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Time For A New Amp? I think so...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    feylya wrote:
    Pfft, you're not thinking broad enough. You want a 15 string banjo, with octave strings for the highest 7 and one low string without.

    You're on to something there. Personally I want a trombone with resonant strings.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Damn it, I had an idea on the bus yesterday that I wanted to patent. Now I can't remember it.

    By the way, if anyone has any recommendations for amps, let's hear em!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    feylya wrote:
    Damn it, I had an idea on the bus yesterday that I wanted to patent. Now I can't remember it.
    Probably something to stop fat, smelly, crazy people sitting beside you...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Nope. There was only 6 people on this bus and it was Dublin to Dundalk at half ten in the morning. Lovely stuff. Only a fiver too.

    Anyway, amps and stuff, yeah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    u've wanted the randall for ages man go wit it...or aflextone III


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Ah jaysus, where would I get a Flextone III for €600 though?... :D

    Yeah, might be the Randall. Want to check all my options though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    What about this Laney?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Or this one?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Not tube and I'd prefer to stay away from onboard effects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    ****, I thought it said it was tube. Curse my tired eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    onboard effects in my experience have meant a dodgy channel or eq somewhere along the line..somethings gotta give


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    More components, more chance of something going BOOM!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Buy another six microcubes and plug your guitar into them all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    not a bad idea tbh can't have too much of a good thing :p..just get a gmajor fey :p


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Oooh, now that's an idea :D
    jcoote wrote:
    not a bad idea tbh can't have too much of a good thing :p..just get a gmajor fey :p

    TBH, the idea of getting a preamp (Pod or something) and running that into a stereo power amp and a stereo cab has crossed my mind. Could use the GT-8 as a preamp and Midi controller for future upgradingness.

    Also, pop into Music Maker. They have a gorgeous rack with a Korg rack tuner, jmp1, g-major, g-force, rocktron chameleon (I think) and a 20/20 Marhsall power amp :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    :eek: holy **** i'm goin in now thats a whopper ig...did u try iy???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    feylya wrote:
    TBH, the idea of getting a preamp (Pod or something) and running that into a stereo power amp and a stereo cab has crossed my mind. Could use the GT-8 as a preamp and Midi controller for future upgradingness.

    That sounds too complicated for me. But then anything more than a combo with a few effects in front of it sounds complicated to me.

    EDIT: Ooh yeah! 69th post, the sexy post!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    jcoote wrote:
    :eek: holy **** i'm goin in now thats a whopper ig...did u try iy???

    Didn't get a chance. I was too busy creaming my pants :p

    Ah, it's really not complicated John. One button to change lots of things. Very cool imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    midi is better than the wheel in invention terms its savage...no rig is to complex imo its all good


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    I can see its uses for guitars and stuff but I'm very old fashioned when it comes to midi. I like to keep my guitar as standard and hands on as possible (i.e. fiddling with knobs mid song/riff) and using midi for my electronic part of my rig like drum machines and samplers.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I think you might be slightly confused. We're not talking about using midi to create sounds, we're saying use midi to send signals to your effects and amps to change sound. Apologies if I'm misunderstanding you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    I think our wires are slightly crossed ;)

    What I mean about midi for my stuff is that you use a sequencer to slave the other machines from, so you set when they go off. Midi isn't for making the sound, just for telling the various intruments when to fire.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Aye, that's what I was saying :p

    1.30am is not the time to be talking about MIDI ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    No, it really isn't. It's time to be looking at amps.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Mmm, the warm glow of a tube. Looks like the Randall is winning at the moment :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    But for how long?

    You have me looking at Fallen Angels now btw.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Until someone comes along and gives me a free amp ;)

    Yeah, I seem to have that effect on people :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    You say it like it's a bad thing


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    It is when those people's money starts disappearing into their credit card accounts :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    John2 wrote:
    But for how long?

    You have me looking at Fallen Angels now btw.
    Dont tell Dr J, but they suck balls...and here was me thinking he was the one discerning guitarist in this sea of kiddies.... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    I don't know, I like what I've heard from them. I keep changing my mind about what I want amp wise, one minute I'm Fender Twin Reverb/Vox AC30, the next I'm looking at Fallen Angels and dreaming of Mesas. Maybe I should get them all?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Dont tell Dr J, but they suck balls...and here was me thinking he was the one discerning guitarist in this sea of kiddies.... ;)
    In fairness, there's knowing gear and there's gear snobbery. People say ENGL's suck, others say Mesa's suck, other's say Fender's suck. It's all personal opinion. Why anyone would like Diamond Darrells tone is beyond me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    "trust your ears and not your peers"
    lol...forums like these are great for weeding out amps that are unreliable etc., but at the end of the day youre dead right, you have to play the damn thing... One guy might think one amp is the bees knees, whereas someone else will think it sounds lifeless and hollow.

    Which is unfortunate, becuase most places in this country just play it safe with the usual Fender and marshalls...And even then, some guitar shops get narky when you crank an amp up....

    EDIT: Personal opinion still counts of course...if five guys say an amp rocks and five say it sucks, then its probably worth checking out, but if nine out of ten say it sucks....

    Also, how many people do you know will spend serious money on something, and then admit that it is rubbish? Not a lot, which is why I never pay any heed to Harmony-central etc. because even the shi*ttest things always get great reviews...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    And you know exactly what you do if they get narky. You take your money else where. Simple as.

    Fortunately these days, you can do loads of research on the internet before buying and even if the amp isn't exactly as you thought it would be, you'll more than likely be able to get a usable tone from the thing. Might have to use a pedal or two though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    feylya wrote:
    And you know exactly what you do if they get narky. You take your money else where. Simple as.

    Yeah, but it would be great though if you could go one place, and try a Mesa, and a ENGL, and a THD, and a Cornford, and whatever ever else, you know? I guess the internet just has us spoilt...
    Its a pity though, i really feel sorry for kids who go into waltons or somewhere and the idiot behind the counter recommends an epiphone through a Mg10...there really isnt enough choice in this country...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Jesus, a boutique amp dealer in Ireland would be great. Over 21s only ;)

    In fairness, what set up did you start with? I had (and still have) an Epiphone strat and a 15W Ibanez amp with a Zoom 505-II. An MG would have been great back then! I know one guy who uses ESPs and Gibson through a Mesa rectoverb and a Road King and he still loves the distortion from an MG :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    But, the thing is, at any price range, there are things that are pure junk, and things that are very well made. And unfortunately, whatever is on the shelves is what will sell. Forget about opinion and personal taste etc.. but a MG10dfx is pure junk, I know because my brother got one a couple of years ago, and you can get a roland cube for the same money i think. Same goes for epiphone etc. I hate to sound like a snob, but I wouldnt spit on an epiphone, they are very badly made, but kids are 'forced' into buying them because of a lack of alternatives.....Ypu go into any guitar shop and thats all they have. I wonder how may kids bought a guitar and gave up because their gear was lifeless and uninspiring...

    I have to say fair play to anyone who looks abroad, like the guy who ordered a tokai here recently....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭pbsuxok1znja4r


    Hey I'm in the market for a new amp and hoping someone here could help advise me. I'm looking for something at least 100 watts or more. I play an ESP with two humbuckers and I generally play metal/hardcore music (i.e. Thrice, Refused, Metallica). I'm looking for something with a great high-gain sound for lots of palm-muted riffage, etc. I don't ask much of my clean channel, and I rarely play solos anymore.
    - It must have 2 channels (with seperate volumes/EQs etc for each) w/ footswitch directly into amp. I don't want to buy a seperate OD pedal or anything so I'm looking for quite a good OD channel that is easily switchable to/from, etc
    - I'm limited to around €450 at a stretch.
    I'm not big into effects, I generally hvae a fairly straight-up sound, for me, it's as Zakk Wylde said; "There are only 2 sounds - clean and dirty!", so I'm not too worried about the reverb or anything.
    I'd like something I could gig with, somewhere not too far down the line, so that footswitch is all-important for me!
    I've been checking out a used Fender RocPro 1000 (100w) @ €300, but I've yet to play it myself, and the reviews on hamony-centeral etc are confoundingly contradictory!
    If anyone can recommend me anything at all I'd be grateful. Thanks.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    And I would say that if you got an Epiphone Custom and maybe upgraded the pots, you'd have a guitar to rivel low end Gibsons. I've played Gibsons and Fenders and thought they were boring as hell. I've played Epiphones and Squiers and suffered horrible GAS ;) Perhaps it's an exception to the rule but some of these Korean guitars are approaching seriously good quality. Ibanez for example. Paying a high price does not guarantee high quality.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I've been checking out a used Fender RocPro 1000 (100w) @ €300,

    You just answered your own question. Ask Doctor J.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Flick through an American or Japanese magazine though...how many manufacuters do you come across? Of course, most of them could be junk, but having that kind of choice without going to the internet would be nice. I went looking for a peavey wolfgang a couple of years ago, and Waltons were a peavey dealer, they had the Bandits etc. but the guy said they couldnt get a peavey guitar beacuse Rosetti (or whoever the gibson distributors are), wouldnt be happy if they started stocking a larger range of guitars...
    This story is 100% true, at the time I had a good friend who worked there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Dont tell Dr J, but they suck balls...and here was me thinking he was the one discerning guitarist in this sea of kiddies.... ;)

    Hmmmm... you're sure you weren't plugged into a Valvestate and mistakenly twiddling the knobs on the Fallen Angel? Hungover or something ;)

    I find it hard to believe you couldn't get a good tone out of one. They are a nice sounding amp, for sure. His brother has one too and I've done too many gigs with them for the good tone to be a fluke.

    Still think you should sort out a top guitar first Fey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Doctor J wrote:
    Hmmmm... you're sure you weren't plugged into a Valvestate and mistakenly twiddling the knobs on the Fallen Angel? Hungover or something ;)

    Haha, maybe. Well. youre so adamant that its a good amp I may reavaluate my opinion of it next time im in town, but shhh!, we want him to get a randall, so we can see if theyre any good... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    To be entirely fair, after reading up on the Fallen Angels, it seems that the first run were quite unrelyable, but that the later models are far more stable and relyable.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    My good Doctor, a quality instrument has been budgeted for but that's for a different topic. First off, I must sell my Fender. Check the FS Music Equipment section for a topic soon ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    feylya wrote:
    My good Doctor, a quality instrument has been budgeted for but that's for a different topic. First off, I must sell my Fender. Check the FS Music Equipment section for a topic soon ;)

    Fey, does this look like off thread dealing to you? :p

    Voodoo_Child, yeah I'd say give it another shot. The lads' amps sound sweet to me and definitely not in a Nu-Metal or other too-distorted way. They play blues with a few Lizzy tunes thrown in for good measure, so they're giving it clean, lightly overdriven and healthily distorted and I have to be honest, I like what I hear. They're exceptionally loud amps too, though that's not always a good thing...


    ...says the bass player :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Yeah, ban that bollox :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Doctor J wrote:
    though that's not always a good thing...

    You lie!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    You lie!

    Yes, it must be an imposter Doctor. It's a scientifically proven fact that everything sounds better at greater volumes.*















    *this is a lie


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