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The Marshes Shopping Centre in Dundalk.
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Dundalk Online wrote:Nobody from Dundalk ever seems to be proud of any town achievments or great things other towns dont have(cept me and tim and cailin : *takes a deep breath*
And you are speaking on behalf of who, the population af dundalk?
This thread is about the marshes shopping centre, which is a private investment. I wouldn't have said it was one of Dundalks achievments.0 -
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But that company wouldn't have located in Dundalk if some people in this town hadn't worked so hard to build up its image and industry. Those people have turned Dundalk from the IRA town with high unemployment and crime to a bustling urban centre which welcomes new businesses, like the marshes. And everytime a company like that locates here we should be proud that they came here because if you step back and take a look; Dundalk is a brilliant town, but nobody ever says it. I am here to say it. ***EDITED*** I don't like drogheda. 0
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well growing up there in the late 70s/80s I have to admit I hated it. There wasn't much to do and it looked awful but then again everywhere in Ireland seemed to me to be the same .. awful.
When I got older I wanted to get out fast, went to London for 1 year, hated that place even more, decided to go back to Ireland and go to uni. Once I graduated I was not going anywhere near Dundalk only to visit family. I decided to move to Dublin in the mid 90s, which was fantastic at the time, but soon it became too expensive, crowded etc. for me , well compared to what I was earning, so I moved once again over the pond to the US, where thankfully with my job I've managed to travel all over the world and have seen many different countries /towns/cities.
Now when I go back to Dundalk I find it has changed for the better. The roads are some of the best in the country, transportation to Dublin or Belfast, be it on bus or train are excellent. The retail scene has woke up finally, some of the new housing developments of course are questionable. But over all I really like what has been done over the last 5 years or so with the town. to me it's a completely different town and actually compared to what I see other countries call cities, Dundalk seems to take on a larger land area than most of those.
Yes there are still certain parts which I don't like, such as Bridge St but compared with the 80s it's all great!
And one thing that has not changed with me, is my dislike of Drogheda, to me it is still one of the biggest Kips I've ever come across. And why anyone would choose to live there is beyond me.
Dundalk was once a bad/awful/kip or whatever you want to call it but it certainly cannot be described as that now.
However the one thing I don't like about it is : Drunks/Fights/Crime, the few times I've gone home over the last few years I'm warned not to walk home at night like I used to when I was a teenager. I dismissed the "mother" for babying me on that. but needless to say I learnt my mistake on one of my trips home. Drink and young Dundalk fellas don't seem to be a good match anymore. Not that I see everytime I go out but I seem to see more and more fights etc. nowadays. Seems an ugly habit that was picked up from the streets of England I'm sad to say. I've gotten drunk in a lot of different places across the world (and no I don't have a problem ) but would love to go out drinking in my own home town without having to worry about own safety and why I can no longer walk the 20min trip from town to home ? yeah there was some of that when I lived there but that was more off: you stepped on my toes, here's my fist and not oh! we're a bunch of drunk late teenagers lets like jump this asshole walking home. 0 -
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I'd fully concur with you Dundalk Online - there is such a self-deprecating element in Dundalk it is quite extraordinary. Saying that, if you live outside the 'youth culture' of the town, and all that Saturday night crap when the scum come out to play - there is really little to complain about.
Dundalk is without doubt one of the most beautiful towns in Ireland - it is mind-blowing how Dundalk's people haven't woken up to this fact. It has a magnificent Georgian core in Park St, Earl St, Market Square, Clanbrassil St, Roden Place and Joceyln St.
It features some of the most architecturally outstanding buildings in Ireland - the Courthouse, Carrolls Factory, St Patricks, the Railway Station and the 1838 Louth Hospital.
But it's not just these token buildings that are of significance - it is the magnificent vernacular streetscapes of Clanbrassil St, Chapel St, the whole area around the Railway and Garda Stations, Seatown with ranks and ranks of Victorian housing, St Mary's Road/North, Stapleton Place opposite the Old Shopping Centre - one of the finest vistas in the East, the straight-as-an-arrow Joceyln St/Seatown Place thoroughfare darting out from Crowe St, unobstructed for nearly a mile with the Cooley Mtns terminating the vista, lined the whole way along its length with the most stunning collection of virtually unaltered Georgian, Victorian and Edwardian housing. There is nothing like it in Ireland. It is designated an Architectural Conservation Area, as is Clan St, Earl St, The Crescent, Seatown, and many others, some of the first ACAs to be enacted in the country.
Think of the wonderful atmosphere of leafy Roden Place, lined with mellowed 18th and 19th century buildings with the recent striking introduction of the contemporary Couthouse extension, the admirable new Social Welfare offices out on the by-pass, the award-winning Bus Éireann station beside the Long Walk, the internationally renouned Carrolls Factory on the Dublin Road, the extraordinary historic atmosphere of northern Clanbrassil St with the Green Church, the old Carrolls Factory, and St Nicholas' Church, and the beautiful red brick Edwardian office building of the Carrolls complex.
And as for the stacks of Victoriana in the acres of railways sheds and worker housing around the train station!
People just view towns as retail spaces which is a great shame - if a town doesn't have Boots or Awear then it's a 'kip' or whatever.
Dundalk has so much going for it; if anything it is depending too much on retail. It needs to diversify into more service and high-grade jobs. There's only so much retail it can take.
As such, the Marshes provides an adequate mixture of stores, though nothing spectacular. There's more than enough gievn what Dundalk already has. Externally however, it is such a pathetic let-down. The architecture is an utter farce, a theme park of historic styles slapped over a giant shed. There's Gothic, Tudor, Georgian, Victorian, Edwardian and Toyland all combined in the most laughable pastiche job ever executed in this country.
It puts Dundalk to shame - what an embarrassment.
There's pictures at the bottom of theis page if you're interested, and the next :eek:
http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=3901&page=3
The planners must have been crying over there blueprints when this was being passed. What a disappointment decent contemporary design wasn't given an outing on this occasion - Dundalk had such a good reputation in this department until now
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GrahamH wrote:I'd fully concur with you Dundalk Online - there is such a self-deprecating element in Dundalk it is quite extraordinary. Saying that, if you live outside the 'youth culture' of the town, and all that Saturday night crap when the scum come out to play - there is really little to complain about.
Dundalk is without doubt one of the most beautiful towns in Ireland - it is mind-blowing how Dundalk's people haven't woken up to this fact. It has a magnificent Georgian core in Park St, Earl St, Market Square, Clanbrassil St, Roden Place and Joceyln St.
It features some of the most architecturally outstanding buildings in Ireland - the Courthouse, Carrolls Factory, St Patricks, the Railway Station and the 1838 Louth Hospital.
But it's not just these token buildings that are of significance - it is the magnificent vernacular streetscapes of Clanbrassil St, Chapel St, the whole area around the Railway and Garda Stations, Seatown with ranks and ranks of Victorian housing, St Mary's Road/North, Stapleton Place opposite the Old Shopping Centre - one of the finest vistas in the East, the straight-as-an-arrow Joceyln St/Seatown Place thoroughfare darting out from Crowe St, unobstructed for nearly a mile with the Cooley Mtns terminating the vista, lined the whole way along its length with the most stunning collection of virtually unaltered Georgian, Victorian and Edwardian housing. There is nothing like it in Ireland. It is designated an Architectural Conservation Area, as is Clan St, Earl St, The Crescent, Seatown, and many others, some of the first ACAs to be enacted in the country.
Think of the wonderful atmosphere of leafy Roden Place, lined with mellowed 18th and 19th century buildings with the recent striking introduction of the contemporary Couthouse extension, the admirable new Social Welfare offices out on the by-pass, the award-winning Bus Éireann station beside the Long Walk, the internationally renouned Carrolls Factory on the Dublin Road, the extraordinary historic atmosphere of northern Clanbrassil St with the Green Church, the old Carrolls Factory, and St Nicholas' Church, and the beautiful red brick Edwardian office building of the Carrolls complex.
And as for the stacks of Victoriana in the acres of railways sheds and worker housing around the train station!
People just view towns as retail spaces which is a great shame - if a town doesn't have Boots or Awear then it's a 'kip' or whatever.
Dundalk has so much going for it; if anything it is depending too much on retail. It needs to diversify into more service and high-grade jobs. There's only so much retail it can take.
As such, the Marshes provides an adequate mixture of stores, though nothing spectacular. There's more than enough gievn what Dundalk already has. Externally however, it is such a pathetic let-down. The architecture is an utter farce, a theme park of historic styles slapped over a giant shed. There's Gothic, Tudor, Georgian, Victorian, Edwardian and Toyland all combined in the most laughable pastiche job ever executed in this country.
It puts Dundalk to shame - what an embarrassment.
There's pictures at the bottom of theis page if you're interested, and the next :eek:
http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=3901&page=3
The planners must have been crying over there blueprints when this was being passed. What a disappointment decent contemporary design wasn't given an outing on this occasion - Dundalk had such a good reputation in this department until now
Here Here Well Said.....:)0 -
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Just to say, the site not's run by me, rather by publisher Paul Clerkin
Just looking at the original promotional images for the centre when first announced, the centre of the malls feature lots of public seating, and trees & bins as per Buttercrane etc. Is this going to materialise I wonder?
The malls feel too vacuous and lacking in focus with all that empty echoing space - too like Liffey Valley. More public seating is simply essential.
Heaven forbid that people would stop spending for 30 seconds to rest their feet :rolleyes:0 -
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zabbo wrote:Whats with the metro guys peddling their hand lotion everytime you pass them?
yeah i'm confused by that too.... they didnt offer me any... i must have nice hands
i see them in the buttercrane all the time too!0 -
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