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[PR] Dublin Port Tunnel - Publication of Draft Toll Scheme

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,165 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    should be free at night IMO - ie between 2200 and 0600. Not enough traffic to interfere with port business, no point forcing traffic through the suburbs if there is a largely empty motorway tunnel available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    loyatemu wrote:
    should be free at night IMO - ie between 2200 and 0600. Not enough traffic to interfere with port business, no point forcing traffic through the suburbs if there is a largely empty motorway tunnel available.
    A tunnel we taxpayers have paid for. It's sickening that it's being tolled at night. People will die because of this. People will be killed on the streets of Fairview/Marino by a vehicle that could have used the tunnel for it's journey. It's just a matter of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    i thought the trucks were forced to use the tunnel though. Think they get a fine if they dont as far as i know ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    I agree completely that the tunnel should be free at night, especially leaving the city. The northbound toll being the same as the citybound toll seems crazy. Cars entering the tunnel in the city will be on motorway as far as Dundalk, so any chance of congestion on the northbound tunnel is slim. A lower toll (even as much as €3) would suffice.

    A simple monitoring operation could ensure that if there is ever the threat of congestion in that direction then the tunnel could be closed to cars etc. while electronic displays (aren't they all the rage here these days?) would convey that message to people going in the direction of the tunnel, and ensure they have adequate time to take a different route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,523 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I wonder what would happen with boy racer types if it was free (the hazards in a tunnel are materially different to those on a motorway) ....


    /gets pipe and slippers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,165 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    very easy to set up a speed monitoring system - plate recognition cameras at either end, time how long it take to get from one end to the other.

    The toll is there to deter cars from using the tunnel, not to prevent boyracers from drag racing through it - there are laws that are supposed to prevent that...

    is there some way of making a submission on this toll scheme?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 3,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭LFCFan


    Is there any chance that the toll could be electronic from the start or are we going to see yet another example of ineptitude from the Government. They have a chance to learn from the mistakes of the West Link and put a better system in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭D'Peoples Voice


    LFCFan wrote:
    Is there any chance that the toll could be electronic from the start or are we going to see yet another example of ineptitude from the Government.
    you're winding me up, don't say the government are having a part to play in this tunnel.
    I assumed that because it was the idea of Dublin City Council, and because they have had the responsibility of getting the bloody thing built, that it would be Dublin City Council to decide the operation of the tunnel. The only role for Government was to give city council money. Now you are saying the government will have a say on how it operates, why don't we just disband Dublin City Council? :mad:
    It should have NOTHING to do with Government, yes they gave the money to have it built, but like the sewarage system in ringsend, thats as far as their responsibility goes!!!!!!!!!!! Although I wouldn't put it past a TD to turn up for the photoshoot at the opening!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 3,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭LFCFan


    you're winding me up, don't say the government are having a part to play in this tunnel.
    I assumed that because it was the idea of Dublin City Council, and because they have had the responsibility of getting the bloody thing built, that it would be Dublin City Council to decide the operation of the tunnel. The only role for Government was to give city council money. Now you are saying the government will have a say on how it operates, why don't we just disband Dublin City Council? :mad:
    It should have NOTHING to do with Government, yes they gave the money to have it built, but like the sewarage system in ringsend, thats as far as their responsibility goes!!!!!!!!!!! Although I wouldn't put it past a TD to turn up for the photoshoot at the opening!
    When I say Government that includes local government, i.e DCC. They're all civil servants and all as useless as each other!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    Although I wouldn't put it past a TD to turn up for the photoshoot at the opening!

    The name is Cullen ... Martin Cullen. Unless Bertie shuffles this muppet out of the job beforehand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    DubTony wrote:
    The name is Cullen ... Martin Cullen. Unless Bertie shuffles this muppet out of the job beforehand.
    Ah the cleverest of them all himself will probably show up for the ribbon cutting on this one. It's in (under :D ) his constituency is it not?


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