Ringsend Sewage Plant Cannot Be Fixed , Another €300 m Wasted ...so

Sponge Bob

They will build a totally new one in Portrane North Dublin and pump the sh1te out there . It was kinda announced a few weeks back here but with an important omission

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/2005/0827/4123018709HM1PORTRANE.html

A new regional sewage plant in north Co Dublin, with the capacity to serve almost one million people, has been recommended by a major drainage study.

They forgot to mention that the 1 million people are the same 1 million people served by Ringsend and not a 'new' 1 Million people as one may think.

Ringsend will lose its secondary and tertiary plants and will be stripped back to certain primary treatments only I hear.

What a bloody waste

robbie1876

I believe the estimated cost of the new plant will be €140m. How do they expect to build it for less than half the cost of the Ringsend plant?? What's the point in forcasting such a low unrealistic figure, only to see the project inevitably overun by tens, if not hundreds of millions.

In fact, how much was the Ringsend plant initially forcast for, does anyone know?

A Dub in Glasgo

Bang goes my idea of coming back to Ireland and living in Rush then

Sponge Bob

robbie1876 wrote:

I believe the estimated cost of the new plant will be €140m. How do they expect to build it for less than half the cost of the Ringsend plant?? What's the point in forcasting such a low unrealistic figure, only to see the project inevitably overun by tens, if not hundreds of millions.

2 sewage schemes have run into problems because they were grossly under specced in the first place and built with no expansion capabilities. .

1. Ringsend , cannot be de stenched without closing it down for a year or so and transferring the load to another (as yet unbuilt) plant. Therefore the new plant will be built, sh1te pumped North and Ringsend will be retrofitted for primary only and no poo smell. This is now planned for 2008/2009, completion 2009 . This leaves a secondary and and a tertiary system unused in Ringsend and all less than 10 years old by end 2008 ....but theoretically usable if the North Dublin one suffers a big outage.

2. Galway , no redundancy for maintenance . New sewage plant needed in East of City so that maintenance can be carried out on the (almost) new sewage scheme in west of city . Ringsend without the stink basically .

The problem is the module size in Galway, they only have 2 (each for c 40,000 people) but the system cannot run on one only during a maintenance outage

Cost of both of those schemes currently estimated at about €500m incl pumping systems.

captaindigs

dude get your facts straight, the sewage plant at ringsend does not need to be shut down to fix the odour problem. a larger odour extraction system is all that is needed as well as covers put on all open tanks and channels. all we hear about is the smell. what about the water quality of the bay. its the best its been in over 200 years.

aliveandkicking

Sponge Bob wrote:

1. Ringsend , cannot be de stenched without closing it down for a year or so and transferring the load to another (as yet unbuilt) plant. Therefore the new plant will be built, sh1te pumped North and Ringsend will be retrofitted for primary only and no poo smell. This is now planned for 2008/2009, completion 2009 . This leaves a secondary and and a tertiary system unused in Ringsend and all less than 10 years old by end 2008 ....but theoretically usable if the North Dublin one suffers a big outage.

Utter crap (no pun intended )
The reason a new pumping station is needed on the northside of the city is because Ringsend doesn't have the capacity needed for all the new developments (north fringe, pelletstown etc.)

aidan24326

robbie1876 wrote:

I believe the estimated cost of the new plant will be €140m. How do they expect to build it for less than half the cost of the Ringsend plant?? What's the point in forcasting such a low unrealistic figure, only to see the project inevitably overun by tens, if not hundreds of millions.

In fact, how much was the Ringsend plant initially forcast for, does anyone know?

Whenever there's an estimate for a public works project in this country, you can immediately double figure. At least. Whoever works in the estimating department must have failed junior cert maths.

Maskhadov

the sh1t house had to be moved anyway to make way for the mini manhatten.

murphaph

Maskhadov wrote:

the sh1t house had to be moved anyway to make way for the mini manhatten.

......along with the port, the prison and the superdump.....all to Fingal. Isn't it about time South Dublin had some of the fun?!

ballooba

murphaph wrote:

......along with the port, the prison and the superdump.....all to Fingal. Isn't it about time South Dublin had some of the fun?!

Don't forget Lusk international airport.