Calzaghe/Kahn (Results)

Geiger

Both fighters were successful tonight. Kahn looked great winning a unamimous decision. He pretty much landed at will though didn't achieve any knockdowns. The ref gave him all four rounds. Both fighters showed a lot of respect at the end.

Calzaghe also won a unanimous decision. Two judges had it 120-108 and the other had it 120-107. Joe injured his left hand in the fourth round and couldn't use it much from then on. He had been looking on course for a stoppage/KO up until then. After the fight Frank Warren said the November fight with Lacy will definitely have to be rescheduled, probably for next year. Disappointing stuff.

Cutie18Ireland

Only watched the calzaghe match. He was very impressive in the first few rounds! I feelreally sorry for him losing out on yet another big fight in November! One hand and he still beat his oppenent in each round, i was impressed not to mention laughin that this guy couldnt hurt Joe using only one hand..

akindoc

Cutie18Ireland wrote:

Only watched the calzaghe match. He was very impressive in the first few rounds! I feelreally sorry for him losing out on yet another big fight in November! One hand and he still beat his oppenent in each round, i was impressed not to mention laughin that this guy couldnt hurt Joe using only one hand..

You don't seem to know much about boxing.

akindoc

http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=17349

By Ant Evans: IBF super-middleweight champion Jeff Lacy's promoter Gary Shaw didn't waste a microsecond in launching a savage attack on Joe Calzaghe following the WBO title-holder's withdrawal from a pencilled-in November 5 unification fight in London, England.

Calzaghe beat Evans Ashira in Cardiff, Wales, on an enormously wide points decision but fought the last eight rounds with only his southpaw right arm. Calzaghe, now unbeaten in 40 fights, said he was in agony from the third round on after connecting with an uppercut.

But Shaw plain doesn't buy it, saying that Calzaghe and his promoter Frank Warren are running scared from Lacy.

Speaking to SecondsOut, the American promoter spat: "Joe Calzaghe is a disgrace. I don't believe this injury is legit. He never, ever wanted to fight Jeff Lacy. There are some fighters who are willing to fight anyone, anytime - and there are fighters who just don't fit in that warrior category. Joe Calzaghe is one of the later. I just think this is criminal."

Lacy himself added: "I suspected all along that Calzaghe didn't want any of this. I kinda prepared myself for it but it is still disappointing."

And Shaw raged on: "I said all along that they'd get an injury excuse come September 11. That's why Calzaghe - in interviews - was saying the Lacy fight may not happen while Jeff and I were doing everything possible to make this fight happen. We agreed to come to the UK to fight, but still Joe Calzaghe pulls this.

"I never thought they'd fight us, I always suspected it was all a bluff. I'm disappointed and disgusted in Calzaghe and I'm sorry for the boxing fans of the UK.

"I'm so disappointed for the fans in the UK, I've been to Ricky Hatton fights and Calzaghe fights in the UK and the fans over there are tremendous and they've been let down by Calzaghe. They must feel so embarrassed by Joe Calzaghe and they deserve so much better.

"I never understood why Calzaghe and Warren took this fight with a 5ft 7inch middleweight (Ashira) eight weeks before they had a huge fight ahead of them. It was a meaningless fight and Calzaghe has now used it as a way of getting out of the fight."

When I pointed out that the long-reigning WBO champion has a well-documented history of hurting his hands and elbows in fights and that Calzaghe didn't use his left hand at all from rounds four to 12, well, Shaw was having none of it...

He said: "If Joe Calzaghe's bones are really that brittle then he has to quit boxing right now - tonight - because if these injuries are for real then he's got some sort of brittle bone (disorder) and he's gonna wind up as a paraplegic. For the sake of his life style for the rest of his life, he should quit boxing if he really is getting injured all the time like this."

Shaw added that, suspecting Calzaghe would 'twist a toenail' all along, he has another big name opponent already lined up for Lacy, who will now probably defend on the November 5 date in his hometown of St Petersburg, Florida, where he's a huge attraction.

Meanwhile Warren, who is having a miserable week what with Ricky Hatton signing a co-promotional deal with rival UK promoters Fight Academy, said immediately after the Calzaghe fight that he hoped the Lacy bout could be re-arranged for February.

Warren told ITV: "Joe is never going to be ready for that (November date) so we'll try to rearrange it for next year. It is frustrating for Joe but these things happen in boxing. It is a great shame. We'll do the fight early next year, maybe February."

Warren also pointed out that he'd tried to make the Calzaghe v Lacy fight for early 2005 but Shaw had said Lacy wasn't ready.

Shaw retorted: "Tell Frank Warren that he and Joe Calzaghe don't rule 168lbs (12stone) anymore. Garry Shaw Promotions and Jeff Lacy rule the division and if he is actually serious about February then he should bring Calzaghe to the United States of America because that's the only way he'll ever see Jeff Lacy again. I have absolutely no interest in wasting my time with Joe Calzaghe once more."

akindoc

And look at this from the 12th of August when Calzaghe predicts an injury to his left hand.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4145584.stm

This guy is a plain coward in my view. I can tell you that NOBODY is surprised that Calzaghe "injured" his hand. He was fighting a guy who never fought at that weight and had been knocked out in 2 rounds in a weight division below this. This was a disgraceful match form the supposed "best" of the division. but it's what we've come to expect after his fights with Pudwill, Mcintyre etc and the fearsome mkerchian. Calzaghe just has no balls. He has pulled out of countless big fights and is considered a joke in America. He really is a disgrace to boxing. He should retire. I hopw he eventually does fight Lacy though because I'd like to see Lacy put a left hook through his head!

Geiger

Come on, people think Calzaghe intentionally held back with the left hand for 8 rounds? Please :rolleyes:

akindoc

Geiger wrote:

Come on, people think Calzaghe intentionally held back with the left hand for 8 rounds? Please :rolleyes:

look at this track record. He has ducked fight after fight. He never wants to have a meaningful fight. Kessler is "not well known" enough for Calzaghe to fight, so what are Ashira and Mkerchian? Idiot. He has been talking the talk for years and now even his own want to see him get knocked out. Have a look at the boxrec message board or any other boxing message board. Everyone thinks he is a coward running from lacy and every other top fighter. He's happy in his comfort zone.

walshb

Watched Khan and Calzaghe, I know Khan is starting out but the guy they had him fight was a joke. That's not sport, it's a sad attempt to justify Khans status. He is very good, no doubt, but surely he could be tested a little better than this. It's making a mockery of the sport. As for Calzaghe, what a joke. That guy was a blown up Welter at most. 5ft 7, c'mon...he was useless. When is Joe going to fight somebody decent...is this Lacey guy a class act??

akindoc

walshb wrote:

Watched Khan and Calzaghe, I know Khan is starting out but the guy they had him fight was a joke. That's not sport, it's a sad attempt to justify Khans status. He is very good, no doubt, but surely he could be tested a little better than this. It's making a mockery of the sport. As for Calzaghe, what a joke. That guy was a blown up Welter at most. 5ft 7, c'mon...he was useless. When is Joe going to fight somebody decent...is this Lacey guy a class act??

"Left hook" Lacy is good but by no means a defining fight. But mark my words, Lacy will put Calzaghe in a horizontal position if they ever fight. Lacy has POWER and skills. He's mad exciting. He'll bounce a few left hooks of Calzaghes chin quite quickly and most probably knock him out within 6-7 rounds in my opinion.

Geiger

akindoc wrote:

look at this track record. He has ducked fight after fight. He never wants to have a meaningful fight. Kessler is "not well known" enough for Calzaghe to fight, so what are Ashira and Mkerchian? Idiot. He has been talking the talk for years and now even his own want to see him get knocked out. Have a look at the boxrec message board or any other boxing message board. Everyone thinks he is a coward running from lacy and every other top fighter. He's happy in his comfort zone.

I don't think you had to quote me to say any of this. You're missing my point. For anyone to say that Calzaghe pretended to have an injury from round 4 onwards is ridiculous. I read plenty of boxing message boards and to be honest they're full of crap. Full of conspiracy theories and know it alls. Not for me.

Tivert

akindoc wrote:

"Left hook" Lacy is good but by no means a defining fight. But mark my words, Lacy will put Calzaghe in a horizontal position if they ever fight. Lacy has POWER and skills. He's mad exciting. He'll bounce a few left hooks of Calzaghes chin quite quickly and most probably knock him out within 6-7 rounds in my opinion.

Umm......You don't watch boxing do you? I came here to offer you some bin bags, thought you might like to pick up the pieces of this lacey guy.I make that 12 rounds to calzaghe, lacey's first knock down, an extensive list of cuts and bruises to lacey, and barely a scratch on calzaghe.

These american fighters really are hyped well above their station, and this fight embodied that perfectly!

DonkeyStyle \o/

Yeah excellent fight... he certainly shut lacys big mouth and made him look a bit geriatric out there.

cooker3

Calzaghe taught him a boxing lesson tonight

wheres me jumpa

I havent been following boxing alot lately. Its certainly been a while since I saw Calzaghe and I have to say I was hugely impressed. Lacy's condition and talk made me feel Calzaghe was in for a beating.

But quiet the opposite. Calzaghe was fantastic. Lacy looked a one trick pony. Even in the last rounds I thought Calzaghe would tire but he kept going. Relentless. Great nights entertainment.

Did anyone see Silence Saheed? My god the man is a lunatic! One of the wildest boxers I have ever seen.

Just watched the fight replayed on Itv.

not really a boxing fan but i haven't ever seen a better performance from the apparent "underdog".

The commentator was ridiculed on American tv when he suggested Calzaghe would win it, but he won by a lot more than the judges points total suggested...

The Wicker Man

Joe Calzaghe you are the scource of much indigestion the world over today as we all gorge ourselves on humble pie !
What a performance, absolute masterclass.I personally have always moaned about his safe defences against lesser fighters but am glad to take my hat off to a great fight and some future superfights against RJJ , Tarver etc

Big Ears

Tivert wrote:

Umm......You don't watch boxing do you? I came here to offer you some bin bags, thought you might like to pick up the pieces of this lacey guy.I make that 12 rounds to calzaghe, lacey's first knock down, an extensive list of cuts and bruises to lacey, and barely a scratch on calzaghe.

These american fighters really are hyped well above their station, and this fight embodied that perfectly!

I am afraid this is one of the rare occasions when I have to come to the defense of akindoc . The vast majority of boxing fans and media thought Lacy would win (and by stoppage) .

I had Lacy a 60/40 favourite going in and I thought he would score a stoppage win around the 8/9 after getting Calzaghe to stand and trade with him and eventually overwhelming him .
But Calzaghe was masterful last night , simply amazing .

Lacy has been exposed a bit though . He has one hell of a chin and plenty of power but can be outboxed and had huge problems with the southpaw stance and most of all Joe's speed . He also seems very one paced and not able to up the tempo and try to stop the other guy when behind . He never changed his gameplan , and his corner never told him too either .
Also for all of his great physique it didn't help him win in the clinches and Calzaghe pushed him around . I think the reason for this is Calzaghe is a fully fledged large Super Middleweight , while Lacy looks like a middleweight thats just been pumped up .

If I were Lacy's manager i'd go after Marcus Beyer after a comeback fight or two. Beyer can box a bit + a southpaw and could cause Lacy problems , but he has no chin and Lacy would eventually get him out of there . That's why Lacy fighting in Germany (where he would have to to get the fight) wouldn't be a problem as if he was going to win it wouldn't go to the judges .

Calzaghe will most likely go after Clinton Woods for the IBF Light-Heavyweight belt and if he boxes like that again I would have him a strong favourite .

Big Ears

The Wicker Man wrote:

Joe Calzaghe you are the scource of much indigestion the world over today as we all gorge ourselves on humble pie !
What a performance, absolute masterclass.I personally have always moaned about his safe defences against lesser fighters but am glad to take my hat off to a great fight and some future superfights against RJJ , Tarver etc

RJJ V Joe Calzaghe would not be a superfight , it would be a beating for a once great fighter far past his prime . RJJ would lose to Tarver , G.Johnson , Adamek , Woods , Tiozzo and Erdei at Light Heavyweight , he is no longer that once incredible p4p no.1 , he's no longer light-heavyweight no.1 and as you can see I don't even rate him in the Light Heavyweight top 5 .He is shot and should retire .

The Wicker Man

Big Ears wrote:

RJJ V Joe Calzaghe would not be a superfight , it would be a beating for a once great fighter far past his prime . RJJ would lose to Tarver , G.Johnson , Adamek , Woods , Tiozzo and Erdei at Light Heavyweight , he is no longer that once incredible p4p no.1 , he's no longer light-heavyweight no.1 and as you can see I don't even rate him in the Light Heavyweight top 5 .He is shot and should retire .

Agree with you on cold hard boxing analysis that RJJ is shot, but events like last night have to pull in more than just hard core boxing fans.
To the casual sports fan RJJ is a "name" fighter. Calzaghe against Jones would fill a stadium when you consider the hype it would generate as a spectacle if held in uk.
The American public would probably not buy into it but the uk public would.

Big Ears

The Wicker Man wrote:

Agree with you on cold hard boxing analysis that RJJ is shot, but events like last night have to pull in more than just hard core boxing fans.
To the casual sports fan RJJ is a "name" fighter. Calzaghe against Jones would fill a stadium when you consider the hype it would generate as a spectacle if held in uk.
The American public would probably not buy into it but the uk public would.

I agree that if a fight between Joe Calzaghe and RJJ were to happen it could be a good money spinner for all involved , the fight would be broadcast on both ITV and Showtime (who Roy Jones now works with instead of HBO) and would generate as much interest as the Lacy fight . However a fight between Calzaghe and Clinton Woods would be a better option for everyone (including Roy Jones , who should just stick to being a commentator) . It would generate huge interest in the UK and after how well Calzaghe performed against Lacy + the fact that Woods is a champion at Light Heavy it would most likely be shown in the US aswell .It would certainly be a better fight and there would be more at stake .

Here's the downside: I have remembered that Woods is a Hobson fighter (SKY) and Calzaghe a Warren fighter (ITV) , if a fight was made Warren would undoubtedly win purse bids and im sure Hobson knows that . This combined with Calzaghe being a stronger fighter might make Hobson wary of making that fight.........but then again money talks , and this one would make a lot of money .

megadodge

Sorry Big Ears, but Akindoc deserves every single word of criticism he gets -not because he thought Lacey would win (most did) but because of the following type comments -

This guy is a plain coward in my view. I can tell you that NOBODY is surprised that Calzaghe "injured" his hand. He was fighting a guy who never fought at that weight and had been knocked out in 2 rounds in a weight division below this. This was a disgraceful match form the supposed "best" of the division. but it's what we've come to expect after his fights with Pudwill, Mcintyre etc and the fearsome mkerchian. Calzaghe just has no balls. He has pulled out of countless big fights and is considered a joke in America. He really is a disgrace to boxing. He should retire. I hopw he eventually does fight Lacy though because I'd like to see Lacy put a left hook through his head!

This is exactly the type of utter garbage that I have come to expect from Boxing Forums full of 'internet warriors' hiding behind their keyboards. If these 'brave' people actually ever stepped into a ring themselves they wouldn't be long changing their opinion on "cowardliness", "no balls", "disgrace to boxing" etc.

As far as I'm concerned Akindoc is just another young fella who has taken a recent interest in watching boxing and thinks by reading what other young fellas (mainly American loudmouths) who have taken a recent interest in watching boxing say on internet forums he's suddenly an expert on all things boxing.

He's fallen into the old Irish trap of "the more cynical I sound the more people will think I know about it".

Well done Joe Calzaghe.

walshb

No disrespect to Calzaghe, but Jeff Lacy was no more a top class fighter than any of Joe's previous opponents. The guy had a chin and was tough as hell, but I'm afraid that's about it. He was more a body builder than boxer. Joe did what he had to and is a fine boxer, but to say Lacy was top class or make him favorite is stretching it a bit....

Would a peak Collins, Benn, Eubank, Toney, Jones Junior have been a tougher
challenge. Most definitely and probably all would be too much for Joe.

megadodge

but to say Lacy was top class or make him favorite is stretching it a bit....

Well he WAS the favourite whether you thought so or not. The bookies price on Lacey kept dropping and Calzaghe's kept rising over the weeks coming up to the bout (having started pretty much even) and the majority of 'experts' were predicting a Lacey win. I myself thought it would be a terribly close fight and had a small punt on the draw at 24/1 but all the time hoping Calzaghe would win. I genuinely was surprised at the disparity between the two on the night, moreso because I thought Calzaghe had gone back in the last two years rather than believing Lacey was a 'supermiddle Tyson' as had been suggested on some forums.

As for the other fighters mentioned I think only Jones would be a definite over him. It's all about styles and Calzaghe's is a nightmare for almost anyone.

walshb

James Toney would beat Calzaghe I'm sure. He's the best of that bunch and would bee too much for Joe. Collins at his best would be too rough and tough. Lacy had nothing to offer but resistance. That's how average he was.

megadodge

I'm not basing my judgement solely on the Lacey fight. This has been my opinion for a long time.

Toney is my idea of an overrated fighter. A country mile behind Michael Nunn (excellent boxer but chinny) he landed a beautiful left hook and hey presto he's champ. A number of unimpressive and lucky defences later he moves up in weight and meets a 'name' fighter past his best who's style is absolutely made in heaven for him - Iran Barkely - who he predictably hammered and suddenly he was p4p no.1!! Not long later he was absolutely schooled by admittedly a super talent, goes into semi-hibernation for a few years, comes back and beats up a few past-it and ordinary heavies in an extremely ordinary division and everybody's raving about him again. I just don't get it.

OK, he's classy if you walk straight into him ala Jirov, but if you don't he can be outworked and that's what would have happened IMO v Calzaghe at super-middle. He just doesn't fight hard enough for the full round to land enough punches to outscore him.

As for Collins I think Calzaghe is a better version of himself. He's faster, has a better defence and is more skillful (Collins was underrated skill-wise though)plus being a southpaw. Both have excellent chins and don't mark up so it's a cert to go the distance, but Collins' ability to work hard for the full 3 minutes would be equalled leaving the already mentioned differences to seperate them on the scorecards for a UD in Calzaghe's favour.

Obviously this is my opinion and if you disagree I don't hold it against you, but that's how I see it.

The Wicker Man

Steve Collins would have been exposed as the crude brawler he was if he had ever got in a ring with Calzaghe.Collins had a good chin and was a pysically strong fighter so Calzaghe most likely would not have won by stoppage,but would have done a job on him like he did on Lacy.
Lets keep it real with regards to Steve Collins and take off our shamrock tinted spectacles when discussing hypothetical match ups with other fighters

walshb

JT at his absolute peak was a terrific fighter, and as brilliant as Nunn was, James was extremely competitive during their 1991 fight right up to where he KO'd Nunn. Calzaghe is not in either of those guys league. He does not hit near hard enough to beat or worry James. Lacey would not have gone 5 rds with a peak Toney. Toney had it all, speed, defense, chin and KO power from all angles. His defense was legendary. Calzaghe wouldn't be able to figure Toney out and would be too busy trying to avoid the Toney offense, punches from all angles. Yes Toney was terrible against Jones, but he was no right for that fight and had serious weight problems leading up to it. I'm talking peaks here by the way and at their respective peaks, Toney was a championship fighter, Calzaghe a very good fighter. Toney takes it no matter what scenario the fight would take.

megadodge

James was extremely competitive during their 1991 fight right up to where he KO'd Nunn

I don't believe in 'lucky' punches so fair dues he got the knockout when he needed it but the reality was he was so far behind he did need it.

Toney had it all, speed, defense, chin and KO power from all angles.

I'd have to disagree. The two most obvious things he didn't have were good footwork - in fact his feet have always been very slow, hence his preference for opponents who come at him - and a decent workrate. His power was also more a wear-you-down-with-precision type rather than one-punch KO power.

Calzaghe wouldn't be able to figure Toney out and would be too busy trying to avoid the Toney offense, punches from all angles.

On the contrary, I reckon with his low punch output and Calzaghe's extremely high punch output along with the fact that Calzaghe is one of the few fighters who really does throw punches from ALL angles (is there anyone out there who throws more uppercuts from both hands ?) means it would be Toney on the defensive more often than vice versa.

Yes Toney was terrible against Jones, but he was no right for that fight and had serious weight problems leading up to it.

This is one of my pet hates. The whole excuse department when a fighter loses. The Jones fight was massive and it wasn't as if Toney only had a few weeks to prepare. He made the weight and was exposed by a vastly superior fighter. The reason he looked so bad was because Jones made him look bad ! Someone with feet as slow as Toney against arguably the fastest fighter (hand and foot) in history is always gonna come out looking bad no matter what bullsh*t excuses he comes up with.

In no ways am I suggesting it's a certainty, or that it would be an easy fight but I think Calzaghe's overall speed and workrate are the perfect foil to Toney's way less frequent classy bursts.

akindoc

megadodge wrote:

Sorry Big Ears, but Akindoc deserves every single word of criticism he gets -not because he thought Lacey would win (most did) but because of the following type comments -



This is exactly the type of utter garbage that I have come to expect from Boxing Forums full of 'internet warriors' hiding behind their keyboards. If these 'brave' people actually ever stepped into a ring themselves they wouldn't be long changing their opinion on "cowardliness", "no balls", "disgrace to boxing" etc.

As far as I'm concerned Akindoc is just another young fella who has taken a recent interest in watching boxing and thinks by reading what other young fellas (mainly American loudmouths) who have taken a recent interest in watching boxing say on internet forums he's suddenly an expert on all things boxing.

He's fallen into the old Irish trap of "the more cynical I sound the more people will think I know about it".

Well done Joe Calzaghe.

Son I've been watching boxing for over 10 years and I've seen every fight that you've seen + more.

Calzaghe fought nothing for 40 fights. He backed out of fights and claimed he would Ko Roy Jones when Jones was in his prime, yet he was scared of flying so the fight couldn't be made. What was Joe doing the the USA a few years ago then? Didn't he also have a fight in Denmark? He pulled out of countless fights. the Johnson debacle is still fresh in everyones mind. He is an arrogant tosser.

And who told you Lacy was the super middleweight Tyson? What retard was saying that? He is nowhere near Tyson, unless you're talking about the recent Tyson.

Yes, I thought Lacy would win. Because Calzaghe has been fighting NOTHING for years. And he will continue to do so now. He simply HAD to fight Lacy at this point or nobody would have cared anymore after his recent spat of fights against the likes of salem, ashira and the rematch against Viet.

His career is a joke. prime Jones would knock his ass out with one hand tied behind his back. Prime toney would PLAY with Calzaghe.

Lets get this right. Lacy isn't the super middleweight Tyson or anything like it. He's a guy who has ambition and is willing to travel to fight the best. He's done more in 22 fights than Calzaghe could ever do, and thats to show BALLS. Can you see Calzaghe doing that in his 22nd fight? No, he'd rather fight the bum of the month club.

In conclusion, you can continue to suck Calzaghes balls after this win, but real boxing fans know what he is all about.

The Wicker Man

Every major boxing scribe on both sides of the atlantic had Lacy their choice to win against Calzaghe.He actually held the more prestigious IBF title and was a formidable champion in his own right.Calzaghe won so convincingly that Dan Birmingham (Lacys trainer,and a man who last year was voted Americas trainer of the year by American Boxing Writers Association) said it was the most complete display of boxing he had ever seen.
We have all criticised Joe in the past but lets not lose sight of the masterclass of fistic brilliance we all witnessed against Lacy.
Fair play to you Joe.One of the best displays of pure boxing i have seen in 25 years of watching fights.;)

akindoc

The Wicker Man wrote:

Every major boxing scribe on both sides of the atlantic had Lacy their choice to win against Calzaghe.He actually held the more prestigious IBF title and was a formidable champion in his own right.Calzaghe won so convincingly that Dan Birmingham (Lacys trainer,and a man who last year was voted Americas trainer of the year by American Boxing Writers Association) said it was the most complete display of boxing he had ever seen.
We have all criticised Joe in the past but lets not lose sight of the masterclass of fistic brilliance we all witnessed against Lacy.
Fair play to you Joe.One of the best displays of pure boxing i have seen in 25 years of watching fights.;)

what do you expect lacys trainer to say?

"my fighter is too slow and not skilled enough to beat calzaghe" or, "my fighter was beaten by a great performance".

joe would get beaten by kessler (who he claims is not well known enough to fight, this was before he fought viet and ashira), tarver, johnson (who joe shamefully ducked twice by pulling out). I'd even give WOODS a good chance.

The Wicker Man

akindoc wrote:

what do you expect lacys trainer to say?

"my fighter is too slow and not skilled enough to beat calzaghe" or, "my fighter was beaten by a great performance".

joe would get beaten by kessler (who he claims is not well known enough to fight, this was before he fought viet and ashira), tarver, johnson (who joe shamefully ducked twice by pulling out). I'd even give WOODS a good chance.

Oh,sorry i got it wrong, as did the whole world.What we actually saw last weekend was third rate club fighter Joe "i cudda bin a contender" Calzaghe getting lucky for twelve rounds against Jeff "bouncer/road sweeper" Lacy...NOT
Mate nothing anyone says will cure you of your anti-Calzaghe bias,whats your beef ? Did he steal your bird or something?

Big Ears

akindoc wrote:

what do you expect lacys trainer to say?

"my fighter is too slow and not skilled enough to beat calzaghe" or, "my fighter was beaten by a great performance".

joe would get beaten by kessler (who he claims is not well known enough to fight, this was before he fought viet and ashira), tarver, johnson (who joe shamefully ducked twice by pulling out). I'd even give WOODS a good chance.

Kessler is pretty underated and would push Calzaghe all the way but I feel Joe would win a narrow UD .

However the Light-Heavyweights are **** , talent wise the division is even weaker than Super-Middleweight it's just that there more guys on that same mediocre level . Tarver and Johnson would both lose to Calzaghe , both overated decent fighters who happened to catch Roy Jones with dimished skills . It's been 3 years since Tarver faught anyone other than Roy Jones or Glen Johnson , yet he's able to go around calling himself the champ (despite Erdei being linear) and if he doesn't get a fight against a fighter from a different weight division he's porbably going to fight Johnson again . Who despite being 1-1-0 with Tarver was a little lucky in the first fight and was outclassed in the second , it would make more sense for him to fight Woods in a third fight (which will happen if Johnson wants it) than to get a shot at Tarver again .

megadodge

Son I've been watching boxing for over 10 years and I've seen every fight that you've seen + more.

Wayhay, I've been called "son" for the first time since my school principal did it way back in the early 80's. All that Oil of Olay was worth it then.
If you've been watching boxing for 10 years come back to me in another 20, then you'll be watching as long as I am now, but I'll have watched 50 by then, so...

And besides it's not about the length of time you've been watching it's about your attitude !!

And who told you Lacy was the super middleweight Tyson? What retard was saying that?

People similar to you on other forums. People who don't actually know the subtleties and nuances of boxing.

prime Jones would knock his ass out

Keep up the Americanisms, it just proves my point on where you're getting all your boxing 'knowledge' from.

He's a guy who has ambition and is willing to travel to fight the best. He's done more in 22 fights than Calzaghe could ever do, and thats to show BALLS. Can you see Calzaghe doing that in his 22nd fight? No, he'd rather fight the bum of the month club.

Funny you should mention 22 fights cos that's exactly how many Calzaghe had when he fought Chris Eubank. My oh my, poetic justice or what ?

In conclusion, you can continue to suck Calzaghes balls after this win, but real boxing fans know what he is all about.

Go USA, Go USA.... and REAL boxing fans RESPECT boxers !! All of them.
Now go down to your nearest gym and try it out for a few sessions especially the sparring bit, then come back and belittle some of the bravest, hardest men on the planet.