One ugly website

Ph3n0m

http://www.dundrum.ie/

I mean, wow, it is one ugly site and whoever did it used Flash simply for the sake of using it.

Personally I found it quite offensive that the homepage is a continually looping flash movie, that I can only turn the sound off.

As for the choice of colours - ugh, black against maroon does not work.

Because of it being a new development, I had (for some reason) visions of a modern, and graphical stunning site - and instead I get a pile of poo, bad Flash poo if you will


People - your thoughts (and yes I am bitching just for the hell of it, its a slow day)

Civilian_Target

My god - I didn't actually click anything because I guess it would induce either connection pain or vomiting.

Imagine using that site on a modem - you'd be truly pissed off...

Ph3n0m

Because of this site, a new word (well a stolen funny one) has been created


Ga-vomiting - combination gag and vomit

kstanl

It's pretty goddamn awful alright but I've seen much worse.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Never thought I'd see a site that made me motion sick, but here we are.

the_syco

Its bad. Not very nice at all. You'd only like it if you were tripping, tbh.

Gordon

Well, it would have been nice if it wasn't a website.

Although not as bad as the one above in terms of sea-sickness, I almost got a job with the crowd that makes this website. Although it's well made and looks ok it's just annoying to browse.

rsynnott

Death penalty for people who make flash websites, please.

Rollo Tamasi

speaking of horror flash sites!
http://www.forumwaterford.com/FLASH/

i nearly choked on my own vomit.....o wait i am..arrhh!

kstanl

Death penalty to people who make sweeping generalisations about Flash sites.

miju

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote:

Never thought I'd see a site that made me motion sick, but here we are.

my sentiments exactly, i got really dizzy after about 2 secs on that site, i wonder wot the stats are for people who go past the first page

miju

flash when used correctly is great flash used ala dundrum and the waterford forum is a capital offence imo

Gordon

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

speaking of horror flash sites!
http://www.forumwaterford.com/FLASH/

i nearly choked on my own vomit.....o wait i am..arrhh!

Dear god, my eyes.

I don't think I can replicate this image if I tried:


I know it's a gif but it looks like some strangely shape tweened text. But it's a gif

Civilian_Target

Gordon wrote:

Well, it would have been nice if it wasn't a website.

Although not as bad as the one above in terms of sea-sickness, I almost got a job with the crowd that makes this website. Although it's well made and looks ok it's just annoying to browse.

Yeah - screen... not... tall... enough.... F11 no use....

kstanl

_raptor_ wrote:

flash when used correctly is great flash used ala dundrum and the waterford forum is a capital offence imo

That's really covering old ground. This argument has been raging since the 90's and we're all still doing it. Why bother? Can we just agree that it's the workman and not the tools? There are plenty of rubbish HTML sites out there... there are plenty of appalling standards-compliant sites out there too. Yet we bash Flash verbatim until we're blue in the face. :rolleyes:

Ph3n0m

kstanl - trust me, I set out to bash whoever created that monstrosity - not the tools they used.

I wonder if anyone can name and shame or if they are a boards user will they have the testicular fortitude to stand up and be proud of that site?

canker

I dont' like it but its nowhere near as bad as you guys are making it out to be. A little less movement from the background and some less harsh coloring and it could be allright.

rsynnott

kstanl wrote:

That's really covering old ground. This argument has been raging since the 90's and we're all still doing it. Why bother? Can we just agree that it's the workman and not the tools? There are plenty of rubbish HTML sites out there... there are plenty of appalling standards-compliant sites out there too. Yet we bash Flash verbatim until we're blue in the face. :rolleyes:

The point is that there is never a situation where flash is superior to HTML for a website that people are actually going to use. It's a great tool for showing off, and for making fun animations, but that's ALL all-flash sites are; a show-off session. Their usability is generally horrible.

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20021125.html

kstanl

rsynnott wrote:

The point is that there is never a situation where flash is superior to HTML for a website that people are actually going to use. It's a great tool for showing off, and for making fun animations, but that's ALL all-flash sites are; a show-off session. Their usability is generally horrible.

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20021125.html

Using Jakob Neilson's arguments has been raging since the 90's too

At the end of the day, saying that Flash usability is generally horrible may or may not be true but you have to concede that this is the fault of the designer and not the technology itself. While XHTML holds the fort over Flash in terms of accessibility and SEO - there's nothing wrong with using Flash as long as you use it properly. Flash is a great tool but it has its uses - microsites, RIA's, some FMCG sites and ephemeral s**t. It's a matter of knowing HOW to use it and WHEN to use it. From my experience, anti-Flash militancy is more often than not a sign of inexperience and/or immaturity in industry.

Ph3n0m

Oh stop it people - this is nothing to do with Flash is bad/good/great and the pro/anti Flash brigade

This was all about an ugly website - thats all

As said already - the Flash debate has been done before - line is drawn, learn not to cross it

kstanl

The only thing that irritates me more than the anti-Flash brigade are holier-than-thou fascist mods. I'll stick to the other couple of boards I frequent and leave you lot to it. :rolleyes:

Ph3n0m

The only thing that irritates me more than the anti-Flash brigade are holier-than-thou fascist mods. I'll stick to the other couple of boards I frequent and leave you lot to it.

I am holier than you, I have many many genital and facial piercings - as for being a fascist - well I know I am no follower of fashion, but thats no reason for name calling

Wait, were you trying to insult me?

Sidane

That site is pretty bad, but I've seen A LOT LOT worse.

This http://www.forumwaterford.com/FLASH/ definitely blows it out of the water for crapiness.

*BLAHK*