Supporting Metallica - Am i the last one left?

Motley Crue

Im writing this because im sick and tired of people slagging metallica, im absolutely pissed off about the amount of abuse this band takes. I can understand that compared to their original 3 albums, Metallica are a different band, but theyve been that evolving band since the start. Ride the Lightning was softer and more complex then Kill Em All, the Black album was more commerical then And Justice for All, Reload and Load were experimental and S&M was orchestral. Everything Metallica have done has been a risk, and I for one support them, a band who dont just realise the same crap on every album every 3 or 4 years. I dont care if the last record sold 3 to 4 million copies, or 100 million copies, change is good!

And just one more thing, to all those who keep attacking Metallica and slagging them again and again and again, if you really hate the band, dont turn up to their gigs and dont buy their records and leave their real fans alone. at 60 euro a ticket and thousands in attendance, metallica cant have pulled a 'fluke crowd' 2 yrs running.

Cant wait to see them in the simpsons.

merlinsmerryman

I for one will agree with that completly amazing band who helped define a genre with absolute classic albums, belting live shows and for a band to still be selling out tour after tour for well over 20 years especially after all that went wrong(Cliff's death, Newstead leaving addictions and Ulrich's personal vendetta against napster) is a testament to their popularity and longevity.

Doctor J

I don't think anyone slags them because they changed, good bands always evolve, they refuse to stagnate. Progression is the key to any quality outfit. The problem with Metallica is their last album is just poor quality music, by anyone's standard (even Lars' dad thought so). Assembled in Pro Tools by cutting segments of jams together it is disjointed and lacks focus. The riffs generally follow the same drop-tuned open, 3rd fret, 5th fret, 6th fret generic metal riff patterns for folks who've lost their inspiration (I believe Lars calls it "stock"). I can listen to all kinds of crap but I've yet to make it through stanger in one go. Their drummer can't play the old stuff (try and count all the missing beats from the live stuff on the Unnamed Feeling live tracks) as Newsted lamented when he left because he just doesn't bother practising anymore and their lead guitarist wasn't allowed play leads on the ****ing album because they were dated at the time (which, as he correctly pointed out, dated it to that time). ****, even my Ma called them pathetic after seeing some of the documentary.

I think the problem a lot of people have, and the resaon they get so much stick, is that their first four albums especially were daring, bold, adventurous, inventive works of genius. Anyone who really loved those albums (I include myself here) finds it hard to come to terms with what the band have ended up as. The Black Album was intentionally commercial, that's fine, they still hadn't lost their roots but then they went through a phase where it seemed they were almost embarrassed of their legacy. Their lyrics lost their relevance to the point of bing almost group gibberish on stanger. Their playing has lost the fire that used to be so enthralling. The gigs are just choreographed productions more suited to a hotel in Vegas(Cunning Stunts anyone?) where every note used to be delivered with conviction. They used to be the very best, now they are little more than a Spinal Tap parody.

And, no, I haven't gone to a gig of theirs since 1992. That isn't likely to change. That doesn't make me happy, I take no satisfaction from it, it's ****ing tragic. I will continue to bemoan what they have become, only out of respect for what they once were.

BTW - Ride The Lightning softer than Kill Em All? Heard Fight Fire With Fire and Trapped Under Ice lately?

cournioni

I hate them because they are song stealers.

BrokenArrows

PORNAPSTER wrote:

I hate them because they are song stealers.

Why do you call them song stealers?

Doctor J

Worms. Can of. Opening.

feylya

I still support them. I like pretty much everything they've done, even the stuff they did with Ja Rule (but I ****ing hate Ja Rule's contribution!). Strangely, I rank Kill Em All as one of my least favourite albums although I do love the KEA stuff done with their current live sound.

merlinsmerryman

PORNAPSTER wrote:

I hate them because they are song stealers.

Exactly what songs did they steal and from who?

Cungi

F*ckin love every album they released and i've seen them them live 3 times. Each time amazing.

Jonny Arson

IMO a completely bland band who are the Coldplay of the Metal genre.

One other thing..... Napster! :mad:

OLDYELLAR

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

IMO a completely bland band who are the Coldplay of the Metal genre.

One other thing..... Napster! :mad:

OH JESUS CHRIST DO NOT COMPARE THEM TO COLDPLAY!!!JESUS CHRIST!!

metallica are brilliant , Im delighted Lars stood up for what he belived in with that napster thing , love metallica.

Tiriel

Still love them.. always will.

Baggio

I dunno,
..dont know much about em apart from the obvious,,, apart that their well liked and well hated...maybe a lot of so called "music" fans are more fickle than theyll admit. I did borrow one cd of theirs once it was the live one with the orchestra...well surprise surprise I actually enjoyed that, but made the point to my pal that I thought their music (that kind of metal stuff) needed an orchestra to lift the mood and give their music life/air. Well thats what I thought.
I've heard much about Lars getting lazy etc with drumming thats A NO NO!!.... but other than that know little of the changes in the band , but as the good Doc has said, I applaud bands who change and adapt to the times, while holding onto their deffinitive flavour shall we say..my 2 fave bands are around years because of this..no Rush fans or Jethro Tull fans snear or geer those bands, coz they know their still top notch players and on top of their game even thru all the changes in music.
The napster thing?? I presume lars gave out socks about the downloadng etc of albums etc??...well I'd have to say he was right!!..if any of us alledged musicians made it in the morning and found our music getting downloaded in thousands and we getting nothing from it...would we not object?!??....ok the record and music industry here are a robbing shower of bastards....but the artists are entitled to their due. When the last studio/comeback Rush album *Vapor Trails* was released in 2002 their was massive anticipation and masive downloading!!,,something like 600,000 in a couple of hours after release time,and the 3 boys went mad..,they were right!!! TRUE fans should support their band ,,as Alex Lifeson Rush's guitarist put it : " I dont expect to go to your workplace and receive everything for nothing"!....is a valid point for sure...
so Lars? : Im with him on that one,,,(even tho Neil Peart has ulrich munchies for breakfast everyday!!..hhahhahhha)

ciao' amigos....Baggio.....

Gazza22

Ah Metallica are great...they do take alot of abuse but they are still going strong and deserve to be.

They get my support too

John

I could dig their shtick up as far as Load. Reload wasn't the best, wasn't an awful album but the cracks were beginning to show. A poor album of covers confirmed my beliefs. They made up lost ground with S&M but it wasn't enough. Everything after that has been horrendously bad. For a band that was at one stage cutting edge and genre defining they are now as the Doc said a parody of themselves. If you like what they're doing now fair enough but for me Metallica died a long time ago and their corpses are dancing to someone else's tune.

silenoz

Here's an intelligent reply: Lars is a tool.

Seriously though, they've gone to ****. They were great but I don't know what they've turned into now. I think it's a pity they stuck with Lars, the music was always so good apart from his terrible drum work...

rainbow kirby

They were one of my gateway bands into metal, mostly listening to their older stuff. I've since moved on, but I still like to listen to them every now and then.

billsteersnose

Yes, Metallica are a fantastic band. They've pushed out the boundaries of heavy music since day one. The thing that I will never be able to come to terms with though, is why they made that feckin film... Were they TRYING to make people squirm in their seats as they watched? Dreadful. Releasing that film, truly was a Spinal Tap moment for Metallica... I felt like I wanted to kick the piss out of James for being a big girl. But, hey, I still paid my money to go and see it...

Civilian_Target

Metallica have their moments. Sure, St. Anger is shít but no-one's forcing you to listen to it! They've produced some of the finest metal out there and they deserve the credit for that. They also deserve much of the criticism for some of the ****e they've produced - but every band throws up duff stuff now and again, the Beatles did and no-one thinks less of them for it...

Motley Crue

Metallica produced a video in 1990-92 called A Year and A Half in the Life Of.. has anyone ever seen this? This video, which I got recently in a charity shop, is 1000000000 million times better than Some Kind of Monster, and i honestly have to say that the band looked so cool there!

Also, in 1992, Jason celebrates his 22nd birthday with the band. Thats from his own mouth. That would make him 35 this year, and it would also mean he was 17.5 to 18 when he joined metallica and only 13 when their first album was released! That is crazy!!!!!

munky

Their later albums may not be great (IMO)but nobody does a live show like em!I aint been in a pit that rock as hard as when they played whiskey!

blastman

OLDYELLAR wrote:

OH JESUS CHRIST DO NOT COMPARE THEM TO COLDPLAY!!!JESUS CHRIST!!

metallica are brilliant , Im delighted Lars stood up for what he belived in with that napster thing , love metallica.

Lars stood up for what the record company believed in,more likely....

I was a fan in the early days, but the whole Napster thing turned me off the band permanently. I have refused to spend any money on their albums/gigs since then. Good move, Lars!

Doctor J

Motley Crue wrote:

Metallica produced a video in 1990-92 called A Year and A Half in the Life Of.. has anyone ever seen this?

There are two videos, one which covers the recording and release of the Black album and the second one covers the subsequent tour where they became absolutely huge. TBH I wouldn't say it's better or worse than SKOM, it's just fascinating for those who weren't aware of the band at that time to see where they came from (in the opposite sense from me where I knew where they came from and was fascinated to see where they went in SKOM ). The difference in band is amazing, both in character and musically.

I think it's a lot easier for people who got into Metallica in the last 10 years to get into the earlier stuff than it is for those of us who got into them back in the 80's to reconcile with the new stuff.

Ancient1

Motley Crue wrote:

Also, in 1992, Jason celebrates his 22nd birthday with the band. Thats from his own mouth. That would make him 35 this year

Ha! He wishes. He was obviously being sarcastic, coz he was born in '63.

OLDYELLAR

blastman wrote:

Lars stood up for what the record company believed in,more likely....

I was a fan in the early days, but the whole Napster thing turned me off the band permanently. I have refused to spend any money on their albums/gigs since then. Good move, Lars!

I think I got more respect for Lars after that actually.

It wasn't me!

Doctor J wrote:

There are two videos, one which covers the recording and release of the Black album and the second one covers the subsequent tour where they became absolutely huge. TBH I wouldn't say it's better or worse than SKOM, it's just fascinating for those who weren't aware of the band at that time to see where they came from (in the opposite sense from me where I knew where they came from and was fascinated to see where they went in SKOM ). The difference in band is amazing, both in character and musically.

I think it's a lot easier for people who got into Metallica in the last 10 years to get into the earlier stuff than it is for those of us who got into them back in the 80's to reconcile with the new stuff.

I only got inot them two or three years ago, along wiht most music, and I can't listen to their later stuff. The earlier stuff has too much going for it. I'd give so much to have seen them on early tours. Never forget how lucky you are to have done that Doc.

Doctor J

It wasn't me! wrote:

I'd give so much to have seen them on early tours. Never forget how lucky you are to have done that Doc.

How could I, I enjoy rubbing it in everyone's (especially dabhoys and KH) faces too much!!!

Ahh seriously though, you can see tomorrows legends today in a **** venue somewhere. Honestly, this year I've seen Mastodon and Nevermore who I respect greatly and look forward to seeing again in the years to come. Mastodon were supporting Slayer and Nevermore played ****ing Whelans FFS. They're two bands putting out really superior quality Metal and being largely ignored just like Metallica or Megadeth used to be (ok Mastodon seem to finally be getting places but I tell you now Nevermore are ****ing incredible. Check them out). Plus there are plently of local bands out there with huge potential playing to largely empty venues every night of the week. I wish people would take more of a risk and check out more bands on small labels. Quality Metal didn't stop being made after 1989.

mickymg2003

Personally i don't slag metallica i just slag that disaster of a album that was St. Anger and i still think the older stuff will always remain classic.The only beef i have with the band themselves is with lars because for some reason the guy just irritates me!!!

Beekay

I've only gotten into them since '03.And i love them,M.O.P. is just awesome. all first four albums get a 9.5 out of 10 for me.The Black album would get a 6 or 7.
But there is no way i would willingly(sp??) listen to anything past the black album.I did buy St.Anger but i was young and didn't know about the good stuff....

Doctor J wrote:

How could I, I enjoy rubbing it in everyone's (especially dabhoys and KH) faces too much!!!

Ahh seriously though, you can see tomorrows legends today in a **** venue somewhere. Honestly, this year I've seen Mastodon and Nevermore who I respect greatly and look forward to seeing again in the years to come. Mastodon were supporting Slayer and Nevermore played ****ing Whelans FFS. They're two bands putting out really superior quality Metal and being largely ignored just like Metallica or Megadeth used to be (ok Mastodon seem to finally be getting places but I tell you now Nevermore are ****ing incredible. Check them out). Plus there are plently of local bands out there with huge potential playing to largely empty venues every night of the week. I wish people would take more of a risk and check out more bands on small labels. Quality Metal didn't stop being made after 1989.

Damn you Doctor J.........


Thanks for the Nevermore tip.I checked out their free downloads on their website.And they are savage so far.The music is great,im not sure about the vocals,but i also wasn't sure about the vocals of Kill 'Em all and Ride The Lightning when i first heard them but now i love them.....Thanks anyway,im gonna have to get my hands on an album,Which one would be best?

Doctor J

Any of the last three are solid gold man, Dead Heart In A Dead World, Enemies Of Reality and the new one This Godless Endeavour. You can get a remixed, remastered version of Enemies Of Reality on centurymedia.co.uk for £5. DHIADW would be my own personal favourite though

It wasn't me!

Doctor J wrote:

How could I, I enjoy rubbing it in everyone's (especially dabhoys and KH) faces too much!!!

Ahh seriously though, you can see tomorrows legends today in a **** venue somewhere. Honestly, this year I've seen Mastodon and Nevermore who I respect greatly and look forward to seeing again in the years to come. Mastodon were supporting Slayer and Nevermore played ****ing Whelans FFS. They're two bands putting out really superior quality Metal and being largely ignored just like Metallica or Megadeth used to be (ok Mastodon seem to finally be getting places but I tell you now Nevermore are ****ing incredible. Check them out). Plus there are plently of local bands out there with huge potential playing to largely empty venues every night of the week. I wish people would take more of a risk and check out more bands on small labels. Quality Metal didn't stop being made after 1989.

Stop reminding me! I missed that Slayer gig as well. I always like hearing new music. Funds tend to prohibit hearing a tenth as much as I'd like to though. Sigh. I'd have liked to hear Nevermore as well, but was in Whelans, so I almost certainly wouldn't have gotten in anyway.

Mr. Brownstone

Metallica are true living legends. They may have lost their way on certain things and made some mistakes but in a career that spans over 20years and counting, it's expected. They've been top of the pile in metal since 'Puppets' and people have always waited for the slightest thing to criticise them over.
Like the Simpsons thing they're just joining a long list of musicians to appear on one of the worlds most loved T.V shows like Aerosmith, Smashing Pumpkins, the Stones and many more.
They're music has always evolved on each album which I think is excellent as it keeps expanding their sound. It also makes it hard to find two 'Tallica albums that sound the same(bare the Load sessions) which differs them from most of the metal pack.
Metallica wil alsosurpass ''flavour of the month'' trends and bands Like ''Hair rock'', ''Grunge'', ''Brit-Pop''. Most bands will not be remembered in 20years never mind still be around.
Metallica have more than earned respect from every musician,music fan and especially metal fans.
Next time some thinks about slagging them of they should think about the first time they heard the intro riff to 'Seek and destroy' or the bass solo from 'Orion' or the excitement that fills the metal world when a Metallica album is on the brink of been released.

And all you Metallica critics who bad mouth the band 'METAL UP YOUR ASS'!

John

Mr. Brownstone wrote:

Metallica are true living legends. They may have lost their way on certain things and made some mistakes but in a career that spans over 20years and counting, it's expected. They've been top of the pile in metal since 'Puppets' and people have always waited for the slightest thing to criticise them over.

I don't call a slew of awful recordings "the slightest thing". What about Iron Maiden, Motorhead, King Crimson and The Melvins? They've all been going at least for 20 years (many more for most of them) and they have kept far more artistic integrity than Metallica. They all rock as hard as they used to without pandering to fads (St Anger could have been written by any second rate nu metal band).

They're music has always evolved on each album which I think is excellent as it keeps expanding their sound. It also makes it hard to find two 'Tallica albums that sound the same(bare the Load sessions) which differs them from most of the metal pack.

Yes it did change, not hugely significantly and not always for the best.

Metallica wil alsosurpass ''flavour of the month'' trends and bands Like ''Hair rock'', ''Grunge'', ''Brit-Pop''. Most bands will not be remembered in 20years never mind still be around.

Of course they will, that's the very nature of fad bands, they are just a fad. And it's sad that Metallica have shat on their own legacy. Instead of bowing out gracefully they have chosen to continue and have shown themselves up.

Metallica have more than earned respect from every musician,music fan and especially metal fans.

Metallica up as far as Load deserve respect. After that (and barring S&M as I said earlier) they lost all respect from me. I'd much rather listen to bands that are pushing the boundaries and keeping things fresh like Mastodon, Neurosis, SunnO))), Khanate, Opeth and Fantomas.

Necronomicon

Early Metallica albums are still among my favourite. I find the new stuff listenable to be honest...I might be swayed by the fact that they blew me away live, and I do think they are still up there with the best of them in terms of putting on a show. I find that songs you think are 'alright' become unreal when you're having one hell of a time in a huge crowd with a brilliant atmosphere.

Doctor J wrote:

Honestly, this year I've seen Mastodon and Nevermore who I respect greatly and look forward to seeing again in the years to come.

Unfortunately it was Mastodon's performance that got me really into Mastodon, so I can't even remember their setlist Wish I could go back and see them but be at this stage of loving them. Ah well, they most certainly have a long, fruitful career ahead of them, can't wait to see them again.

tj-music.com

Motley Crue wrote:

im sick and tired of people slagging metallica, im absolutely pissed off about the amount of abuse this band takes.QUOTE]

I sympathy with you in so many ways. Being the "last KISS fan alive", I believe, I can tell you that KISS is at least taking the same amount of abuse if not worse.

I don't know enough about Metallica to really know the state they are in at the moment but you're dead right: If someone doesn't like the band, **** off, and leave the real fans alone.

I am going to see KISS/Alice Cooper Drummer Eric Singer in the UK in November (www.kissexpo.co.uk) and I am sure there will be a full house.

Metallica still has a following and "nothing else matters".

pbsuxok1znja4r

I actually really like both Load and Reload, and the Black album is by far my favourite. There's always one, eh? The vocals on RTL and KEA weren't the best, IMO, and vocals matter quite a lot to me. Hetfield remains my favourite vocalist of all time, even after St. Anger. I believe the only reason that St. Anger was salvaged into anything any way listenable was because of Bob Rock. St. anger could have been so so much worse than it was. I mean, did you hear them rehearsing that "Temptation" song that James came up with? Awful, really awful stuff. St. Anger was still better than your average metal record, but hopefully Kirk will be playing some lead guitar next time 'round.
Metallica have had my support for 6 years now, and it will take alot more than (IMO) one sub-par album to change that. Still the best metal band around.

Motley Crue

I agree with the good Doctor totally that there needs to be more tollerance and acceptance of new acts, because there are great new acts out there. the only problem is the fact that everyone keeps telling you the new acts are going to be the next metallica, and sometimes they even say it themselves (trivium and BFMV both said in interviews in Metal Hammer that they were the next metallica) and this just ruins a bands credibility straight away. they may have the music, and the **** to back it up, but most really decent good bands that became legends like Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, Faith No More, Alice in Chains, Guns N Roses, Motley Crue, Van Halen, REM and the list is endless. Most of those bands started off playing covers in some dive of a place for **** money, and nobody taught they would do anything, except themselves!

Trivium may aspire to be the next metallica, but VERY FEW bands with that amount of hype surrounding their early recordings ever had a successful carrer for 20 yrs afterwards. The Rolling Stones did, Metallica didnt, the Beatles did, Guns N Roses didnt etc etc

Doctor J

Motley Crue wrote:

VERY FEW bands with that amount of hype surrounding their early recordings ever had a successful carrer for 20 yrs afterwards

Spot on. In fairness though, Metallica didn't really have a lot of hype (in a mainstream media sense) until prior to the release of the Black album. They were allowed to develop as a band outside of intense media scrutiny. I feel sorry for any new band who are touted as the "next big thing" so early in their career as it usually ends in tears shortly afterwards.

And any band who says "we're the next..." just gets scratched out of my list, self-belief is essential but arrogance at such an early stage is unforgiveable.

blastman

OLDYELLAR wrote:

I think I got more respect for Lars after that actually.

Fair enough, I think it sounded he was reciting something the record company PR guy was feeding him and I despised him for it.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the music and had bought pretty much all the albums up to St. Anger, seen them live, etc. I just felt that there were better ways to address the Napster issue. So they lost my money anyway. I know they won't notice, but why give someone your money when they think you're a thief?

Motley Crue

I had a taught about this all the other day, and ive been wondering something thats gonna kill me. What if metallica NEVER wanted to be as popular as they were when the black album came out. Cliff Burton said in his last interview that he never wished to be overly famous, and he said this was the universal feeling of the band. When Burton died, they picked a younger bass player from a relatively unknown band when they could have auditioned for months and taken their time. When they released the black album, they became HUGE, and that has carried them through the past 14 years. However, in Lars interview with Metal Hammer back in March, he said that he likes the fact hes not so famous that he cant go down to the local shops, or take the dog for a walk. he likes the fact that, really, a lot of people either dont know, dont care or dont give a **** that hes lars ulrich of metallica.

what im wondering is, did metallica ever want to be as famous as they were?

cournioni

Doctor J wrote:

Worms. Can of. Opening.

Indeed.

merlinsmerryman and BrokenArrow... I don't really want to waste either my time or your own by arguing, but just look into Metallica's history with Megadeth's Dave Mustaine, you'll see what I mean.

Undergod

I like Metallica for the most part. Lars is a tool. I don't just mean the Napster thing, but he does come across as a jackass in most things I've seen.

I don't like Black Album(overproduced) or Load much, but I think Reload is a great album, even it is differnt from their roots. S&M could have been better but I think it still stands as evdience to the great epic sound they are capable of.
St.Anger was, of course, a bloody abomination. I'd rather they break up now while they have some integrity left than release another St.Anger.

christophicus

I dont slag them and i never liked them ,they just didnt appeal to me.

pyure

loved em for years, still do but probally not as much
st anger sounds more like a hetfield solo record than a metallica one, but thats just me.
haven't been bothered to get either cunning stunts or some kind of monster.

would still buy a new studio record tho
but then again im still looking forward to the new guns and roses record.

projectmayhem

i wouldn't say i hate metallica or anything but i have a strong disliking for them. the whole napster thing left a sour taste in my mouth. it probably would have washed away had st.anger been good. but we all know, it was a stinker with 2 moderately audable tunes

Sarky

Pretty much what Doctor J said. I loved S&M, and I still have a soft spot for a couple of tunes off Load and Reload, but what they've been at recently I just cannot listen to. St. Anger is an auditory abortion, pure and simple. I adore most of their earlier stuff, and regularly listen to it, but a new album is going to have to work harder for me to buy it.

paulmartin

I can understand why people critisice metallica's latest stuff, but what annoys me is critisicm of the black album. For me its at least as good as mop or rtl. enter sandman, nothing else matters and the unforgiven are three of my favourite songs ever, a trio of songs up there with anything any other band has produced on one album. The album was the first to feature all four members writing and recording together and thus produced some of Kirk Hammett's greatest moments, the riff to enter sandman (one of the greatest riffs of all time) and my favourite solo ever in the unforgiven. Sad but true was another great song, and songs like wherever I may roam and of wolf and man were at least worthwhile. The lyrics aren't near as good as before, the album probably could have been compressed to 8 or 9 songs like all the previous albums and there is some filler, but rtl also had a couple of duds, although MOP is totally consistent and that's why i think its their best, but the black album is still brilliant. I certainly don't believe it was a sellout album. What, should an incredible song like Nothing Else Matters be left out because it's too quiet for some fans? It was a spontaneous tune that Hetfield wrote, it wasn't like"ok, lets write a full power ballad". I don't think the intention was just to sell more records. On ATJL, they had brought everything Metallica were about to its most extreme level, and i think they realised they had brought it as far as they could. A riff like Enter Sandman might not have worked on the kind of songs they had been doing before.

It wasn't me!

The riff to Enter Sandman gets very irritating, very fast.

cournioni

Most of the riffs on that album in general are very irritating.

Duggy747

Metallica are one of my favourite bands, they defined the trail of greatness left by Black Sabbath, Zeppelin and Deep Purple and moulded it into a wee thing called........Metal. Metallica created ****ing great riffs, superb solos and just all round music that made you proud to be a man and a metal-lover. I don't like this crap were people say ****e like "Metallica were ****e but I love their ST.Anger album" (Okay, you're opinion dosen't count here band-wagon boy.) For anyone into Metal or Rock you AT LEAST have to have the respect for what Metallica did for music. I was turned off Metallica when Load showed it's face, didn't like one song on that album et all! Reload was, meh. I liked the S&M album cuz some of the songs went bloody brilliant with the orcesthra (For Whom The Bells Toll especially, perfect if you were a God destroying a planet) St.Anger I was disappointed a bit but at least it was step in the right direction. The problem with that album was that the song were too raw and the choice of drums Lars chose were a monstrosity though 2 or 3 songs are actually alright on it. But, for me Master Of Puppets and Kill 'Em All are my favourite albums. Metallica were the greatest metal band ever, I'm just sad at the direction they took. (10 years ago the crap they talked about in interviews would put the ****s up ya! Lars on about how great Oasis are? Saying they don't want to be called metal!?! Cor!!) Hopefully they can recitify something if they let Kirk back on his solo's where he belongs, he's cack at singing. As the for Napster tripe, truley disappointed in that. Christ, there's Lars up his own arse again. Anywho, long live Metallica, I'll always stand by them (They only reason I picked up the guitar)

cournioni

Duggy747 wrote:

For anyone into Metal or Rock you AT LEAST have to have the respect for what Metallica did for music.

Why? Because they stole songs from other musicians? Because they decided to sue Napster, something that was bringing music to people all over the world? I seem to remember that the exchange of demo tapes was how Metallica and other bands in the thrash scene was how these guys made their names.

I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to say that I respect them. I can hardly even listen to them any more. I find as people say "what they have done for metal" repulsive to say the least.