Middlesbrough vs Arsenal

Cutie18Ireland · 10-09-2005 6:29pm #1

1-0 to boro. Yakubu scored after 40 mins. C'mon Boro!!

Cutie18Ireland · 10-09-2005 6:38pm

2-0!! Maccarone in 59th minute! this result is taking away the disappointment of united drawing with City!

mike65 · 10-09-2005 6:39pm

2-0 rofl.

Mike.

Pepe LeFrits · 10-09-2005 6:41pm

Abel Xavier is a clown.

Chong · 10-09-2005 6:54pm

Lol OMG , there is a god after all.

Cutie18Ireland · 10-09-2005 7:13pm

2-1 at full time! reyes scored in the 90th minute.

galwaydude · 10-09-2005 7:24pm

what happened arsenal, they badly missed henry?

Brian017 · 10-09-2005 7:26pm

2 losses already for Arsenal :eek: The way the last two seasons have gone that's them out of the title race and it's only September.

galwaydude · 10-09-2005 7:29pm

they look toothless without henry. Im sure they will be back though.My team had a boring 0:0 against spurs, same old story

scojones · 10-09-2005 7:33pm

Arsenal never play without Henry. I wouldn't say they are a one man team because they are far from it, they have great players, but they don't know how to change their game when Henry is not there. If Arsenal want to make a serious challenge for the title this season, they had better hope that Henry doesn't get seriously injuried.

Mossy Monk · 10-09-2005 7:45pm

WTF happened there. Arsenal should have been 3-0 up after 20 minutes. and if only Cole caught that shot at the end perfectly then we might have gotten a draw. as for Cygan and the 2nd goal :mad: but Reyes scored a nice one

Chelsea will win the title this season again i think

Gangsta · 10-09-2005 7:50pm

Apart from the first 20mins we were very average and always looking for the perfect goal (which isn't possible without henry

). We badly need a plan B, teams know how to beat us now and it's very evident as boro are an ordinary side.

Pepe LeFrits · 10-09-2005 8:33pm

Reyes was awesome, Cole played well, as did Lehmann (no chance for either goal, made one stunning save). The rest should be ashamed of themselves. Keeping Bergkamp on for the entire 90 because he was captain was ****ing stupid, he was truly dreadful today. The sooner Bergkamp and Pires are permanently out of the starting 11 the better.

Arsenal's first team should be:
Lehmann, Cole, Toure, Campbell, Lauren, Reyes, Gilberto, Fabregas/Hleb, Ljungberg, Henry, Van Persie.

Gangsta · 10-09-2005 9:18pm

Ah Reyes was fantastic but Pires and Bergkamp still have it. We just need a leader- I thought Cole should have been made captain. I know the whole chelsea stuff but it's better in the longrun, henry is not a leader.

Lemlin · 10-09-2005 9:26pm

Arsenal have too many average players like Senderos and Cygan. I think that, with the loss of Vieira and players like Bergkamp getting older, this is the weakest squad Arsenal have had in a while.

They need someone to partner Henry that can take on the burden of scoring when he's not available.

Pepe LeFrits · 10-09-2005 10:48pm

Gangsta wrote:

Ah Reyes was fantastic but Pires and Bergkamp still have it. We just need a leader- I thought Cole should have been made captain. I know the whole chelsea stuff but it's better in the longrun, henry is not a leader.

Cole as captain? I'd rather the team was captainless.

And Senderos is one of the best young defenders in world football.

randomfella · 10-09-2005 10:57pm

Lemlin wrote:

I think that, with the loss of Vieira and players like Bergkamp getting older, this is the weakest squad Arsenal have had in a while.

i agree.

just as i thought. Chelsea are likely to win the league. This premiership is becoming so predictable. United and Arsenal can't put it up to Chelsea but if anyone could, it'd be United. Loosing Vieira was crucial.

Lemlin · 11-09-2005 9:51am

United haven't the strength in depth either. Just look at today. Ferguson rests Keane and Giggs, United draw. Jose rests Drogba, Duff and Makele, Chelsea still win.

Chelsea have the strength in depth to rest players that the other teams don't have.

Gangsta · 11-09-2005 11:49am

Lemlin wrote:

United haven't the strength in depth either. Just look at today. Ferguson rests Keane and Giggs, United draw. Jose rests Drogba, Duff and Makele, Chelsea still win.

Chelsea have the strength in depth to rest players that the other teams don't have.

Not everyone can afford £50million worth of subs like chelsea.

Jonny Arson · 11-09-2005 12:17pm

randomfella wrote:

Loosing Vieira was crucial.

Loosing Vieira is one thing but failing to replace him is catastrophic.

PHB · 11-09-2005 1:36pm

2 losses already for Arsenal The way the last two seasons have gone that's them out of the title race and it's only September.

Can you imagine how stupid that comment sounds to everyone else?
Like seriously.
They lost to Chelsea, omfg they are ****e.
They lost to Middlesborough at home, without em the best player in the entire world(tm) Henry.
And they are out of the title race?

Have you seen an entire season before?
Weren't Arsenal ahead at this time last year?
Oh wait, they were.
Did they win? No no they didn't.
Shush

United haven't the strength in depth either. Just look at today. Ferguson rests Keane and Giggs, United draw. Jose rests Drogba, Duff and Makele, Chelsea still win.

You really demonstrate you knowledge of Man Utd by saying that he rested Giggs.
The mighty last place Sunderland, compared to 3rd place Man City on the best run of their lives.
Cry me a river.
How do Chelsea normally do against Man City btw?

Roddy23 · 11-09-2005 8:20pm

Seriously what has van Persie to do to get a starting spot. Every time he comes on Arsenal look like scoring. Playing Bergkamp from the start I cant comprehend, true hes a legend, and is one of my favourite players, but he cant last 90mins, and to keep him on as long as yesterday I cant understand.

Also what the hell is the point of playin Cygan, hes like Gary Breen, every time hes on the starting sheet ye just fear the worst. He reminds me of another cracking defender, Stepanovs. Hopefully Campbell will be back ASAP, and vanPersie starts on Wednesday.
And we sign a tough tackling midfielder in the January market.

pickarooney · 11-09-2005 8:50pm

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

Loosing Vieira is one thing but failing to replace him is catastrophic.

Yeah, and the boy done good for the Old Lady today in their 4-0 thrashing of Empoli

Roddy23 · 11-09-2005 9:11pm

theyve some team Juventus, seen them against Barca at the nou Camp.
Have a few pics of the game, but jaysus Id say PV4, is delighted he left.

Gangsta · 11-09-2005 10:52pm

Roddy23 wrote:

theyve some team Juventus, seen them against Barca at the nou Camp.
Have a few pics of the game, but jaysus Id say PV4, is delighted he left.

He's wanted to leave for years.

astrofool · 12-09-2005 6:09am

i'd say they're a bit concerned at Van Persie's temperament atm, as he matures, he'll start getting 90 mins all the time, atm he is probably too much of a sending off liability to start the matches, esp. as he can slot in to replace bergkamp when he gets tired toward the end.

Also, Arsenal may look like scoring when he comes on because the opposition are tired, and he's a fresh pair of very skilled legs. He might not have the same impact if on from the start.

elbow316 · 12-09-2005 11:00am

but jaysus Id say PV4, is delighted he left.

Vieira did NOT want to leave Arsenal this season and was shocked that Arsenal were willing to let him go. Apoligies if that rains on your anti-Arsenal parade.

I still reckon we'll finish ahead of United but of course, we'll need Chelski to suffer some problems if we're going to regain our title.

Pepe LeFrits · 12-09-2005 1:19pm

elbow316 wrote:

Vieira did NOT want to leave Arsenal this season and was shocked that Arsenal were willing to let him go. Apoligies if that rains on your anti-Arsenal parade.

I don't believe that for a second.

Wenger's persistence with Bergkamp and Pires is becoming very frustrating, his loyalty to those two in particular reminds me of Sven. They have been really poor most of the time for a year now, but still get loads of chances, while the likes of Van Persie and Quincy have been outstanding in their small cameos but cannot get decent game time for love nor money.

Roddy23 · 12-09-2005 1:48pm

Apoligies if that rains on your anti-Arsenal parade.

Elbow, are ye alright there. I support Arsenal and have done since i was a young fella. If you look at what I said you'll see that at no time did I say Vieira wanted to leave, but with the situation that Arsenal find themselves in and the way Juventus are playing at the moment, I would say he is delighted he left now.
Juventus surely have a better chance of winning the Champions League this season (just by comparing squads), and this is the one trophy that Vieira is dying to get his hands on.
In order for Arsenal to have a decent crack at the League or the Champions League I seriously think we need to invest in January, especially when ye see what a joke of a replacement Cygan is.
On another note I'm happy with our left and right back places. Cole has serious competition from Clichy and, Likewise for Lauren who has Eboue, whom I was very impressed with in the pre season games.

Gangsta · 12-09-2005 4:10pm

Eboue is looking fantastic. I saw him play against France and was causing problems to their left hand side. Roddy I think you're right about Paddy. Also we do need to invest in the squad; a cb replacement, a tough tackling midfielder (why didn't we sign Jenas!?) and a striker in the mould of shearer.

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