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Lets all run around the golf course !

  • 23-09-2005 5:51pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭


    Why is it that some people feel they need to run around the golf course as quickly as possible :mad: , its so stupid.
    Im playing a relaxed game, not rushing, taking in the fresh air, when thump, a bloody ball lands on the green as im putting. I had not realised 2 guys had caught up to me while i was playing a long par5, i dont look back that often.
    They came up to me as i was on the next tee and said sorry, he didnt think he was going to make it :cool: .
    They then continued for the next 8 holes to just completely rush me :mad: . It seemed like if either of them played more than 5 shots they would just pick up there ball and not complete the hole. There balls where landing a few metres from me every bloody hole.

    This is not the first time i have been rushed, but these guys took it overboard, they where just being very rude. Is it some sort of a competition to make it around in record time?

    Sorry, little rant over but that just sucked :o .


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    Should of just let them play through. If you are holding them up its the natural thing to do. You would of enjoyed it more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    em...why not let them play thru...

    nothing worse than being behind slow golfers....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Firstly i aint slow, i dont rush but i dont play like a lady ;). There was already 1 guy infront of me and i am told you should not let them through if sum1 is directly infront of you?
    I actaully had to wait for him at 1 hole, but we where both playing at about the same pace. If i had let them through it woulda ment waiting for them to play, and then 1 hole down they woulda been on the other guys ass. He lets them through and then there is more of a traffic jam, dont make sense :confused: .
    I would normally let any1 through as i dont like being rushed, but should i when there are people infront of me ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    Depends on the circumstances. Obviously if there are plenty of groups ahead no point. If it was just the one group ahead and a clear run ahead of them I would of let them through. If they kept landing balls near you well then f8ck them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Not sure if there was any1 infront of him actually, the car park was full enough. The way they where landing the balls so close to me, i couldnt have been bothered, old grummpy men :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭celica140bhp


    I think (going by the rules) that a single golfer has no rights on the course and they could have demanded to play thru especially seeing as they were in such a hurry.
    I agree that it's annoying - I like a leisurely stroll around the course in the evenings when the competitions are over and it's just for pure fun and relaxation - great for clearing the mind but ruined when you have a couple of speed merchants behind you.
    Just let them thru - you're not going to enjoy it anyway.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,603 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    I think (going by the rules) that a single golfer has no rights on the course and they could have demanded to play thru especially seeing as they were in such a hurry.
    I agree that it's annoying - I like a leisurely stroll around the course in the evenings when the competitions are over and it's just for pure fun and relaxation - great for clearing the mind but ruined when you have a couple of speed merchants behind you.
    Just let them thru - you're not going to enjoy it anyway.

    the latest rule book does give single golfers status on the course..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    I would have let them through though they were totally out of order hitting up on you if you were keeping up with the group in front of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    The Rules of Golf as published by the R&A do not have anything in them that says a person playing on their own must allow players in groups through.

    HOWEVER, Etiquette does state that a player on their own has no standing on the course and must allow other groups through.

    Manners would also have played a big part here.

    I don't understand how 1 person can take longer than a two ball to play 18 holes.

    S


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    I've seen 4 balls play faster than 2 balls. Its not that the 2 balls are slow but that the 4 ball could be playing non stroke games, picking up, better players, etc. It may be etiquette to let a group behind you through if you are holding them up but the group behind also have to respect the group ahead aswell and certainly not ping balls at them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 944 ✭✭✭NoDayBut2Day


    I think it's good to play "quickly", not rushing, but just in consideration of the people in back of you... know what I mean?

    ;)


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,603 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    slumped wrote:
    The Rules of Golf as published by the R&A do not have anything in them that says a person playing on their own must allow players in groups through.

    HOWEVER, Etiquette does state that a player on their own has no standing on the course and must allow other groups through.

    Manners would also have played a big part here.

    I don't understand how 1 person can take longer than a two ball to play 18 holes.

    S

    this section about single golfers having no standing was removed from the latest edition of the rules..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭celica140bhp


    >>>this section about single golfers having no standing was removed from the latest edition of the rules..

    Was that replaced by anything? Or does it not mention the status of a single golfer anymore?

    Personally I believe if you are there during non competition time then a single should have the same rights as anyone else but the folks at my course don't believe so.....if there is anything about it in the rulebook I'd like to put it on the club notice board....


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,603 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    >>>this section about single golfers having no standing was removed from the latest edition of the rules..

    Was that replaced by anything? Or does it not mention the status of a single golfer anymore?

    Personally I believe if you are there during non competition time then a single should have the same rights as anyone else but the folks at my course don't believe so.....if there is anything about it in the rulebook I'd like to put it on the club notice board....

    the rules used to say under priority on the course:
    ""A single player has no standing and should give way to a match of any
    kind".

    This was removed in the 2004 edition and single golfers have the same status as any other group unless the commitee (sp?) decides they don't. A single should still give way if slowing down other groups but thats the same for any group on the course.

    A lot of the posts above are out of date, the latest rulebook has been out since Jan 2004 when the change was made.

    Slumped above apparently 'works in the golf industry" so he should really know better..


  • Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭okden


    slumped wrote:
    HOWEVER, Etiquette does state that a player on their own has no standing on the course and must allow other groups through.
    S

    i thought the etiquitte thing was a single player shouldnt expect to be allowed thru any group and shouldnt rush a group ahead, not that they have to let a group thru, it seems more logical which knowing golf probably means im wrong.

    i always let fast people thru (unless they are complete aseh*les about it, then i slow down :p ) if they're just a little rude i let em thru (release the hounds), nothing better than a fast group ahead and a slow group behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭milltown


    You don't mention what else was coming behind these guys. If the problem was that they were flying rather than you being slow, it seems the sensible thing would be to play them through and enjoy the rest of your game. The guy ahead of you would play them through in a hole or two and then they're gone.
    It is bloody annoying though. Playing Grange Castle this year as a three ball on a particularly busy day there was a two ball behind us but we were being slowed by the play ahead of us. Halfway up the 11th fairway a ball lands about two metres from where I'm standing without a whisper of "Fore". I was going to fire it back at them only my mates stopped me. The greenkeeper was doing his rounds in a buggy and these morons had the audacity to complain about us!!! My blood was fair boiling I tell you.
    They must have seen how animated our discussion with the GK was though because they slowed right down after that and we didn't see them again. Luckily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    Yeah it can be annoying. Was playing in a four-ball at the weekend. Two ball caught up with us so let them through. Another two-ball did the same thing. Then a third:eek: . Where do you draw the line as this constant letting through was wrecking our game enjoyment aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I dont know maybe it was already mentioned now reading it all but a single golfer alone has the least rights on the course. He is obliged to call people through. This is because if your on your own and holding people up, your either a **** golfer or hitting multipale balls. If you had just called them through then you avoid the problem.

    There are actually rules against slow play. To be honest I hate slow golf, or relaxed golf even. Play with some people who stroll around, just play crap and are jsut " out for the air" it doesnt help anyone in the group especially if someone is trying to play good golf, constantly waiting for someone to hit or find his ball or something.

    I feel like saying to some people "listen if you want fresh air and jsut a relaxed game of golf go play Wednesday evenings and not in comps" Its so frustrating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    I dont know maybe it was already mentioned now reading it all but a single golfer alone has the least rights on the course. He is obliged to call people through. This is because if your on your own and holding people up, your either a **** golfer or hitting multipale balls. If you had just called them through then you avoid the problem.

    There are actually rules against slow play. To be honest I hate slow golf, or relaxed golf even. Play with some people who stroll around, just play crap and are jsut " out for the air" it doesnt help anyone in the group especially if someone is trying to play good golf, constantly waiting for someone to hit or find his ball or something.

    I feel like saying to some people "listen if you want fresh air and jsut a relaxed game of golf go play Wednesday evenings and not in comps" Its so frustrating.

    Your looking for extreme golf mate...played at break neck speed on the side of a cliff, involving airoplanes and bungee jumping...

    Personally, I'll go out on a Sunday morning, go for a nice relaxing stroll around the golf course, hit a few balls and have a laugh and a bit of banter..

    If people behind us are playing fast, then by all means they can play through...if someone is chipping onto the green while i was putting, i would spend a further 10 minutes on the green lining up my putt...dosen't bother me, im relaxed, having a laugh and in no rush...it's a gentlemans game, and is for socialising and relaxing.

    If someones rude and trys to pressure me, ill play slower...have some manners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭swingking


    DubGuy wrote:
    Your looking for extreme golf mate...played at break neck speed on the side of a cliff, involving airoplanes and bungee jumping...

    Personally, I'll go out on a Sunday morning, go for a nice relaxing stroll around the golf course, hit a few balls and have a laugh and a bit of banter..

    If people behind us are playing fast, then by all means they can play through...if someone is chipping onto the green while i was putting, i would spend a further 10 minutes on the green lining up my putt...dosen't bother me, im relaxed, having a laugh and in no rush...it's a gentlemans game, and is for socialising and relaxing.

    If someones rude and trys to pressure me, ill play slower...have some manners.

    Well said

    I think that everyone would have better scores if they weren't so rushed when making that putt or hitting that tee shot. I also think that when people are waiting to hit their next shot, they should stand back and hit a few practice swings and keep good tempo; in this way they aren't pissed off about being held up, rather they are concentrating on their game and everyone is happy;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Dman_15


    He lets them through and then there is more of a traffic jam, dont make sense

    Not true, By letting him through, he gets the oppertunity to get through the holdup, something you wernt interested in doing.
    They came up to me as i was on the next tee and said sorry, he didnt think he was going to make it
    This is perfectly acceptable. On a Par 5 you can play your second shot while someone is on the green if you dont expect to reach. It keeps things moving, otherwise the group on the tee would have to wait untill you cleared the green and the player behind player up.
    Anyway, this was a blunt way of telling you to get a move on.
    DubGuy wrote:
    If someones rude and trys to pressure me, ill play slower...have some manners.

    Thats the attitude that ends up with 5 hour rounds.

    1- Your place on the golfcourse is behind the people in front, not in front of the people behind.

    2- Theres no shame in letting people through, I hate the stigma attached to letting people through. Some people play faster than others so let them through.


    Out of interest how long do you think is acceptable for a 4ball?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Eh, don't know where you got your first two quotes there dude, but that wasn't me that said that...as for the last quote, re-read my post...I said i've no problem with fast players or letting people play through...I was just saying if they try to pressure/bully you to speed up, like chipping onto the green while im putting, i'll slow down! :p If they just ask, I've no problem waiting and letting them play through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Dman_15


    Sorry DubGuy, my bad. edited

    If theyre chipping on to the green, alarm bells saying 'i must be playing slowly' should be ringing.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,327 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Dont any of you complainers look behind you when you are playing?
    I *hate* to se people waiting for my group and will make an extra effort to gt out of the way.
    It happens that a ball can come closer than it should, that said, it happens once.
    Any more and I dont start a go slow I have words.

    Its frustrating to be stuck behind people who dont use their brains on the course.
    - leaving bag on opposite side of the green than the next tee
    - marking card on the green
    - next player not ready when first player has hit
    - all watching the ball land on the fairway like idiots
    - not setting up your putt while someone else hits theirs

    its all simple stuff that really adds up when x 3 or 4.

    If you are being held up on every shot no amount of practice swinging or whatever will keep you in the zone.


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