Newcastle sign Owen

Pacifico

Breaking news on SPN.

He's signed a 4 year deal

Chong

Gutted for him , but all the same what a complete idiot nobody catches a ride on a sinking ship.

Iago

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4196760.stm

cerbeus

Hopefully this is the end of it. Now Rafa can concentrate on signing his RM & CB like he has always wanted. This should also make sure that Cisse remains at least until the next transfer window.

On the right midfielder, there are reports of Solano signing for 1.5mil.

p.pete

Doh!
Makes giving Baros away seem all the sillier, I hope Rafa knows what he's doing, I'm not so sure at the moment...

segadreamcast

Glad we kept Cisse to be honest. Call me mad, but I'd rather have Cisse (+5-8 million) than Owen right now...

evilhomer

Great signing for newcastle.

WDK: hardly a sinking ship.
Signings like Emre, Parker, Luque, Owen. they are quality players that can turn a game for any side.

Now for a centre-half!

evilhomer

NoelRock wrote:

Glad we kept Cisse to be honest. Call me mad, but I'd rather have Cisse (+5-8 million) than Owen right now...

Your need for a centre-half is as pressing as our need was for a centre forward. Benitez knows this, hence not paying the money Newcastle have.

Benitez knows that if things don't work out at newcastle he will go to liverpool.

pickarooney

Whatever happened the Gonzalez (? Chilean chap) deal? I know there were problems over a work permit, but did Liverpool appeal?

evilhomer

Lost the appeal, because Chile are 72nd in the FIFA rankings.
need to be in the top 70 teams to get a work permit. which sucks!

Oriel

I'm gutted about this move for him.
Then again, he left in the first place...

StickyMcGinty

evilhomer wrote:

Great signing for newcastle.

WDK: hardly a sinking ship.
Signings like Emre, Parker, Luque, Owen. they are quality players that can turn a game for any side.

pity they're not turning out for newcastle.

doesnt matter who you have playing for you if they're not gonna play well, you really think your gonna even get in to the UEFA cup next season? 1 point from 12 and losing to Bolton and only taking a point off west ham sounds like a sinking ship to me

silly decision for owen, really silly. like someone said, at least thats that distraction gone for rafa, but i'm not confident of signing anyone in the next 36 hours

TheMonster

He needs to be playing before the world cup. Obviously he feels even playing for Newcastle is better than not playing at all.

As his preferred choice was Liverpool they musn't have coughed up enough money, either that or his talks didn't go well(would he play every game or even most games for the pool - not sure in the current formation that they are using)

p.pete

VinnyL wrote:

evilhomer wrote:

Great signing for newcastle.

WDK: hardly a sinking ship.
Signings like Emre, Parker, Luque, Owen. they are quality players that can turn a game for any side.

pity they're not turning out for newcastle.

doesnt matter who you have playing for you if they're not gonna play well, you really think your gonna even get in to the UEFA cup next season? 1 point from 12 and losing to Bolton and only taking a point off west ham sounds like a sinking ship to me

silly decision for owen, really silly. like someone said, at least thats that distraction gone for rafa, but i'm not confident of signing anyone in the next 36 hours

In fairness to Newcastle Emre will probalby need time to settle, ditto for Luque but then he's only just arrived anyway - same as Owen. Parker is over-rated.

galwaydude

owen the greedy b**t**d, all this crap i want to go to liverpool, bet it was a ploy all along to get the right money at newcastle. Hopefully now we can move on and get a cb and a rw and hopefully someone with genuine quality

Chong

evilhomer wrote:

Great signing for newcastle.

WDK: hardly a sinking ship.
Signings like Emre, Parker, Luque, Owen. they are quality players that can turn a game for any side.

Now for a centre-half!

Not a sinking ship,

1) They haven't scored once since the start of the season

2) Alan Shearer looks like he has come to the end of his career and should have quit at the end of last season.

3) Luque has been good in the past but was hardly prolific last season with depor.

4) Bowyer and Dyer hate each other.

5) Jenas hates playing for newcastle and more over Graeme Souness

6) Freddie Shepard is an idiot to have ever signed Souness as manager.

7) They have a rubbish defense.

8) Dyers and parker's injury records are dire.

9) Bobby should have not been sacked at the start of last season.

10) Finally Graeme Souness is rubbish manager just look at his record in England.

evilhomer

VinnyL wrote:

doesnt matter who you have playing for you if they're not gonna play well, you really think your gonna even get in to the UEFA cup next season? 1 point from 12 and losing to Bolton and only taking a point off west ham sounds like a sinking ship to me

Its a bad start I admit, but Bolton are a tough team to beat (Everyone struggles to beat them).
Arsenal and Man Utd. we played well against them, competed very well, we were just missing the killer instinct in front of goal.
West Ham game we would have won if we had two fit strikers.
We will beat most of the other teams in the league if we have a fully fit squad.
I bet we will be harder to beat in a 4-4-2.

jcoote

great for newcastle but bad for the pool...its not good to miss out on a 20+ a year man (goals that is)...how much???

eirebhoy

VinnyL wrote:

doesnt matter who you have playing for you if they're not gonna play well, you really think your gonna even get in to the UEFA cup next season? 1 point from 12 and losing to Bolton and only taking a point off west ham sounds like a sinking ship to me

17/08/2003 14:00 Leeds United 2-2 Newcastle United
23/08/2003 12:00 Newcastle United 1-2 Manchester United
30/08/2003 15:00 Newcastle United 0-1 Birmingham
13/09/2003 15:00 Everton 2-2 Newcastle United
20/09/2003 15:00 Newcastle United 0-0 Bolton Wanderers
26/09/2003 20:00 Arsenal 3-2 Newcastle United

Guy:Incognito

eirebhoy wrote:

17/08/2003 14:00 Leeds United 2-2 Newcastle United
23/08/2003 12:00 Newcastle United 1-2 Manchester United
30/08/2003 15:00 Newcastle United 0-1 Birmingham
13/09/2003 15:00 Everton 2-2 Newcastle United
20/09/2003 15:00 Newcastle United 0-0 Bolton Wanderers
26/09/2003 20:00 Arsenal 3-2 Newcastle United

Ahh but notice how many goals they hscored in those games. Tehy just had to stop conceding 2 a game. Now they have to do that and score. Owen is not going to score 7 goals in that run of games.

StickyMcGinty

20+? you need service to get 20 plus goals. and he hasnt played 90 mins for a while either, it'll be a quoet season for owen

p.pete

Stekelly wrote:

Ahh but notice how many goals they hscored in those games. Tehy just had to stop conceding 2 a game. Now they have to do that and score. Owen is not going to score 7 goals in that run of games.

No but 2 goals in the Bolton and everton games would have made a huge difference

Obviously they still need to figure out how to defend, Owen certainly isn't going to help them hold onto the ball anymore. If they can sort it out - maybe through a more stable midfield then they could go quite well this season.

Lemlin

Its a bad start I admit, but Bolton are a tough team to beat (Everyone struggles to beat them).
Arsenal and Man Utd. we played well against them, competed very well, we were just missing the killer instinct in front of goal.
West Ham game we would have won if we had two fit strikers.

You could go through every team in the Premiership making an argument why Newcastle could find them tricky to beat. Fact is Newcastle should be beating West Ham and Bolton and at least looking for draws with Man Utd and Arsenal.

And, has nobody else noticed that they are paying twice as much for Owen as Madrid paid a year ago? And people say Chelsea are the only team who pay over the odds.

StickyMcGinty

owen will be souness last signing. cant see him lasting till january.

and lemlin, your right, shockin bad businness by the castle, right i'll start off the betting on souness being sacked, i'd say start of december!

Guy:Incognito

p.pete wrote:

No but 2 goals in the Bolton and everton games would have made a huge difference .

There missing the forst two goals to get them to 2-2 this season though.

Chong

What the odds on Souness been sacked by January?

jcoote

4 more losses and he's out imo??

the price of owen again illustrates the ridiculous prices in the english domestic market(last example obviously bein wright phillips)

Lemlin

Signings like Emre, Parker, Luque, Owen. they are quality players that can turn a game for any side.

Interesting to see that Boumsong has dropped off that list since his horror show at the weekend. Owen can turn a game. Not sure about Parker and it remains to be seen how Luque and Emre perform. Emre, like alot of the Newcastle team, is already having injury problems.

shockin bad businness by the castle

Not the first bad bit of business either. 8.5 million for Boumsong. Rangers must have been laughing all the way to the bank, they hadn't even paid a penny for him.

BolBill

Maybe the daftest move ever !!! leaves The Champions Of Europe to join Real to win trophies, wins nothing, then joins a team that hasn't won a trophy since, eh...., mmmm..... prohabition FFS !!! He'll shine up there only because the rest of them are muck. Sourness is an awful manager and young Micheal will soon find out.

cournioni

Good signing for Newcastle. They might have a chance of getting into Europe now.

pickarooney

Newcastle can only improve from their rubbish start, and have done so pretty much every season for the last few years. If their rise up the table coincides with Owen's arrival it will only do good for his profile. He's done pretty well with Shearer for England, so it's probably a fair bet that he'll score well into double figures, injuries permitting.

TheMonster

looks like Real were prepared to keep him rather than let him go to Liverpool for a cut price fee(compared to what N'Castle bid). So Owen had only really one option stay or go to Newcastle and in Wrold Cup year he reckons its the lesser of 2 evils.

Big Ears

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Good signing for Newcastle. They might have a chance of getting into Europe now.

Finally somone is realistic . It seems many of you have been comentating on Newcastle's poor start without having wathced the games .
The main thing missing was another outlet up front , Owen will not only score goals but will create them in this Newcastle side .

Newcastle always start badly , but apparently its worse this year because instead of conceading lots every game their not scoring :rolleyes: , now a world class striker has been brought in and IMO will rectify the problem . Yet some beleive this is a sinking ship .

Lemlin you seem to doubt Emre but he will prove to you and many others he is world class .

Lemlin

They might have a chance of getting into Europe now.

Can't see it happening. I'd rate Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Charlton, Boro, Tottenham and Man City all as better teams at the minute. No matter what signings Souness makes.

Maybe the daftest move ever !!! leaves The Champions Of Europe to join Real to win trophies, wins nothing, then joins a team that hasn't won a trophy since, eh...., mmmm..... prohabition FFS !!! He'll shine up there only because the rest of them are muck. Sourness is an awful manager and young Micheal will soon find out.

Never before has acting like a big shot blown up so much in someone's face. I'd imagine Michael now wishes Madrid had never came near him. I'd also imagine alot of Liverpool supporters are thinking that it serves him right.

ziggy

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evilhomer

Lemlin wrote:

Interesting to see that Boumsong has dropped off that list since his horror show at the weekend. Owen can turn a game. Not sure about Parker and it remains to be seen how Luque and Emre perform. Emre, like alot of the Newcastle team, is already having injury problems.
Not the first bad bit of business either. 8.5 million for Boumsong. Rangers must have been laughing all the way to the bank, they hadn't even paid a penny for him.

I never had Boumsong on my list of quality players. But he is better then the alternative (Robbie Elliott).
Emre has a hamstring injury he picked up playing a friendly for turkey.
I think Souness was wrong to play him on sunday, He only played him because he is under such huge pressure. I don't think we will see Emre for 6 weeks now.

We will see what happens this season

Lemlin

I never had Boumsong on my list of quality players. But he is better then the alternative (Robbie Elliott).
Emre has a hamstring injury he picked up playing a friendly for turkey.
I think Souness was wrong to play him on sunday, He only played him because he is under such huge pressure. I don't think we will see Emre for 6 weeks now.

He was on someone's on the Luque thread at the weekend. Maybe not yours.

Alot of Blackburn players reckon they are much fitter since Souness left. Apparently Hughes has alot better fitness regime in place. This has lead to players like Steven Reid, who was continually injured during Souness' reign, getting a good run out in the team.

I'm not sure if the same thing is happening at Newcastle but the amount of injuries their players are picking up at the minute doesn't bode well.

evilhomer

ziggy67 wrote:

As an aside i heard on the radio that Shearer was at the negotations yesterday. Add that to the fact that Gullit got sacked for dropping him and Robson got sacked when Shearer turned on him it's obvious that he has way too much power for a player at the club.

I think that before too long you will see Shearer as manager. He is taking his coaching badges at the minute. No doubt that Shepard only sees Souness as an interem manager

Corben Dallas

Glad hes gone for Newcastle, (and hes signed for 4 yrs) he wanted Liverpool to come in for him but pool have enough strikers now and he didnt want to go to pool enough to take the wage cut offered.

17m is over the odds for Owen, but he will make a difference in Newcastle. The fact that hes signed for 4yrs means he should just get his head down,score goals,link with Shearer and try to get back into the England squad.....and forget about Liverpool.

If Souness cant turn the team around with this decent signing he'll be gone in the next 2 months.

Chris P Duck

As a Liverpool fan I was completely gutted when I heard the news that owen has agreed to sign for Newcastle. But now I dont think he should get a hostile reception from the Liverpool fans when they play Newcastle. He gave Liverpoolfevery oppurtunity to sign him back but they never did. In my eyes he will score more goals than Crouch and Morientes put together (hopefully i'm wrong)

The rumors are that his contract has a get out clause in it. Newcastle must be in a very bad situation if they are willing to spend £15 million on a player that constantly stated he did not want to go to them but go to Liverpool, and then when his hands were tied and left with the option to sit on the Real Madrid bench or play for Newcastle, give him a get out clause. Surely Newcastle would be better off getting players that want to play for a club.

I just hope Benitez knows what he is doing as he has yet to prove himself in the transfer market other than signing Alonso and Reina. This one could come back to haunt us yet.

The Muppet

I can't believe some of the comments posted here about this move., sour grapes me thinks . Owen is a fantastic signing who will score 20 + per season. Taking into account their other fantastic signings this summer I would not be surprised if they get in the CL this season. Parker is a fantastic player and when evryone is fit they will be a very tought team to take anything from. Have to say I,m happy united got their 3 points before owen arrived. Before their Injuries on SUnday Newcasdtle looked the more likely to score .

On footballing terms I would much rather Owen than Cisse in my team but a I posted last week once Newcastle priced liverpool out of the market and there was no way Benitz could pay over double what he sold Owen for.

ziggy

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Thanx 4 The Fish

So what has changed your mind on him from a couple of weeks ago then Muppet. Because back a couple of weeks, when it looked like he would sign for Liverpool you said he was a very ordinary player, now that He is Newcastle and not liverpool bound, he is a fantastic signing who will score 20+ per season. He must have done alot in the games between now and then to have changed your mind (not too many games IIRC).

I wish MO all the best but I do think that he has just hitched a lift with James Dean.

Pepe LeFrits

Great signing for Newcastle. Newcastle only slightly paid over the odds, they should have been able to get the price down because Owen wasn't a first-teamer at Madrid. For a player of his quality and age though, £17m is a good deal.

I think Newcastle will do well once they get over their slow start. They were good against Arsenal especially considering they had 10 men for most of it. Parker is a superb player, Souness seems to be building the side around him which I think will bring out of him. In his final 6 months at Charlton he was probably the best midfielder (form wise at least) in the premiership. Emre has great quality and will create lots of chances for others, as will Dyer & Luque. Regardless of what has been said here I think Boumsong is a very good defender, he needs better players around him though. And in Given they have the 2nd best keeper in the league.

Despite Souness' dodgy record in dealing with players, he seems to have steadied the ship there too. New contracts signed, Dyer playing on the right without any complaints etc. Jenas is unhappy in Newcastle but I don't think that's his fault.

p.pete

The Muppet wrote:

I can't see liverpool paying 15 million for him just a year after they sold him for approx half that figure. I think he'll stay in Madrid. TBH i dont think he is worth the money they are looking. HE was an excellent player a few years ago but in his last few months at Liverpool he did not set the premeirship alight. I know he had injuries and the contract scenario probably hindered him too but he looked very ordinary that season to me.

To be honest I've calmed down a bit from earlier when I heard Newcastle had him. If it's true that we get over 4mil from the transfer then that's reasonable. He did screw us around last season and undoubtedly has selfish motives to go to Newcastle to save his England career (can't begrudge him that). I wish him luck on tyneside and hopefully it's not at Liverpool's expense.

Chong

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote:

So what has changed your mind on him from a couple of weeks ago then Muppet. Because back a couple of weeks, when it looked like he would sign for Liverpool you said he was a very ordinary player, now that He is Newcastle and not liverpool bound, he is a fantastic signing who will score 20+ per season. He must have done alot in the games between now and then to have changed your mind (not too many games IIRC).

I wish MO all the best but I do think that he has just hitched a lift with James Dean.

I'll have to agree you on the James Dean comment.

Necronomicon

Great signing for Newcastle. With the signings they've made you'd think that their luck has to change soon. But really, the more money Sheperd spends, the more pressure Souness is under to make it worthwhile.
I wonder will his mean a left-wing role for Luque. I assume the preferred partnership would be Owen/Shearer.

evilhomer

As someone said in another thread a couple of weeks back about souness. "He will at least leave a good squad for the next manager".

I think that Souness is not the man to manage the team, his man management/tactics are poor, He would probably make a very good director of football!!

As long as Souness is in charge Newcastle will not reach there full potential. But we are certainly not on the way to disaster as some may think.

We will push for Europe this season with or without Souness as manager (injuries permitting). Only time will tell.

Bateman

There are signs that Emre and Parker are getting some kind of understanding, and that will be important for Newcastle. Their defence will continue to let them down though, Boumsong wasn't the answer, and they sold Andy O Brien before boxing off a replacement for him, which was stupid. Now they've gone and signed two strikers, which doesn't solve the problem either.

Lemlin

Great signing for Newcastle. With the signings they've made you'd think that their luck has to change soon. But really, the more money Sheperd spends, the more pressure Souness is under to make it worthwhile.
I wonder will his mean a left-wing role for Luque. I assume the preferred partnership would be Owen/Shearer.

I think you mean good sale for Madrid. They bought Owen for far less than he was worth, getting rid of the waste of space that is Antonio Nunez in the bargan, held onto him for a season until something better came along and then made 100% profit. Not bad dealing from them.

BaZmO*

p.pete wrote:

and undoubtedly has selfish motives to go to Newcastle to save his England career (can't begrudge him that).

Another one is that his wife is pregnant with their second child and she's wants to have the birth in England.

I think it's good news for both parties. He'll be playing regular football which can only benifit his chances for the World Cup and he will definitely score goals which is something Newcastle are seriously lacking at the moment. However, Souness is just going to do with Newcastle what he done with Liverpool.

B.