Ballybofey's industrial waste problem continues ?..

Paddy20

muffler,

The link on your post may bring up the Photobucket 'General page' and not an individual photo, if people then look on the 'top left' they will see 'My Album', If they click on this, and scroll downwards, then all of my photos relating to Mulrines can be seen. To enlarge any photo/map simply click twice on the photo/press cutting of choice, to make it readable or easier to see .

My opinion on this whole unprecedented serious issue, is that Donegal County Council knew that Mulrines had purchased the land from Mr Paddy Murphy for 'industrial expansion', and therefore they should not have built the 24 new houses at this location on the Glenfin Road, as Industry and domestic dwellings do not mix !.

The only solution will be, that either Cois na Finn be knocked down and the tenants re-housed, or Mulrines be financially assisted to move to the Letterkenny highway at Drumkeen, this IMHO would be the most sensible solution, as the new Bypass would be at hand for the intercontinental juggernauts, more space/land is available for Industrial expansion, instead of Mulrines having to build more facilities further up the Donegal Road, and EU/Cross border grant aid is available for long established business concerns that employ large numbers of people.

If Mulrines do not move, then they will have to be put out of business. A business without orders will not last long before bankruptcy. Sadly, it is a fact of life that large Industrial manufacturing concerns operating 24/7 can not co-exist beside domestic dwellings/peoples homes.

This is why we have planning laws known as best practice/good neighbour policies which our Local Authority is duty bound to abide by, otherwise they leave themselves open to prosecution for massive damages claims, from their own tenants towards whom they as landlords have a statutory 'duty of care'.

Clearly, in this instance, they have and are not complying with their 'duty of care'.

For that, they will answer before the Courts.



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Paddy20

http://photobucket.com/albums/a327/Paddy20/

Just click on the above link, to see all photos/maps/presscuttings, relating to the Mulrines controversy Then to enlarge to full screen view simply double click, on your choice ! Enjoy BTW; You can even watch a 'Full Screen' slideshow !.

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cgarvey

Paddy20 wrote:

For the record. P Mulrine & Son is a family owned business i.e. it is not even a registered Limited Liability Business

Is Company number 58767 not them?


Shocking stuff that nothing has happened after the lorry/wall collapse. I thought the HSA would have come down on that sort of thing pretty quickly. I don't see any mention of civil action against them, was that ruled out?

.cg

Martyr

cgarvey wrote:

I don't see any mention of civil action against them, was that ruled out?

waste of time.
civil actions in this country that are successful, are a rarity, if not miracle.

i can't see this issue being resolved anytime soon.. unless the council offer to relocate everyone affected, what can be done?

in matters of business, local councillors might voice their concern..you know, to your face, if you complain enough to them.

but..in private, they really couldn't care less.

mulrines provide employment for the town, and thats what counts as far as they're concerned.

mulrines could easily pack up and go somewhere else if they don't get what they want..you have to remember that, they've nothing to lose.

i'm not saying the residents should do nothing.
its unfortunate they have to live with such a facility so close by, and there probably are laws being broken..

what good is a law if your government doesn't enforce it?

many companies flout the rules to make more profits for themselves,
and authorities are well aware of it.

Paddy20

On Mulrines letterhead it states the name as "P Mulrine & Son (No Limited) after the name, which is legally required if it is a properly registered Limited Company .

I am assuming that they have registered the name only as a trading name, and the number refers simply to that. According to my sources of information Mulrines are 'trading' under a 'multitude' of different trading names !.

My neighbour Ms Anne Murphy whose daughter narrowly missed being killed by Mulrines tanker, engaged a Letterkenny based Solicitor to take a civil action against Mulrines & Donegal County Council, and the HSE Environmental Health Officers. He was very keen at the start, and sent a Civil Engineer who specialises in litigation to carry out a survey, he took photos and made measurements etc, he told me verbally that all of Mulrines new development behind Cois na Finn, breached EU planning legislation and he would be giving the Solicitor a full report, upon which legal proceedings would begin.

However, over 1 year later. This Solicitor has not even sent a letter to Mulrines or anyone else. It is clear that somewhere along the line he 'lost interest' for some reason ?...

The saga continues....

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muffler

Paddy20 wrote:

My neighbour Ms Anne Murphy.... engaged a Letterkenny based Solicitor to take a civil action against Mulrines & Donegal County Council, and the HSE Environmental Health Officers.

However, over 1 year later. This Solicitor has not even sent a letter to Mulrines or anyone else. It is clear that somewhere along the line he 'lost interest' for some reason ?...

The saga continues....

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Corruption at its worse Paddy eh!

cgarvey

Ouch .. sit on the solicitor.

The number I gave was a limited company.. you're right they do seem to have a multitude of trading names.. you can get info on directors and all accounts submitted, etc...

http://www.cro.ie/search/

Select "Both" for Search, type in mulrine in "Name:", and you'll see the list, a couple of which are Ltd Companies.

.cg

Paddy20

cgarvey wrote:

Ouch .. sit on the solicitor.

The number I gave was a limited company.. you're right they do seem to have a multitude of trading names.. you can get info on directors and all accounts submitted, etc...

http://www.cro.ie/search/

Select "Both" for Search, type in mulrine in "Name:", and you'll see the list, a couple of which are Ltd Companies.

.cg

cg,

Very many thanks for that link and info, it could prove invaluable.

My own approach on the legal front is different to my neighbours. As I am registered disabled, I qualify for full legal aid, and the whole matter now appears to be heading for the European Court of human Rights, even though it apparently will have to go through some of the Irish Courts, before it can be heard there.

Average Joe is correct in his view about civil action being taken by Joe Public against business concerns, it is practically impossible to obtain true justice outside of Europe. I am pushing my legal representative, who is pushing the Barristers to go for a criminal case against a number of parties, but it is taking forever. So, I am also dealing with a government agency who are investigating how Donegal County Council etc, allowed this unprecedented
Environmental disaster to happen, and there are now quite a few very worried 'Civil Servants' in Donegal, who may soon be looking for new careers, if not at four prison cell walls?...

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paddy21

Hi All,

Just a quick question! A little bird tells me Paddy20 takes the photos standing on the wall at mulrines.
So I ask the little bird to get me a photo of this and low and behold he is standing on it.

***Edited by Muffler "Personal issues should remain so and not posted here" ***

As a neighbour of paddys, Yes Mulrines can be annoying but we have to put up with it, I cant afford to build my own home so I took what was on offer. Sometimes I wonder if the council did not provide me with this accomadation where would I be. I cannot afford to choose where I live so I make the best of it.

I just wish all this aggro would stop.
And just for the record Mulrines Factory was here before many of the houses in the area and its address read Donegal road not Glenfinn. Also Mulrines are expanding again by building a new plant on the Donegal road. So much for going bust. I here they have landed two more huge uk based contracts, maybe more trucks in the yard but so is the price of progress.

Dave:(

Paddy20

If you want to know any private details about my health, at least have the decency to call and see me'Privately', I have nothing too hide, especially from neighbours.

I look forward to meeting you 'face to face'

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jimmycrackcorm

I will start buying Kulana now that I know it is an Irish product.

paddy21

Let me say, I am glad to see development in Ballybofey and especially in a local buisness. When we look at all the America companies coming here and after 10-29 years closing down it is good to see a company that was est in 1919 Ireland still on the go. It has survived partition of the country, civil war, the depressions of 20's 40's 50's when we had forced emigration, it survived the Lemass 60's the 70's and 80's of rising and falling of goverments the joining of the E.E.C. the Celtic Tiger, the EU long may it contuine to provide the local economy with jobs directly an indirectly. Yes it may be hard to live around it, but so is the price of modern living, having lived under a flight path at Heathrow, Mulrines is like a car ticking over, annoying but it will go away after a while.

Regards
Paddy21:D

jimmycrackcorm

Did the council not give this guy his house or was it private?

Paddy20

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

Did the council not give this guy his house or was it private?

Try reading the complete thread ? :rolleyes: All you need to know is in the posts!.If you were to use your eyes, instead of asking inane questions

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Paddy20

paddy21 wrote:

Let me say, Mulrines is like a car ticking over, annoying but it will go away after a while.

Regards
Paddy21:D

So, Mr anonymous "paddy21", I and hundreds of other local's would love to know how you know that " Mulrines will go away after a while ?... you could save me a lot of work ?.. If you could please answer your own statement .

I also note that you have declined to come and talk to me on a "Face to Face" basis ?.. I would like to know know why you used 'paddy21' as your handle, but did not put anything in your 'personal profile'.

The same invitation is also extended to:jmmycrackcorm who is also not one for putting any info in his personal profile.

Two pea's in a pod EH!

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muffler

Keep it civil now. This thread is about an alleged industrial waste problem and certainly not about individuals

nanook

paddy 20, easy tiger.

It is not something yoiu have to do in filling in yoiur personal info.

Paddy 21 is a new poster while jimmycrackcorn has almost 400.

Lets stick to the topic in hand. Ballybofeys industrail waste problem continues.

Lets stick to the discussion in hand.

Just a note, anymore personal attacks and we can give you a week holiday. Lets talk, argue, rant and shout but please lets not attack each other.


cheers


Nanook

nanook

muffler, great mods think a like

jimmycrackcorm

Paddy20 wrote:

Try reading the complete thread ? :rolleyes: All you need to know is in the posts!.If you were to use your eyes, instead of asking inane questions

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Well I did read the thread all over again just to find out that it is a council house. My point being that if the council gave you a free house then I don't think you have as much of a case as if you bought private. I'd feel myself that the weight bears more down on the the commercial adantages to Ballybofey.

I know that I wouldn't like something to have mulrines in my back garden either but I have made my choice and have found employment outside my natvie Donegal to ensure that I don't have to live in a similar situation.

I think I'd not complain as much if I was given a council house instead back home.

jimmycrackcorm

Paddy20 wrote:

So, Mr anonymous "paddy21", I and hundreds of other local's would love to know how you know that " Mulrines will go away after a while ?... you could save me a lot of work ?.. If you could please answer your own statement .

I also note that you have declined to come and talk to me on a "Face to Face" basis ?.. I would like to know know why you used 'paddy21' as your handle, but did not put anything in your 'personal profile'.

The same invitation is also extended to:jmmycrackcorm who is also not one for putting any info in his personal profile.

Two pea's in a pod EH!

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Why bother use handles if everyone could use their actual names? So why post personal information? I think there are more than two peas in board if you start to look at peoples profiles.

I'll decline your invitation as my time is more precious when I do get to go home to be wasted going to Ballybofey.

I don't wish this to come across as a personal attack but I read the thread ( twice now) and I think you have failures in your arguments which is why I might not take you so seriously...

* I think that parts of this thread could belong in the conspiracy theories forum - things about the Gardai and the council chemist kept waiting and so on.

* Are you the only one in your estate complaining about this - why is it you who pushes the media end - are you part of an local action group?.


This whole thing sounds like a crusade mixed with a hobby.

Paddy20

jimmycrackcorm & paddy21,

I am now placing both of you on my 'ignore list', as I do not consider your posts worthy of a considered response from me, as I would have too tell you both what I really think of you, and a 'personal attack' would occur.

So, post away, and ask your questions, but you will not be receiving any replies from me.

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jimmycrackcorm

I don't think that Ballybofey has an industrial waste problem. This is a case of N.I.M.B.Y.

esskay

I have been inside the mulrines factory and as far as I am concerned if they can afford a robotic pallet packing system (a job young fellas normally have) that cost millions they should be able to clean up whatever comes out of the factory. The place is a dump and the waste treatement plant is the most run-down part of the place. And if the effluent is polluting the river what is going in to their juices??? imho the just don't give a damn as long as the profit is rolling in, and it is.

Paddy20

esskay wrote:

I have been inside the mulrines factory and as far as I am concerned if they can afford a robotic pallet packing system (a job young fellas normally have) that cost millions they should be able to clean up whatever comes out of the factory. The place is a dump and the waste treatement plant is the most run-down part of the place. And if the effluent is polluting the river what is going in to their juices??? imho the just don't give a damn as long as the profit is rolling in, and it is.

Nice to see a post from someone, who has seen the reality of this monstrous injustice against local residents, from someone who has obviously seen the reality from the inside:) .

Mulrines have received millions in 'hand outs/grants from the EU coffers, but I doubt the officials authorising the grant aid to them, were made aware that this money would be used to destroy the local environment and the quality of life of 'innocent' local residents.

Donegal County Council's planning procedures have recently been shown up for the unprofessional manner in which this department is being managed, but rest assured there is more to come, and heads will roll .

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jimmycrackcorm

esskay wrote:

I have been inside the mulrines factory and as far as I am concerned if they can afford a robotic pallet packing system (a job young fellas normally have) that cost millions they should be able to clean up whatever comes out of the factory. The place is a dump and the waste treatement plant is the most run-down part of the place. And if the effluent is polluting the river what is going in to their juices??? imho the just don't give a damn as long as the profit is rolling in, and it is.

I don't think you can equate what is coming out with what is going in any more that you can equate what comes out of your backside with what you eat!

If there is an effluent problem then how come the council don't pick it up with their environmental checks?

Paddy20

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

If there is an effluent problem then how come the council don't pick it up with their environmental checks?

News from 'Finn Valley Voice' 21st June 2006.

Mulrine's discharge case for July ?..

A case taken by Donegal County Council against the Balllybofey firm of P. Mulrine & Son, relating to the release of untreated waste into the main sewer network, will be heard at Letterkenny District Court on July 14th.

And Director of Water Services Mr Jim Holohan warns that the Council will be looking to recover "very serious costs" due to a recent overload of the system.

"The situation got completely out of hand over the bank holiday weekend - we incurred very serious costs while trying to correct the problems at the treatment plant beside Stranorlar Mart " Mr Holohan said.

The illegal discharges from Mulrine's have overloaded the modern plant at Stranorlar on more than one occasion, causing a foul smell over the town. Mr Holohan also says that the discharges have polluted the River Finn which is a Special Area of Conservation.

A spokesman for Mulrine's was unavailable for comment.

End of story.`

Comment from Paddy20 "No personal comment needed from me"

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