Log Cabin

Victor

shortys94 wrote:

100,000 for house (transport inc, labour inc etc) and i think that includes hardcore and base for house etc(done by local contractor)

Ah, yes. Cheap on the blood of injured and killed workers.

Realise that you could go to jail for this.

Lex Luthor

kadman wrote:

I suppose the health and safety executive would be interested in your innovative approach to scaffold,

YOU CHEAPSKATE:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

kadman:p

ya, I wouldn't be advertising the pic with the guy on the roof without the scaffold or being at least tied off....

squire1

I can't believe there are actually guys out there that are willing to work in those kind of conditions anymore.

A disgrace really, considering it gives genuine contractors a bad name.

I'm not convinced €100,000 is "cheap" considering the apparent small living space. You can probably only use the balcony and decking one or two months a year. What sq Ft is the living space?

shortys94

mmmmm, sorry but these guys are being paid about 10000 for this job, or 8000, and the pic u saw is not the conditions they were in all the time, that was just laying down the first section so they could put down proper scaffolding, sorry should of taken a later pic:)

its 60 sq mt i think, its for only 1 person!!!!!!! and the insulations great, we went for this size and its one person:):)

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

mmmmm, sorry but these guys are being paid about 10000 for this job, or 8000, and the pic u saw is not the conditions they were in all the time, that was just laying down the first section so they could put down proper scaffolding, sorry should of taken a later pic:)

its 60 sq mt i think, its for only 1 person!!!!!!! and the insulations great, we went for this size and its one person:):)

just make sure they keep within the guidelines for site safety...you are liable & responsible for it seeing as its your build.

p.s. the house looks great on the website. Best of luck with it. I'm still having contractual issues with my builder over one clause he put in that I'm trying to get removed before I sign.

shortys94

yea, actually the size is a bit more with the veranda/deck included, i think its over 60 not sure well around 60 sq metres

they do these jobs all the time and build grip holds on the roof for there boots and so on, they put safety first, thats what they do before finishing up in a night for prepapration for the next

kadman

shortys94 wrote:

mmmmm, sorry but these guys are being paid about 10000 for this job, or 8000, and the pic u saw is not the conditions they were in all the time, QUOTE]

No, its just the conditions they were working in, before they fell and broke their leg, and sued your arse off for not supplying safe conditions to work in.
Your public liability insurance will tell you to p...s of because you failed to provide necessary safe conditions of work as required by legislation. The injured worker will then sue you in civil suit because of his injuries, because you have no valid insurance cover. He will then own your house , your barn, your dogs , and your horses...;)

All for the sake of a bit of scaffold.

kadman

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

100,000 for house (transport inc, labour inc etc) and i think that includes hardcore and base for house etc(done by local contractor)

its very cheap, and sorry i dont know the actual costs as its my dad who is organising it. There supposedly great for heat too, right now theyre outside doing the other side of the roof, i will upload another pic when finished roof is done

What do you get for your €100k?

Kitchen?
Electric supply...how is that being provided?
Sewage?
Plumbing?
Do you have to fit out the bathroom and kitchen extra?
What about finish inside?
Just curious as I'd like to compare like for like with the place in Cavan for what I'm getting for 180k.

shortys94

100K
House, hardcore, cement, plumbing for toilets etc, labour.
And then extra

but if you consider that the delivery of this house took a few days, and it will be built in a week or two more, then i think thats great, as its so quick, and the heat and structure is great.

This includes balcny, and decking too, and believe me theres a lot of decking

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

100K
House, hardcore, cement, plumbing for toilets etc, labour.
And then extra

but if you consider that the delivery of this house took a few days, and it will be built in a week or two more, then i think thats great, as its so quick, and the heat and structure is great.

This includes balcny, and decking too, and believe me theres a lot of decking

so do you have to fit out the kitchen, bathrooms on top of the 100k?

It does seem to be on the expensive side then. The one I'm going for has a total rebuild cost, including foundation, fully fitted kitchen, heating system, alarm, electrics, water, sewage, fireproofing on the walls & floor (basically Turnkey). fully fitted bathroom, 78m2 internal with 35m2 external decking for about 88k.

All these cabins will take only a few weeks to build anyway.

shortys94

i suppose, but then again mine is finnish pine:):) and it comes with custom made windows,(very large winodws) and dorrs lots of glass, and sewage inc

shortys94

has anyone here painted there log cabin, i mean what preservative did you use before painting, were using cuprinol stain, its supposed to be very good

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

has anyone here painted there log cabin, i mean what preservative did you use before painting, were using cuprinol stain, its supposed to be very good

is it just an off the shelf stuff you're using?

I asked the log cabin supplier what they recommended and he gave me a name but I've forgotten what its called, but I never heard of it before.

Victor

shortys94 wrote:

has anyone here painted there log cabin, i mean what preservative did you use before painting, were using cuprinol stain, its supposed to be very good

You mean they aren't even painting it?

shortys94

no because, they give u all the supplies u need to paint it, but if we want we can ask them to paint it, but were not sure what colour we want yet, so we just let them get on with their work

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

no because, they give u all the supplies u need to paint it, but if we want we can ask them to paint it, but were not sure what colour we want yet, so we just let them get on with their work

So would they charge you extra if you ask them to paint it for you?

What about inside? Do they stain that for you? Is there any fire proofing?

If I was you, I'd stick to clear colours on the outside. Thats what I'm going to do.

I'd google a bit before you decide...I've done a bit of looking but not got all the info I need as yet.

CJhaughey

Best oil/stain for wood is Chinese Tung Oil mixed with Linseed oil as a carrier.
Was the oil mentioned Jupex 45/90?
All these oils can be stained with an oil based pigment to whatever colour you choose.

Lex Luthor

CJhaughey wrote:

Best oil/stain for wood is Chinese Tung Oil mixed with Linseed oil as a carrier.
Was the oil mentioned Jupex 45/90?
All these oils can be stained with an oil based pigment to whatever colour you choose.

doesn't ring a bell but I'll bear it in mind, however mine is coming already treated so I will be asking them what they used and trying to stick with that if its any good

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

100,000 for house (transport inc, labour inc etc) and i think that includes hardcore and base for house etc(done by local contractor)

its very cheap, and sorry i dont know the actual costs as its my dad who is organising it. There supposedly great for heat too, right now theyre outside doing the other side of the roof, i will upload another pic when finished roof is done

Just on a side note, did you not consider traditional build?

My sister got her house built by this crowd, ok they are in Cork, but you get enough of a house for granny for less than 100k
http://www.mcdonnellhomes.com/price.htm

shortys94

yea they will tsian it if i want , not for extra charge, but anyway, yea were staining it too, a nice coloour, done a lot of resaearch, and these houses are made of quality pine, they even give you a 10 year gurantee on the wood and thats even if you dont put on the preservative

shortys94

back of cabin

Lex Luthor

Shorty, its looking good now...big house for granny though.

Do you get any sort of structural guarantee with it from the suppliers?

Are you planning to get a surveyor in to snag the property for you before you pay for it? If so, could you let me know where you got them from cos I imagine I'll need one in April.

shortys94

lex sorry but i miscalculated price by alot, you see my fathers organising it so hes financial know it all,
Anyway its wasnt 100,000

IT WAS ONLY 48000 BASE PRICE FOR HOUSE AND 9 000 LABOUR:):)
Interior has to be finished though, so a bit to go, reason is that because guys we were getting to do it had another job in finald, but hey its a good price, around 50 000 for finished structure and labour, not inc anything else:)

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

lex sorry but i miscalculated price by alot, you see my fathers organising it so hes financial know it all,
Anyway its wasnt 100,000

IT WAS ONLY 48000 BASE PRICE FOR HOUSE AND 9 000 LABOUR:):)
Interior has to be finished though, so a bit to go, reason is that because guys we were getting to do it had another job in finald, but hey its a good price, around 50 000 for finished structure and labour, not inc anything else:)

Shorty, that sounds more like it....cabin I'm gettin base price is €35,000, but then you add in insulation, plumbing, electrics, fittings, kitchen, appliances, etc, etc,etc. All in all its valued at €85k'ish turnkey. All that it needs is beds, curtains and table & chairs.

shortys94

yea lex our price is around the same as yours, there good value, you could build a mansion for less than half the price of a stone house considering that includes transport

Spfeno1

Hi lads,

I've put a deposit down on one of these babies www.duskview.com and just looking for advice/pointers

1. Has anyone heard of the Finnish company Kontio
2. Can anyone give me any advice on what to watch out for

Many thanks

Lex Luthor

Spfeno1 wrote:

Hi lads,

I've put a deposit down on one of these babies www.duskview.com and just looking for advice/pointers

1. Has anyone heard of the Finnish company Kontio
2. Can anyone give me any advice on what to watch out for

Many thanks

Nice house. What advice you lookin for?

What kind of price are they? What do they include in that price?

Only advice I would give you from what I've seen in the pictures is don't go for that hideous blue kitchen....:eek:

Spfeno1

Lex Luthor wrote:

Nice house. What advice you lookin for?

What kind of price are they? What do they include in that price?

Only advice I would give you from what I've seen in the pictures is don't go for that hideous blue kitchen....:eek:

Lex,

Advices -
What are the life spans of such a property ?
Would projected capital appreciation be the same as an 'regular' block built/timber frame house ?
In a number of the finished houses, some of the interior logs have started to split - I understand wood is always 'alive' but should this happen ?

Exterior maintenance will be understandably a pain in the ar** every two or three years but I still think its worth it

Its a small development (30 or so units) but planning has been granted for a a second phase. There's also planning granted for a 42 berth marina on the development. It's about a sandwedge from the Woodford River/Canal system which links the Shannon to the Erne system, so its navigable South to Killaloe and North to Fermanagh's lake system.

Starting Price - €220K, which includes all kitchen white goods, fitted kitchen (choice of colours), all tiling, jacuzzi bath and electric showers. It gets dearer (up to €260K) for a waterside house - even though most houses are just a stones throw fro the water anyway

Just fell for the whole lot when I saw it first !

Lex Luthor

Spfeno1 wrote:

Lex,

Advices -
What are the life spans of such a property ?
If you take care of it, I'm guessing 75 years (stand to be corrected)

Would projected capital appreciation be the same as an 'regular' block built/timber frame house ?
Pick a number out of your head...I know someone who bought one in Belturbet a few years back and sold it 2-3 yrs later for €75k profit

In a number of the finished houses, some of the interior logs have started to split - I understand wood is always 'alive' but should this happen ?
How big are the splits? Its called character;)

Exterior maintenance will be understandably a pain in the ar** every two or three years but I still think its worth it DEFINITELY

Its a small development (30 or so units) but planning has been granted for a a second phase. There's also planning granted for a 42 berth marina on the development. It's about a sandwedge from the Woodford River/Canal system which links the Shannon to the Erne system, so its navigable South to Killaloe and North to Fermanagh's lake system.

Starting Price - €220K, which includes all kitchen white goods, fitted kitchen (choice of colours), all tiling, jacuzzi bath and electric showers. It gets dearer (up to €260K) for a waterside house - even though most houses are just a stones throw fro the water anyway Doesn't sound too bad. How close are the houses together? The reason I went for the one in Shercock is the lake next to the development is a fully stocked lake, so I don't have to get in a boat and navigate down stream to do some fishin.

Just fell for the whole lot when I saw it first !
Have you looked at the cabins up at Annaghieran Lodge? Still some available

..

Lex Luthor

So back to the question about snagging a log cabin. Is it for a specialist snagger or can any snagger do one?
I've already been turned down by one reputable company for snagging it as they felt they didn't have the necessary experience.

shortys94

i can highly recommend the finnish pine log cabins, we have just one built, its very tasteful and theres a 10 year guarantee on any cracks or anything which causes concern in the wood.

only problem for us was that finnish builders had to leave early, so they only finished structure, with windows and doors, no interior wall panels, floor panels or ceiling panels.

We were going to wait for them to return but we just got irish people to finish the job, we know them, and there doing a very good job.

100,000 for everything. And the building looks very similar to the log cabin on the duskview homepage

Lex Luthor

shortys94 wrote:

i can highly recommend the finnish pine log cabins, we have just one built, its very tasteful and theres a 10 year guarantee on any cracks or anything which causes concern in the wood.

only problem for us was that finnish builders had to leave early, so they only finished structure, with windows and doors, no interior wall panels, floor panels or ceiling panels.

We were going to wait for them to return but we just got irish people to finish the job, we know them, and there doing a very good job.

100,000 for everything. And the building looks very similar to the log cabin on the duskview homepage

Shorty, I'm buying mine in a small development so I have to take the one thats on offer....there is a 10yr guarantee also with this, but as with any house, I'll need to get a snag done.

shortys94

good luck with that lex

shortys94

Since our Finnish guys never inished job, we had a few leaks on on windows as silicon was never used to seal up windows. But we have sealed since, just a warning to anyone in case they havent seal wood surrounds on windows

YAPP

Good luck with the new log cabin,

Get an engineer from a similar company to do your snagging.
they will know exactly what to look for...

Beware of rogue builders in cavan!

S

garyh3

Hi Lex, did you buy the cabin. in Cavan. We had a look at the cabins over the w/e. There seem to be a lot left only 5 sold out of the 14 (all the 185,000 gone) 200,000 -300,000 rage still available

The lake is nice but a little small and the sales kid (and he was a kid) didn’t seem to know much about the buildings or what the pier at the bottom was going to be or the fishing. I also though they were a little close together with little privacy if you get the hot tub.

The inside of the show house was nice, but both my wife and I came away a little disappointed....

I’m still at a crossroads as to what to do buy something in Cavan or my wife’s uncle can get us some land in Kerry (70k) near a lake and put a cabin there.

What are the pit falls of putting a cabin on some land...

Planning permission
ESB
water
waste etc

If I go for a similar build of 3 bedrooms cabin AND I can get the land for 70K + tax’s would this be a viable solution.

Any advice appreciated

Garyh3

Lex Luthor

garyh3 wrote:

Hi Lex, did you buy the cabin. in Cavan. We had a look at the cabins over the w/e. There seem to be a lot left only 5 sold out of the 14 (all the 185,000 gone) 200,000 -300,000 rage still available

The lake is nice but a little small and the sales kid (and he was a kid) didn’t seem to know much about the buildings or what the pier at the bottom was going to be or the fishing. I also though they were a little close together with little privacy if you get the hot tub.

The inside of the show house was nice, but both my wife and I came away a little disappointed....

I’m still at a crossroads as to what to do buy something in Cavan or my wife’s uncle can get us some land in Kerry (70k) near a lake and put a cabin there.

What are the pit falls of putting a cabin on some land...

Planning permission
ESB
water
waste etc

If I go for a similar build of 3 bedrooms cabin AND I can get the land for 70K + tax’s would this be a viable solution.

Any advice appreciated

Garyh3

Gary, I'm still waiting on the completion of mine. Last time I was up there about 4 weeks ago the roof had just gone on and they still had to do all the plumbing, flooring, kitchen, bathroom etc. Did you get a look at the 2 cabins just up from the showhouse. Mine is going to be the one that is #18, the showhouse is #21, I think. Did you see how far advance they were?
With the builders being on holiday for the last 2 weeks, I was waiting until they got back a few days to chase them up to see how close we are to snagging.

I see your point that they are a little close together but to get ones with a little more space you'd be talking another 100k. I was first to get my name down so we got one of the 180k ones.

I'm not too surprised about only 5 being sold. They are doing very little to promote them only one ad on myhome.ie. Plus, the place looks like a building site and I'm not sure some people can see beyond that. They have also priced them odd. I can see why some are maybe 5-10k more than others, but 100-150k more than others for the same house, its ridiculous.

The jetty down front is for boats and you get full access to the lake if you are a resident. For the size, its adequate for me & the family for weekends. By the look of it though it will be a while.

I didn't bother with the hot tub...11k was a bit steep. We're hoping to be taking ownership before end of Aug but you never know. Originally it was supposed to be March this year, so they are a little slow.

As for your idea of putting one in Kerry. Great idea if you can get the land. Those cabins fully finished with the kitchen/bathroom/appliances, etc but no furtniture would cost about 80k.

I'll keep ya posted.

garyh3

Hi Lex,

Your number 18,

So 21 was the 300k (show house which is very steep price although you get the lake view. Then there was a space for 20 (not built) then 19 and then 18. I think yours was finished as they were putting a roof on 17 I think or was that 18 anyhow they were working on both 17 & 18 and they looked complete. Didnt see inside as my 2 year old wanted to go down and see the water. No tarmac down yet so the road is a bit rough and its still a building site.

The sales guy said that they were building to order so none of the cabins were built on the right hand side. And the cabins down below were not priced yet. So even if you get the keys it gonna be a building site for atleast another 6 - 8 months I recon.

Im in Navan so its just about 1 hr drive to the Lake (NOW that I know where it is not much in sign posts)

I think Ill wait to see what by wife's uncle can come up with. If I can get the 1 ac land in Kerry for the 70k then I will def do that option.

regards

Garyh3

Lex Luthor

garyh3 wrote:

Hi Lex,

Your number 18,

So 21 was the 300k (show house which is very steep price although you get the lake view. Then there was a space for 20 (not built) then 19 and then 18. I think yours was finished as they were putting a roof on 17 I think or was that 18 anyhow they were working on both 17 & 18 and they looked complete. Didnt see inside as my 2 year old wanted to go down and see the water. No tarmac down yet so the road is a bit rough and its still a building site.

The sales guy said that they were building to order so none of the cabins were built on the right hand side. And the cabins down below were not priced yet. So even if you get the keys it gonna be a building site for atleast another 6 - 8 months I recon.

Im in Navan so its just about 1 hr drive to the Lake (NOW that I know where it is not much in sign posts)

I think Ill wait to see what by wife's uncle can come up with. If I can get the 1 ac land in Kerry for the 70k then I will def do that option.

regards

Garyh3

Gary, 18 & 19 are the first 2 to be built. The roofs were on both of them last time I was there, or just about. They told me they plan to do 2 at a time.
17, 18 & 19 are the 3x180k units.
Looks like they got a small bit of sense and dropped the price of the showhouse by 50k...they were looking for 350k a year ago for it.
Last time I was there, I was told that 3 were sold on the row of the showhouse and 2 at the row of the trees.
The bottom 5 will probably only go to PP when all 12 top units are sold.

I'm well aware that it will be a site for a while which is a shame, but at least I won't be there permanently listening to the estonian music the carpenters blast out all day.

Lex Luthor

Finally, got my call yesterday that its ready for snagging....should try to get it done by end of week...will let you know how its going

garyh3

Hi Lex

Take a few pic's if you can

Good luck with the snagging

Garyh3

Lex Luthor

House wasn't finished to my satisfaction this morning so I cancelled the snagging at the last minute. Assured by next Saturday that it will all be done. Wasn't much left to be done. Finish tiling in bathroom, install shower enclosure, install wc, install white goods and fit kitchen doors to them & other units. Clean up inside and varnish floor. Outside work still to be done but they have told me a big crew are coming in this week to do the road, driveways, back garden, etc. They have sold 10 now. Only 2 remaining on top level are the front expensive ones, which will be hard to shift unless they drop the price a bit, but at the moment, the last one sold was 230k, so I'm doing ok since mine was the first off the plan at 180k.

I took a few pics today but not much in them...I'll bring a proper camera next week and take some internal & external shots of the grounds.

oscarholly

Hi guys,

I have been following yere exchanges in the last few weeks

I am thinking of following the same path

Could you please forward me some photos of the log cabin

Regards Oscarholly:)

Lex Luthor

oscarholly wrote:

Hi guys,

I have been following yere exchanges in the last few weeks

I am thinking of following the same path

Could you please forward me some photos of the log cabin

Regards Oscarholly:)

Oscar, here is the link to the website that shows the development that I'm buying from

http://www3.myhome.ie/search/development.asp?id=15362&p=7

garyh3

Hi Lex

So 21 still left which is the show house was priced at 300k and No 15 still be to built opposite 21 and priced at 250k both with views of the lake.

22 -26 still to be priced

Wow they sold quick when I went up about 3 weeks ago there were only 5 sold.

Good luck again with the snagging

Garyh3

bauderline

And..... That's a hat trick !

I guess you own the company then, personally I won't do business with someone who is too tight to pay for advertising... doesn't bode well for future business dealings.... does it.....

good bye and good luck !

leemonahan17

Hi gang I am buying a log cabbin and i am just looking for a place to my log cabbin on to a site and hopefully to live in it long term would anyone know who would rent a site ? or know where to start thanks

leemonahan17

Hi gang I am buying a log cabbin and i am just looking for a place to put my log cabbin on to a site and hopefully to live in it long term would anyone know who would rent a site ? or know where to start thanks