.

They were very unlucky yesterday, Breen should have left the header to the keeper and Roberts blatantly dived, but why was Breen even heading it when he could see all 11 wigan players in front of him? Cos hes a clown defender probably.

Stead's greed also cost them a clear goal when he could have left the ball for the man behind him but decided to drag it wide feebly.

KdjaCL

Their problems do lie in CM , he needs to find his best 4 fast.


kdjac

fergmcd

I cant see Sunderland staying up at all i dont think they have the skill or ability needed to stay up. They seem to be the only really weak team this year in the premiership i can see them going down at earliest date yet in history of premiership. Prob get into double figures for points around x-mas. Whether their neighbours newcastle stay up or even get top 15 is a question for another day (unless that gimp of a manager Graeme Souness is sacked, he ruined Liverpool/Blackburn and now Newcastle i say give him the England job)

Mossy Monk

Not a chance

i think its too early to say yes, but it wouldnt surprise me

Jivin Turkey

Not a chance

fergmcd wrote:

They seem to be the only really weak team this year in the premiership i can see them going down at earliest date yet in history of premiership. Prob get into double figures for points around x-mas.

Lets be honest here, there are plenty of weak teams in the Premiership. Id say it will be the tightest relegation battle yet. The three promoted sides are obviously candidates for relegation. WBA and Portsmouth (who have looked very shaky since the departure of Redknapp) will also be in the mix.

After four games, to say you can see them going down at the earliest date yet in the history of the Premiership (and just to let you know football did exist pre 1992) is nothing short of ridiculous. Im sure you dont even know what that record is for Gods sake!

fergmcd wrote:

Whether their neighbours newcastle stay up or even get top 15 is a question for another day (unless that gimp of a manager Graeme Souness is sacked, he ruined Liverpool/Blackburn and now Newcastle i say give him the England job)

Boards.ie is a wonderful place. They even have a personal issues forum.

Draupnir

Jivin Turkey wrote:

After four games, to say you can see them going down at the earliest date yet in the history of the Premiership (and just to let you know football did exist pre 1992)

Yeah, but the Premiership didnt. Its a completely different league to the old First Division, run by an independant body to the FA.