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England/Ireland drop in FIFA Rankings

  • 14-09-2005 11:49am
    #1
    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭


    BBC Link

    Ireland down 7 places to 21st, England down 4 to 11th.

    Any thoughts?


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  • #2
    Big Nelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    BBC Link

    Ireland down 7 places to 21st, England down 4 to 11th.

    Any thoughts?

    Thought number one is that these rankings are useless!!! :D


  • #3
    RE*AC*TOR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    the czech republic are 4th?? how very silly.


  • #4
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Yeah, I'm a little wary of these rankings too.

    England number 11? WTF that are not top 20 material...
    Holland number 2?? Dunno. Not number 2.


  • #5
    jubbly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭jubbly


    its a load of cóck if you ask me. meaningless.

    All that concerns me is two wins out of two in the next two games.


  • #6
    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Yeah I'm inclined to agree that the accuracy of these rankings are highly questionable.

    Still, if we had moved into the top 10 people wouldn't exactly be questioning them...


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  • #7
    Big Nelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    Yeah I'm inclined to agree that the accuracy of these rankings are highly questionable.

    Still, if we had moved into the top 10 people wouldn't exactly be questioning them...

    years ago we where in top 10.......


  • #8
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    This rankings don’t mean a thing. They are totally inaccurate and tbh I couldn’t care less if we dropped to 151st as long as we win our next two games. Don’t pay any attention to FIFA's rankings


  • #9
    Necronomicon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Do they effect seedings in any way?


  • #10
    por
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭por


    Necromomicon wrote:
    Do they effect seedings in any way?

    no, I read in last Friday's Irish Times (I don't have a link as you have to pay for it) that the seeding take into accout performance in World Cup 2006 qualifing and performance in Euro '04 and Euro '04 qualifing.
    So if we don't qualify for WC '06 we will probably be a 4th seed.
    And for Euro '08 there will be no playoffs, top 2 from group qualifies


  • #11
    masterK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭masterK


    Look at 5th in the rankings. That sums up how much meaning they have.


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  • #12
    jubbly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭jubbly


    All you have to do is play lots of friendlies and not lose and you can get into the top 10.

    I think we belong in the top 15. Anything below that is a disapointment.

    If we win our next two games against Cyprus and Switzerland we will be 3rd seeds in Euro qualifiers. That means we will be fighting for one spot with a team that is on paper better than us. It has always suited us in the past so we have a good chance of making it through.

    But by the same token, another good team could drop in the rankings and they could be in as 4th seeds. So its all swings and roundabouts.


  • #13
    eirebhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    For the World Cup 2002 the group seedings were calculated as follows:

    50% goes on performances in last 3 world cups, weighted more heavily towards recent results.
    50% goes on the FIFA rankings.

    So the rankings are not meaningless but I would take bottom seed now if we could get to the bloody world cup.

    Anyway, 21st is about right for us. We're 21st on this also:
    http://www.eloratings.net/


  • #14
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    The reason they are useless is that they take into account friendlies, meaning we are actually higher than we should be and England lower. Bar the NI game, England usually do very well incompetitive games and treat friendlies as the meaningless games they are (though SGE takes this to a whole new level) Us on the other hand do ok in competitive games and quite well in friendlies, giving us a decent (if unjust ) position.


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