US: 2X01 - "Man Of Science, Man Of Faith" [SPOILERS WITHIN]

Basq · 21-09-2005 12:01am #1

- WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET SEEN "MAN OF SCIENCE, MAN OF FAITH" -

Episode Title: "Man Of Science, Man Of Faith"
Airdate: September 21st 2005

Synopsis (from TV.Com):

The second season starts where the survivors have left off with Jack, Locke and others going down the hatch and finding out what is under there. One of the castaways is chosen to descend into the mysterious hatch, and

Shannon stumbles upon a shockingly familiar face in the jungle.

Next New Episode: 2X02 - "Adrift" - September 28th 2005

Basq · 21-09-2005 12:03am

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Anyone else just a tad excited?!

Mightn't be able to comment on the episode til after the weekend - am leaving lunchtime Thursday for a wedding. Will make it my mission to see the episode before i leave though!

RawrLostzilla · 21-09-2005 12:08am

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1 more day!!!!!!!

herobear · 21-09-2005 12:15am

since we all will be seeing the episode at different times, whats the general protocol in terms of uncensored(spoiler tag free) discussion ??

tvnutz · 21-09-2005 12:22am

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Hehe...the thread being put up makes it very exciting

Ummm...about spoilers,I guess if you look at the thread before you have seen the episode,its probably your own fault. I probably won't see it until Friday since my broadband sucks donkey balls :rolleyes:

herobear · 21-09-2005 12:27am

okay, so need for spoiler tags, then? cool!

so my thoughts on episode 2.1,

well i found it really disturbing when jack and locke started making out, then kate started to get jealous, lol!

and poor hurley getting eaten by vincent like that!

.....no but seriously, i reckon early thursday people will start watching it!

Basq · 21-09-2005 12:34am

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tvnutz wrote:

Hehe...the thread being put up makes it very exciting

Yep.. had to put up the thread to up the excitement!

Regarding spoilers:

The general consensus on spoilers back in the good ol' 'Lost' thread (** sniff sniff **

) was that to use spoiler tags until we could assume everyone had seen the episode but to be honest.. i think all the IRL threads in the past few months discussing episodes has been pretty much spoiler-tag-free!

So.. no more spoiler tags required means this thread is high-risk for spoilage after the time of airing, agreed?! So no wandering into this thread before you've seen this episode expecting spoiler tags!

I have warnings in both the thread title and the thread-starting post so YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Peace · 21-09-2005 8:19am

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Does anyone know what time (local time) our american cousins will be putting our packets in the mail???

Basq · 21-09-2005 9:14am

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Peace wrote:

Does anyone know what time (local time) our american cousins will be putting our packets in the mail???

Normally about 3am..

pickarooney · 21-09-2005 3:26pm

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I'm seriously considering ringing in sick tomorrow morning

Ciaran500 · 21-09-2005 8:38pm

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Just hope they have a HD version up early. Its normally comes out later

GrumPy · 21-09-2005 9:19pm

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What time can i expect to find me this episode?

herobear · 21-09-2005 9:45pm

just a warning to everybody, ive already heard several reports of fakes already being posted by devious cousins, so make sure to wait till at LEAST 3am before you start to go look(and even later for HDTV versions), and try and keep your patience level up, fyi the fakes found so far contain anything from the season 1 clipshow, to the tv show 'prison break' and any could contain viruses!

so be on your lookout!

qz · 21-09-2005 9:49pm

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My cousin's sending mine over at some stage before I leave for school, so it should be the correct one.

/commencing end of thread reading.

Sauron · 21-09-2005 10:29pm

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aye, my helpful and conveniently placed cousin who I've only recently started talking to is sending mine over sometime tomorrow morning, around 9am perhaps..... but I'd estimate the travel time to be at least an hour so I wont be able to watch it until sometime after ten... (incredible postal service we have nowadays.. :rolleyes: )

Basq · 21-09-2005 10:33pm

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I'm afraid i'm leaving for the weekend at lunchtime tomorrow and i've college in the morning so probably won't get to see it til after the weekend!

:mad:

Grrrrr..!!

qz · 21-09-2005 10:36pm

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Hate. That.

Why not just stay up tonight? You'll only miss out on a few hours of sleep, no big deal.

Sauron · 21-09-2005 10:39pm

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because our cousins can't just send it straight away... it takes a few hours for them to prepare it before they send it... so you'd miss a lot of sleep...

Basq · 21-09-2005 10:40pm

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qz wrote:

Hate. That.

Why not just stay up tonight? You'll only miss out on a few hours of sleep, no big deal.

Maybe. I might try and bring it with me and watch it on my Archos!

But definantly won't have a review / comments until Sunday / Monday!

Anyways.. having an early night! if i don't see ye, enjoy it!

qz · 21-09-2005 10:43pm

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Lol, again, sorry to hear it!

digiman · 21-09-2005 10:50pm

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Bit like you Basquille, I will probably have to wait until Sunday to see, I see 2 muppets have already posted on the poll even though the episode has not been seen by anyone. Of course some of these people could be the producers or cast!!!

which would make look really stupid for saying the above

tvnutz · 21-09-2005 10:59pm

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digiman wrote:

Bit like you Basquille, I will probably have to wait until Sunday to see, I see 2 muppets have already posted on the poll even though the episode has not been seen by anyone. Of course some of these people could be the producers or cast!!! which would make look really stupid for saying the above

I hate when idiots who don't like the show,vote terrible just for that reason. They havn't even seen it yet. What a tool.

Brock · 21-09-2005 11:37pm

i set my alarm early to get up and throw this baby on the psp before heading into town on the dart for college cant ****ing wait.

saintsaucey · 22-09-2005 2:30am

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How can you people in the uk watch it on episodes from your cousins if your tv and our tv have different scanning rations or something like that. (I actually studied broadcasting in college so i should know how to explain this better but i don't because I hated broadcasting in college) I'm just curious i know some of you said you are getting tapes from here in the states.

herobear · 22-09-2005 2:46am

'tapes' is a metaphor for something else....we're trying to be subtle

what program do i need to view the seating chart on this url ??
http://www.oceanic-air.com/seatingchart.htm

i think i accidentally uninstalled it, and now dont know what it is

monkeyfudge · 22-09-2005 2:52am

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saintsaucey wrote:

How can you people in the uk watch it on episodes from your cousins if your tv and our tv have different scanning rations or something like that. (I actually studied broadcasting in college so i should know how to explain this better but i don't because I hated broadcasting in college) I'm just curious i know some of you said you are getting tapes from here in the states.

Most modern video players and TV sets are capable of displaying both PAL and NTSC signals... I think mine can do SECAM too.

Oh.. and this is an Irish site, not a UK site.

bringitdown · 22-09-2005 3:00am

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Son of a bitch.... good episode... need more NOW!

Just watched it on ABC in Canada.....

monkeyfudge · 22-09-2005 3:02am

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bringitdown wrote:

Son of a bitch.... good episode... need more NOW!

Just watched it on ABC in Canada.....

Oh you do know we all hate you now... don't you?

bringitdown · 22-09-2005 3:04am

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monkeyfudge wrote:

Oh you do know we all hate you now... don't you?

But I love me, and so does your ma! ;-)

RawrLostzilla · 22-09-2005 3:05am

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Fantastic, except that Jack was sorta a dick to Hurley. When hurley tells him he was in an institution. And then Desomnd... Intresting, I MISSED WHAT WALT WAS WHISPERING@@!!!!

herobear · 22-09-2005 3:51am

walt says:

'I answer to no one, only to her'

FatherTed · 22-09-2005 3:51am

RawrLostzilla wrote:

Fantastic, except that Jack was sorta a dick to Hurley. When hurley tells him he was in an institution. And then Desomnd... Intresting, I MISSED WHAT WALT WAS WHISPERING@@!!!!

I think Walt was saying "Dont say anything" or something like that.

Wow, that as a great way to start the new season. I like the way Desmond said in their first encounter, "See you in another life".

saintsaucey · 22-09-2005 5:17am

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How did you here what walt was whispering. I put it on captions and It said Indiscriminate whispering.

I must admit im sorry now that I read the spoilers for this before watching it. Bad Spoiler Whore Saucey. My brother called me right before the last commercial break was up and said that it was just like he predicted. It's some kind of military testing sight for a resident evil like facility, and thats why they needed walt.

My brother is officially the biggest idiot in the world.

I'll finish this later

feylya · 22-09-2005 5:55am

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Oh my.... That was rather good! Although

I think the desmond thing was a wee bit obvious when he was introduced

but I didn't have a clue what was going on at the start of the episode. I thought my cousin had recorded the wrong program

Sleep now.

lynchie · 22-09-2005 6:34am

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Just finished watching it here. Didnt need my cousin to send it to me as Im in LA. The one time I wish I had of been on the east coast so I could have seen it 3 hrs earlier.

Was a good series opener overall. The bloke in the hatch seems to be living there a long time.. anyone notice the old fashioned exercise bike and computer at that too. Opens more questions such as how has he had power and food for that long? Another coincidence that the bloke inside is the same bloke jack met in the football stadium?

Looking forward to next weeks episode. They didnt show anything new on the preview for next weeks episode yet.

Gone West · 22-09-2005 12:02pm

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Sauron wrote:

because our cousins can't just send it straight away... it takes a few hours for them to prepare it before they send it... so you'd miss a lot of sleep...

nope. They usually have it packaged and sent within 30 minutes. And within 10 minutes for popular ones.

herobear · 22-09-2005 12:25pm

i LOVED the opening

even though i knew what was coming it was a great 'what the hell?' scene, the flashbacks were really long and boring(LOL at jack's wig!) really looking forward to next week now!

Anima · 22-09-2005 12:27pm

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I thought it was fantastic. I'd say some people might be a little disappointed with whats in the hatch though. Its not as epic and grand as I think most people thought it would be.

herobear · 22-09-2005 12:30pm

thats the thing though, the hatch hasnt even begun to be properly explored yet, more answers soon i expect

feylya · 22-09-2005 12:36pm

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What's going on with the magnetic generator thingy and control room? And what exactly are all those lights there for (The really bright ones)? What about

Quarantine???

Stench Blossoms · 22-09-2005 1:29pm

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oh my god i cant wait until next week

herobear · 22-09-2005 1:35pm

feylya wrote:

What's going on with the magnetic generator thingy.....

i have a sneaking suspicion it might explain locke's dodgy compass, will learn more about im sure

bringitdown · 22-09-2005 1:40pm

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What about the whole Desmond

"I'll see you in another life"

remark.... a little in-joke from the writers or a real clue?

Who is

quarantined

?

Whats with the retro technology ... maybe a Battlestar tie in....

So many questions....

herobear · 22-09-2005 1:52pm

we dont really need spoiler tags in here(unless its spoiler/speculation about future episodes), since its your own fault if youre browsing this thread without seeing the episode...

that quote reminded me of nadia, didnt she say the exact same thing to sayid ?

im confused about the quarantine, desmond being quarantined from the rest of the island, or the rest of the island being quarantined from desmond ?

JackKelly · 22-09-2005 3:39pm

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oh my god that was great. So good to have lost back

As for the episode

hmmmm.Still thinking about the numbers,i think (obviosly) desmond is the man quarentined. It seems it was something to do with him that the girl moved again. Then, the numbers, it seems he wrote them all over the wall of the bunker...so they were his. Hurley got hold of his numbers, and won the lottery. So again, he was a miricle maker. Maybe he was locked away for this...being a miracle maker.

I don't get the "you have to lift it up" desmond says to Jack?

also, at the start, just before the explosion, desmond types in some kind of code on the computer and than put execute. Is this important.

Its pretty clear he's a guy stuck there in the past. But why.

Or maybe desmond is an experiment.He seems to inject something into himself at the start. Maybe the computer is a log he must sign into everyday. The government put him in there, quarintened for years,taking this drug to see what happens. Now, they've let him out.

steveland? · 22-09-2005 3:54pm

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OK, no need for spoilers because if you're clicking this link after NOT watching it it's your own fault.. the title is clearly marked...

My thoughts:
* Thank God they got straight into showing us what was in the hatch, excellent opening, took a few minutes to really get where he was.
* Speculation

Desmond must have the disease Rousseau was talking about, but he could have found a way of counteracting it, hence the drug he injected just as the hatch exploded

* Jacks flashbacks... always quite boring, and I don't think there was any of the usual "OH MY GOD" moments when he found out Sarah could move her legs... I knew they'd have to show how he met her and "fixed her" in the first place but I think that kind of thing could've waited until a less crucial episode
* This leads us onto the introduction of Desmond. A tad obvious that he was going to show up and be the man in the hatch, "See you in another life brother"
* Loved the set in the hatch, pure brilliance
* Speculation

Perhaps in his "race around the world" he encountered one of these "wormholes" or "portals" that everyone seems to believe is how they got to the island in the first place. Another alternative is that he was on the expedition with Danielle and got stranded with them. The technology in the hatch was very 70s so he's obviously been down there a while

* Shannon seeing Walt in the jungle was a bit odd... I don't think Walt actually "said" anything, I think a lot of people are just speculating on what he said. I'd imagine what he said will be cleared up by the producers the same way the transmission to Boone was cleared up.
* Michelle Rodriguez got a credit but I didn't see her anywhere in the show.

Overall I think this was a great season opener, obviousness and Jack aside, and it sets the scene for some more great storylines in the future.

herobear · 22-09-2005 4:22pm

he types in hurleys numbers at the start into the computer then presses execute, you can tell by his hand movements.....

also the numbers are on the bottles, with the meds he injects himself with
'cr-4815162342'

did anyone get kristen's 3:7 clue ? you know the whole
'the thing in the hatch can be known by 2 different names, one is 7 letters long and ends and begins with the same letter(DesmonD). the other is 3 letters long and ends and begins with letters that are right beside each other in the alphabet(MaN)'

using those clues i guessed it a coupla days before the premiere in hawaii on the 14th

ikol · 22-09-2005 4:55pm

did anyone notice 108 painted on the inside wall of the hatch which = 4+ 8+15 16+23+42

or that the routherford guy(boone/shannon's father/stepfather) who was in the crash with jacks fiance died at 8:15

Chong · 22-09-2005 4:56pm

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Ok ok people I have just watched that episode was the best ever , but another not WTF!!!!. Ok Desmond dosent look like he recognises jack ok , but when Desmond meets him in the stadium he says lift her up right , I can only come to one conclusion that Desmond is god. I am in awe and feel like a junkie right now I so what another fix of this truly excellent show.

It gets 10/10 rating from me.

Ciaran500 · 22-09-2005 5:32pm

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Just made these, first one is a sound clip of Walt when he appears in the jungle and the second one is it reversed.

http://media.putfile.com/Walt16
http://media.putfile.com/Walt2

What is he saying?

Sauron · 22-09-2005 5:33pm

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just watched it.. Excellent.. the start was great..took me a few seconds to get it..

*jack's flashbacks weren't great but weren't terrible either..
* the desmond thing was a bit obvious
* I had accidentally read the thing about Walt so I wasn't suprised.. I wish I hadn't read it though..
* I'm wondering where the hell Kate is..

really looking forward to next week...

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