Faith v's Sci ?(Black v's wihite)?

Peace

In the interim, the show seems to be going in the direcction of the above...

So... a quick straw poll never killled anyone... did it?

Are you faith, or are you science?

Hyzepher

I have faith in the science of destiny...

Hyzepher

kinda lost

ive been confused about beliving in faith for a long time so i cant decide.

tvnutz

Both? I have Faith...but you dont dismiss science.

But its hardly the same thing for Lost...Locke doesn't have Faith in a religion...he has faith in the island...

As for the black v White thing,I think it applies to FAith v Science,but rather people. Because both Faith and Science have their dark sides and their light sides...i.e. crazy fundamentalist religious nuts (from all religions),and men of science creating "the bomb",basically giving us the ability to destroy all human life within a matter of minutes.

Phat Chance

Who is shaping up to be on which side? Or do we know? Can we speculate here?

tvnutz

Hard to say in relation to the black v white stone thing,is locke a bad guy? or is he the real good guy? jack seems like the good guy but could his denial prove to do more harm than good as the island obviosuly seems to be a character itself. Thats why i love this show...you never really know

herobear

the OP never specified whether or not this was a UK, IRL or US thread so im gonna include thoughts from the whole season, mmmk(so including spoiler tags for everything i write)

first off my general thoughts on topic:

so the whole seaon has led upto faith vs. science, white vs. black etc...
with both John & Jack leading opposing sides, i dont know if its really gonna lead anywhere, but at the moment evidence is definitely suggesting that.

John Locke & Jack Sheppard

i think whats most interesting about these guys is how at first they seem almost polar opposites but slowly you get evidence how similiar they are(no matter how subtle), they're both strong willed and manipulative, and even though Jack is generally a person who thinks with his head, he wears his heart on his sleeve while John is a man of faith, but keeps himself guarded, and doesnt open up to strangers easily.
John likes the idea of being a mentor, and manipulating people into trusting him(at first Walt, then Charlie and finally Boone), he has a deep sense of trust in the island, and is most dangerous for me personally in this aspect, we've already seen how the island can manipulate him(what with regaining the use of his legs and his obsession with the hatch) and which has tragic consequences in 'Deus ex Machina' with Boone, and yet that episode is his finest so far because he finally sees the island for what it truly is, is felt betrayed by the island, but is finally rewarded somewhat for all his hard work, from a WHITE light protruding from the hatch, re-energising his faith.
neither Jack nor John are good or bad, they're just very similiar human beings on opposite sides of the spectrum(i'll write more about Jack another time)

in terms of groupings(upto season 1 finale but excluding season 2 characters)

Locke
Charlie

charlie
Claire[/spoiler

Sayid
Shannon

Jin
Sun
Michael

Jack
Kate
Sawyer

Hurley

so....

Locke
Charlie
Claire
Sayid

Jack
Kate
Sawyer

fringe:
Hurley(poor guy is on his own but currently deviating to Jacks group i think)
Michael
Jin
Sun
Shannon

tvnutz

good stuff herobear...interesting

Phat Chance

I have a feeling Sun and Jin may end up on opposite sides, to sort of reinforce the idea that 'The Island' can really mess things up.

Chong

I am really starting to like locke he is so mysterious.

phileeoonskee

This post referes to Exodus 2 of 3 when Jack and Locke are removing the sticks of dynamite from the crate(after Arnzt goes Bye-Bye) . Their converstation about opperation symbolises a middle ground. Locke's toys and Jack's medcine.
Black and wite merging. Could this mean that there is hope for union between the two philophies on the island?

Orange Elephant

Who cares. Its up to the writers, not you.

tvnutz

Orange Elephant wrote:

Who cares. Its up to the writers, not you.

*cough*...troll

Thumper Long

generally im a man of science but when it comes to lost id have to say man of faith, locke is a class act

phileeoonskee

Orange Elephant wrote:

Who cares. Its up to the writers, not you.

Who cares? Well I do! And did i say it was up to me? No! I was just trying to be all cool and insightful. But seriously i find your point very valad because i don't want any enimies on this forum.

Orange Elephant

phileeoonskee wrote:

Who cares? Well I do! And did i say it was up to me? No! I was just trying to be all cool and insightful. But seriously i find your point very valad because i don't want any enimies on this forum.

Much appreciated. Dont want any enemies either, just want everyone to realize how ridiculous the whole signature thing is.

tvnutz

Orange Elephant wrote:

Much appreciated. Dont want any enemies either, just want everyone to realize how ridiculous the whole signature thing is.

To you,maybe,what would be your opinion. Like I said,bit of a laugh,if you don't have anything productive to add,sod off

Sleepy

Just wanted to point out that a lot of the sigs are getting a bit silly in size. Remember that there are sig guidelines and you could lose your sig pic if Cloud runs his sigbot...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60479

Catsmokinpot

i am faith definitely with a small splattering of science, but i thought science was black and white? isnt faith the grey area.