Season 2, Episode 10: "Pegasus"

Rev Hellfire

Baltar never said he couldn't do it. It was that they are very hard to get rid of, added to which they had a timelimit which the peagus may not have had.

Dear god I'm starting to sound like the comic book store guy, jesus people look at us what have we come.

Feydakeen

Mmmm no timelimit?
Performing an uncoordinated jump while 700 crew members are missing, and the station is being nuked? And wouldn't the Cylons have initiated the virus-attack on all those ships and the station before launching their nukes??? (unless they wanted it to escape... )
And that crap about plotting the course to systems with resources and therefore finding the Galactica...mmmm...what are the chances of that happening?

I still say there's somehing Fishy about the Pegasus...

iguana

Feydakeen wrote:

Pegasus lost 700 peeps on first attack

Maybe it's just me but I had assumed the 700 crew lost were from several ships that Cain was the Admiral of and not just Pegasus. This is what happens when your entire knowledge of military rank comes from science fiction .

Nuttzz

Feydakeen wrote:

And wouldn't the Cylons have initiated the virus-attack on all those ships and the station before launching their nukes???

It was comming in for a major refit (3 months) perhaps baltars dodgy systems hadnt been installed on it or its vipers (they are all the new types)

Haruspex

Nuttzz wrote:

It was comming in for a major refit (3 months) perhaps baltars dodgy systems hadnt been installed on it or its vipers (they are all the new types)

Don't mean to be the Podcast Preacher Man in this thread but.... Ron Moore (around 10 minutes into the podcast) does mention that as Pegasus was going in for an overhaul, most if not all of its computers were offline and the network had been shut down!

Nuttzz

Haruspex wrote:

Ron Moore (around 10 minutes into the podcast) does mention that as Pegasus was going in for an overhaul,

so does admiral cain

Feydakeen

Yep, major overhaul, all PC networks down, and in the middle of a huge Nuke attack they make a jump in eeehhh...how many seconds would they have before a nuke or a full barrage missile attack hit them???? :rolleyes:

BKtje

Maybe they weren't targeted first?

They did say something like 3 battlestars and a load of smaller ships were taken out by the time they escaped. They also said that they did a blind jump(ie not knowing where they were gonna end up) so i guess it doesnt take very long to randomly hit a few numbers.

User45701

i loved this epsidoe as much as i loved last episode in season 1 more so actually this was one of the best sci fi ive seen in a long time and probbley the best battlestar

one thing i would request of u all is that you not mention the orgianl series since not all ppl have seen it just say orgianl series spoiler and just spoiler tag whatever u want to say

Scruff

Great episode! Finally caught up with the rest of ye!

Didnt notice the music at al tbh, must be tone deaf.

Was interesting to see the contrast between the way the Galactica which is beholden to a civilian government is begin run V the Peagasus which baxically has been given free reign as a military vessel.

The one thing i wanted asked was how they were not disabled by the cylons. Ye may have a point about them not being infected as they were only about to go for an overhaul.



I think the President and the quorm of 12 are going to step in between the 2 ships and a big of reorganising of the command structure will be in order. Though i dont see the Peagasus be around after the next episode or two. Either it'll be destroyed in a attack on\by cylons or it'll leave Galactica to protect the fleet and go back to attacking the cylons.



Also I think there will be a problem with the stealth ship they built. Just before the Chief ran off to save his ex cylon lover he asked where it was gone. When he found out Starbuck took it he went "Oh *****...." Remember the chief from the Pegasus wanted to have a look at it and was saying that he was an aeronautics engineer? he designed the engines and thought they had been fazed out and also wanted to hood. hmmmm.....

seems also the Peagasus drafted any survivors it found. Am surprised that the only person the Galactica got working on it from the civilian population in Baltar.



He was great, ye can see how he is now becoming more and more sympathetic to the cylons since he saw who Preagasus' 6 was treated.



Roll on January!



Oh and can someone post a link to the podcast yer on about??

Haruspex

Scruff wrote:

Oh and can someone post a link to the podcast yer on about??

Here you go...

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/

Scruff

cheers.
I now accept earlier posts explaining why it wasnt taken over by the cylons.
really good podcast!

cant wait for the longer version on the boxset.

iguana

Scruff wrote:

seems also the Peagasus drafted any survivors it found. Am surprised that the only person the Galactica got working on it from the civilian population in Baltar.

He wasn't. They recruited a group of new Viper pilots from the civilian population in Act Of Contrition. (It was also a nifty way for Adama to get his real life son a part in the show. Oh well, I like Hotdog (Bodie Olmos) so I don't mind. )

Talisman

Scruff wrote:

The one thing i wanted asked was how they were not disabled by the cylons. Ye may have a point about them not being infected as they were only about to go for an overhaul.

By reverting to the previous software, the Galactica's vipers became Cylon proof. So presumably the Pegasus hadn't already been kitted out with Baltar and Six's new software and the upgrade would have taken place during the overhaul,

Newshound

If the XO shoots Cain in the head then problem solved. Loads more pilots and ships to have big skirmishes with the cylons.

Could the 6 on the pegasus be Baltars 6 after she left during the attack on caprica.

Syth

Newshound wrote:

Could the 6 on the pegasus be Baltars 6 after she left during the attack on caprica.

It's a possibility, but I don't think it is. We know 'There are many copies', and we've seen some on raganok armery, caprica and one snuck on board in 'six degrees of seperation'.

Sooner or Later

I'd been looking forward to this one for ages, as the Pegasus episode was one of my favourites from the original series. Most of the plot elements have been preserved, apart from the inevitable switching of Kane from a male to a female and her elevation to Admiral - I'm sure Kane was just a Commander in the original. No matter, Michelle Forbes is a lot easier on the eye than Lloyd Bridges.

Interesting to contrast the attitude of the Pegasus crew where there was just military and no one else to that of the Galactica crew who have been softened? humanised? depending on your viewpoint by their constant interaction with civilians.

I was puzzled by the speed of Adama's attitude change but I guess the missing quarter hour explains it.

And the good news is that Sky are showing the other two Pegasus episodes as a double episode on Tuesday night.

Stark

Newshound wrote:

Could the 6 on the pegasus be Baltars 6 after she left during the attack on caprica.

No, Baltar's 6 was killed in the explosion and we see her appearing again in a new body in ep18, "downloaded".

_Kaiser_

Great episode.. Michelle Forbes hasn't done too bad - from Ensign to Admiral in under 10 years Seriously though, thought she was very good in the role.

Nice nod to the original series in the design of the Pegasus as someone else commented, and the cooler, more modern and utilitarian design of her CIC is a good contrast to Galactica.

Roll on part 2 I say. My prediction is that the Pegasus XO will step in and relieve Cain before things get too out of hand (you can see he's not too happy with Cain's order to launch fighters), take command and go off to take on the Cylons in order to give Galactica and the fleet time to escape, thereby preserving the more-or-less same storyline as the original series.

dudara

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, and must admit to not even noticing the music. The contrast in attitudes between the two battlestars set a great tone for the episode.

I agree that Cain being a cylon would be too simplistic, instead I believe that her harshness and coldness is her way of dealing with the way things are.

I'll be in my seat next Tuesday for part 2, and thanks for the link to those podcasts.

Barry Aldwell

Kaiser2000 wrote:

Roll on part 2 I say. My prediction is that the Pegasus XO will step in and relieve Cain before things get too out of hand (you can see he's not too happy with Cain's order to launch fighters), take command and go off to take on the Cylons in order to give Galactica and the fleet time to escape, thereby preserving the more-or-less same storyline as the original series.

Guess again. They've shown more than enough willingness to give 2 fingers to the original storyline in the past

jdwals

Apart from the music at the start of the episode this one was a cracker. Loved it, loved it, loved it. And thank you Sky for showing a double episdode this week - that is so cool!
Acting, pacing, storyline - all superb. Adama and Baltar were on top of their game.
The design of the Pegasus was great as well. Really looks more powerful than Galactica.
One thing got me though. I wonder with Apollo and Starbuck having been sent over to the Pegasus and the Pegasus's own CAG still on Pegasus, who was the Galactica's CAG? Was that mentioned anywhere in the episode?

Cina

jdwals wrote:

One thing got me though. I wonder with Apollo and Starbuck having been sent over to the Pegasus and the Pegasus's own CAG still on Pegasus, who was the Galactica's CAG? Was that mentioned anywhere in the episode?

If I remember correctly (ages since I've seen this!) Apollo and Starbuck were put on the Pegasus because Cain knew they were dangerous from reading the logs and did not want someone like them as CAG of Galactica, she knew it would cause her problems. I think therefore Galactica was left without a CAG

Barry Aldwell

In the final scene, Kat is doing the job of the CAG, coordinating the squadron and communicating with Galactica. Obviously she wouldn't be the most senior pilot, I'd say the writers decided to go with another pilot who the audience would recognise, and who better than one of the nuggets? That means it was either Kat or Hotdog (2 other nuggets were named when Starbuck was training them, but they've both been killed), and Cat's got more screentime so far, so Kat it was

TheNog

i have never seen the originial battlestar but i absolutely love the new version. it is by far the best on tv right now, right up there with 24 and OVer There. Both Stargates are very disappointing this series...

Vokes

Currently making my way through the season 2 DVD. Has anyone watched the extended version of this episode yet? The episode is now a whopping 56 minutes, and is definitely better paced than the original

Some intriguing scenes are included now, for example ....

• A pre-credits sequence in which Starbuck outlines a plan to return to Caprica and rescue the resistance fighters last seen in the episode "The Farm", which is rejected by Adama and Roslin. This sequence, although cut from the original episode, was used in flashbacks and 'story so far' sequences in later episodes.
  
• A discussion between Adama and Roslin which details Cain's biography, namely that she is very young for her rank and achieved it through a combination of skill and good connections. This scene also includes some shots of the Galactica crew's excitement over finding Pegasus.
  
• A conversation between Cain and Adama which reveals technical information on the Pegasus, including the fact that it is a Mercury-class Battlestar and is approximately twice the size of the Galactica with only half the crew, due to greater automation technology.
  
• Additional material featuring the Pegasus deck chief, including the fact that he is being transferred to Galactica to replace Tyrol.

It was weird starting with the new pre-credits scene - thought i was watching a never-before-aired episode

Also, "good connections" would explain why Cain became a Rear Admiral at such a young age.

User45701

Kool i cant wait till i buy the box set next month, im gona wait till my next pay check then i can finanaley afford that HD TV so watch dvd BSG on

Goodshape

SofaKing wrote:

Also, "good connections" would explain why Cain became a Rear Admiral at such a young age.

Nice one, I always thought that could have done with an explantion. Unfortunitly, I've got a DVD set (season 1+2 boxset) but I don't think the extended edition of Pegasus is on it . One of my favourite episodes, so I'm a bit annoyed about that, and the general lack of any extras on the discs altogether.

Hopefully they release a definitive collection once the series ends, and hopefully that's long enough away that I won't mind buying seasons 1+2 again so much.

Overheal

For Cain's bio, what wouldve been the point? The less I know about that ugly whoore the better damn there are some great action sequences after this episode: newbs are in for a treat!