What is curvy?

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You know yourself , if you are over weight or not consult your GP but i do know that is you went to join the gardai / army with body fat at 25% and a BMI of over 25% then you would not get in or even past the medical !

rubberduckey

Hold on!!

You know yourself , if you are over weight or not consult your GP but i do know that is you went to join the gardai / army with body fat at 25% and a BMI of over 25% then you would not get in or even past the medical !

Are you saying that even though I'm fit enough to run a marathon in 3hrs 45 that I would be turned down for the Guards and Army on fitness grounds????

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rubberduckey wrote:

Hold on!!
Are you saying that even though I'm fit enough to run a marathon in 3hrs 45 that I would be turned down for the Guards and Army on fitness grounds????

The army and gardai go by BMI and Body fat .

rubberduckey

Man oh man, Right I guess I need to change my diet and exercise plan.

RIGHT NOW!!

Can't believe I'm posting this in a ' What is curvy' thread!!!!!!!!!!!

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rubberduckey wrote:

Man oh man, Right I guess I need to change my diet and exercise plan.
RIGHT NOW!!
Can't believe I'm posting this in a ' What is curvy' thread!!!!!!!!!!!

believe me i cant believe it either , this conversation went off topic a long time ago , should of been stopped but hey , no admin on line
but interesting none the less

rubberduckey

Good man Sarge, I'll call back to this thread when I have body fat down to 15% range.

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rubberduckey wrote:

Good man Sarge, I'll call back to this thread when I have body fat down to 15% range.

Best of luck , and if your looking for some advice try the fitness forum

Rozie

rubberduckey wrote:

Man oh man, Right I guess I need to change my diet and exercise plan.

RIGHT NOW!!

Can't believe I'm posting this in a ' What is curvy' thread!!!!!!!!!!!

I honestly hope, since you're obviously extremely fit, that you're taking the piss and not generally being made paranoid by scary statistics :P

Rb

oh no....here we go :rolleyes:

Other than that, best of luck rubberduckey, one of the great effects(sine you like running marathons) of getting your BF level down is that you'll become leaner (more aerodynamic as there's less wind resistance) so with your current fitness level you'd most likely improve on your marathon times.

God it's badly gone off topic.
Isn't Simu the greatest?

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edit - was a joke - and late

WhiteWashMan

Rozie wrote:

Nobody's making a morphine addict inject, either, y'know.



13 stone at 5"11 is fat?!? I'm 16 stone at 5"11 and nobody seems to think I'm fat(I do have a large frame though).

Honestly, I think the healthy weight for 5"11 is somewhere around 12 stone anyway, or not far below it.

And of course, like the good little person you are, you presume it's the same for everyone else as it is for you.



Then I have no respect for you as a human being. There are far too many things wrong with that completely arrogant sentence to get into.c



They're weak. If ever I needed an example for a rather pathetic supriority complex, this is it.

And nobody who's posted who's been obese, or even particularily unhealthily overweight, that's managed to loose it. There's a difference between piling on a few pounds, and the more complex reasons behind obesity.

Honestly, if you're going to keep with these insults nobody has any right accuse me of being pushy. But oh right, I forgot, they should have thought about that that day they decided to be obese. You know, that day that didn't happen because it's a whole load of rubbish?



Quite frankly then, I think you're an insensitive prick with no respect for other people's struggles unless they meet your own set of double standards.

I dispise that because you're the exact kind that would say transsexuality is a choice too, ignoring just about every point of research that says otherwise.

banned for direct person insult.

he may be an incredibly insensitive príck, but attack the post, not the poster.
he is allowed his own point of view regardless of whether you feel it is ethically, morally, or socially correct.

although personally, i feel that any stupid statements that arent backed up with proof should be a bannable offence myself...

SparkyLarks

First off, curvy nowadays often seams to be attributed tos omeone like Jeniffer lover hewitt(mmmm). big up front, slim waist round hips , round ass.

however it encompasses a lot more, Marylin Monroe would be considered fat in todays entertainment inductry but honestly she's hot. that number on the train in some like em hot, yumm.she's curvey.

Curvey is soft feminine line, the shape flows from body part to bodypart, no sharp angles( ala thin person with implants)

You have to have too sets of scales one for people in the entertainment indusry and one for people in the street. What the Ent Ind call thin is sticklike, what they call curvey is often thin with implants. What they call fat is often curvy. a curvey person on the street who is very hot, would be considerd fat by the entertainment industry.

As for BMI and body fat, there only indicators.
Some people carry fat better than others, placement can be very improtant and mean the difference between fat and curvy

The only person who can determin if your weight is unhelathy is a professional( ie. doc ect)
the only person who can decide if one healthy if you body is right for you is yourself.

A curvey person who isn;t skinny, but isnt fat either. They tend to exercise well but eat a little too much, so they carry a little extra.

I defintly curve out the front(does that count)

WhiteWashMan

if you want to talk about body mass index or body fat, take it to the fitness forum.

either keep it on the topic, or i will ban any other idiot that goes off on a wondering course....

SparkyLarks

Apologies, I meant only to talk about BMI and overweightness as an aside.
It sort of took over my post.
I've eddited

DAEDULUS

sorryyyyyyyyyyy,but im all for the supermodel body,maybe ive been watching too much fasion channel but they ALL have savage arses..

ideally:

now,this girl could probably be considered 'stick thin' but id imagine thats what most lads would consider curvy,big fun bags and a nice arse

Seraphina

she has curves, but she's also got ribs sticking out everywhere. thats not exactly attractive imo.
she could gain a few pounds and still look great i reckon.

and btw she doesn't actually have big fun bags - she's just wearing a push up bra that looks like its too small for her.
the wonders of preparation for photoshoots

Rb

I'd consider her quite curvy..and quite hot

Seraphina

of course you would. she gets paid to look hot.
you aren't the smartest of guys are you?!

(that was a joke btw)

chump

Yea I wouldn't dig the whole ribs thing... there definetely is a stage where I think a girl could look better with a few pounds more on her.

In the case of the above photo, I'd say those ribs aren't like that when shes standing normally, but whatever stance she has going. All in all she's hot but I'd throw a few more pounds on her.

I don't think she looks unhealthy by the by... lemme see if I can get a good example!

Actually cant find any suitable examples, but if any of the lads are looking for a good collection of fine shots, PM me

Pigman II

Aurther Hugh wrote:

Every womens magazine on the shelves at the moment seem to devote their covers to the curvy vs skinny girl debate. I've seen celebs ranging from Charlotte Church to JLo to Jessica Alba to a slightly less emaciated Lindsey Lohan held up as the poster girl for this body fad. Indeed previous threads on topics related to womens body shape seem to refer to a male preference for curvy ladies. What I want to know is what is curvy? And is this the perfect body shape that we should all be aspiring to?

Curvy is when the the most prominant curve on your body is located on either your hips, tits or ass .... fat is when it's your stomach.

daveirl

This post has been deleted.

simu

Daveirl - banned for a week for going off topic. See warning above.

simu

SexyD4Lady

Well, I would consider myself curvy. Size 10 waist, size 12 top as a 10 refuses to fit over my chest, size 12 or even a 14 on the ass. I have a very round ass, not unlike Beyoncé's. I'm a little overweight, as I'm only 5'3" but I recognise that and put it down to laziness and not the best diet! But I'll lose a little weight when I want. Curvy is often used in the place of overweight, and I don't like that. That means, when I accurately describe my shape, people will think I'm fat. And I'm NOT!

rainbow kirby

If you're a size 12, then you probably don't need to lose any more weight. I'd *love* to get back down to a 12...

Pepe LeFrits

Aurther Hugh wrote:

...I agree. I reackon when men say curves they mean tiny waist, skinny legs and arms with big breasts and a round ass, Jessica Simpson style, despite the fact she's about 7 1/2 stone. This whole 'curvy is best' is just an excuse for fat people to feel better about themselves. Kate Winslet in that pic has a tiny waist and can't weigh more than 8 1/2 stone.

I take it you haven't seen Titanic then!

I don't think many people are going to suggest that fat is sexy. But if given the choice of slightly plump/curvy, or slightly skinny, I'd go with the former!

OSiriS

Never heard of a corset maybe;)

tman

thought the thread title said "scurvy" for a sec...

Endurance Man

http://dan.olsen-twins.org/gallery/albums/charlotte/114696_G.jpg

Curvy?? I would say that is curvy.

Aurther Hugh

Brilliant; I love that that pic of the Victorias Secret model appeared above; the girl is anorexic (look at the child size limbs..ribs) with pushed up stuck on breasts and men see that as curvy, if a slightly under it. Hilarious; just goes to show what women see as curvy (size 12) men see as fat, and they actually see curvy as anorexic with a big chest.

Rb

Endurance Man wrote:

http://dan.olsen-twins.org/gallery/albums/charlotte/114696_G.jpg

Curvy?? I would say that is curvy.

These days charlotte is lovely and curvy but in that pic (I'm presuming it was taken during her mad stint in Ibiza) she's a little....pudgy

rainglow

Aurther Hugh wrote:

Brilliant; I love that that pic of the Victorias Secret model appeared above; the girl is anorexic (look at the child size limbs..ribs) with pushed up stuck on breasts and men see that as curvy, if a slightly under it. Hilarious; just goes to show what women see as curvy (size 12) men see as fat, and they actually see curvy as anorexic with a big chest.

I know - Adriana Lima is *so* slender. VS models are basically runway models who have too much t&a for the sample sizes. Same skinny limbs and 24" waists as the fashion models who men claim they don't like.

And Rachel Bilson from the OC is always touted as the "curvy" one compared to Mischa Barton - look how tiny she is in this pic standing beside regular girls, none of whom look overweight to me.

TheIceMaker

rb_ie wrote:

These days charlotte is lovely and curvy but in that pic (I'm presuming it was taken during her mad stint in Ibiza) she's a little....pudgy

Pudgy wtf? There is NOTHING pudgy about her, she'd got a normal, healthy figure.
God I hate guys like you, you're the kind of people that cause girls to become anorexic. Get a life

Rb

Rachel Bilson is hot! Sure enough she's tiny but she still has curves.
Very much in proportion IMO.

TheIceMaker: Yeah, guys make girls anorexic, sure :rolleyes:

EDIT: Adriana Lima...also so hot

TheIceMaker

You obv don't know that little comments like urs affect girls. Stupid little boyish comments like calling Charlotte Chursh 'pudgy', like wtf are you on?

GROW UP

Rb

ok then I'll say she was "doughy"
Looks great these days though.

TheIceMaker

Yeah she does, except for her new hair cut tho

nesf

Ok, in reality...

It's easy to analyse figures and bodies in photos in depth, but tbh what kind of shallow person does it in real life?

You either find someone attractive or you don't. It's not a case of a checklist of body features that need to be in place first. Sure we all have a type of person we tend to be attracted to but it's usually a very general outline rather than a bunch of specifics.


Personally, I see curvy as meaning having a fair sized coupling of breasts and ass. Not necessarily thin, just not fat. A well defined figure is also in there. Fat being someone who's very overweight and has little definition to their figure. Fat and heavy are not the same thing. A well built or large framed woman is not automatically fat.

Indeed, some fat women like to say they are curvy and it's not true. Likewise some fat guys like to think that they are just big guys not fat. Equally untrue. That's just people's self-image issues coming to the fore. Understandable in a culture with such an obsession over weight but not healthy or true because of this.


The idea that men want curvy and stick thin is just an idiotic generalisation. Men are not like that in real life. Anyone who was active socially could tell you that. Sure they might point at some pin up and say she's hot, but they don't go around in pubs expecting to find such women. It's the same as generalising over women saying that they are obsessed with men with good hard muscly bodies. Sure again, they might point at a pin up and say wow he's hot. But do they walk around pubs ignoring any guy without a six pack? No.

Yes there are a tiny number of people out there with huge expectations physically of potential partners, but the vast majority of us aren't like that. We're realistic about it.


On a seperate issue, this tendency of women to label any thin woman as anorexic is beyond contempt. You'd swear there were no naturally thin people in the world. Anorexia is a term that's bandied about far far too easily these days. Some women are "bony". That's life. Same as some men are. But do they get labelled as anorexic because they are so thin? No, it's just brushed off as them just being naturally thin.

Aurther Hugh

nesf wrote:

On a seperate issue, this tendency of women to label any thin woman as anorexic is beyond contempt. You'd swear there were no naturally thin people in the world. Anorexia is a term that's bandied about far far too easily these days. Some women are "bony". That's life. Same as some men are. But do they get labelled as anorexic because they are so thin? No, it's just brushed off as them just being naturally thin.

Fair enough, but it's a fact that about the vast majority of thin women in the public eye are either that way from drugs or eating disorders or a combination of both; Jackie Collins even said it on the late late on friday night. Marcia Cross (Desperate Housewives) equally said that what they are paid for is not to eat. It should be recognised that figures like that belong to little girls rather than fully grown women and the only way to look like what is perceived hot is to push yourself out of the comfort zone of food and exercise.

Stark

That's the public eye though. You're talking about women who are paid to be photogenic, not necessarily be naturally sexy. The phrase "anorexic" does get bandied about quite a bit for naturally thin girls that you meet day to day. Nothing but jealous bitching in my opinion. Some people have different metabolisms to yours, get over it. Some girls in "real life" do become anorexic, but there is a marked difference in someone with anorexia to someone who's just thin.

Anyway, back on topic, which was I think, the limits on "what's curvy, what's fat".

DAEDULUS

well,lets just get something straight here..
http://www.visualdisco.com/noticiasylinks/marzo05/VS_Show.jpg
im sure we can agree that all the women in that photo are super hot...

top5 supermodels in the world right there... so i guess, the so called 'anorexic' look is in...even though they are no where near anorexic,just not fat..

ps. charlotte church is ugly and fat in that pic where shes in the water

Pigman II

I'd sooner do Charlotte Church than any of those 5 tbh.

Supermodels are like blockbuster movies.... just because media browbeat you into believing they are best things going & the paragons of the form , it doesn't neccessarily make it true.

DAEDULUS

still hot though,unlike that moonpig..

charlotte church is the hot woman for the desperate man

Seraphina

you think the rugby player she's dating is desperate? i wouldn't say so, i'd say he could get any skinny-ass breakable models he wanted.

he seems to have more sense than you though :rolleyes:

simu

Yeah, tbh, there's no need to be so nasty about people whose appearance you don't like (although Charlotte Church isn't a boards member afaik)!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!!!

OSiriS

DAEDULUS that is you're opinion, not the universal male opinion. In that picture the only one with a decent figure is Tyra banks, she has good muscle tone, but is still a bit too skinny as far as i'm concerned. The other 4 look emaciated. I don't care what the fashio industry deems is the "in" figure, I prefer women to have a healthy layer of baby fat and no ribs showing.

Pigman II

DAEDULUS wrote:

charlotte church is the hot woman for the desperate man

That's weird cos I've always reckoned that supermodels are the 'desire' of latent homosexual men who are over-compensating because they can't honestly tell one womans level of attractiveness from the next.

Certainly would explain all those George Michael videos if nothing else.

DAEDULUS

OSiriS wrote:

DAEDULUS that is you're opinion, not the universal male opinion. In that picture the only one with a decent figure is Tyra banks, she has good muscle tone, but is still a bit too skinny as far as i'm concerned. The other 4 look emaciated. I don't care what the fashio industry deems is the "in" figure, I prefer women to have a healthy layer of baby fat and no ribs showing.

ahh,reminds me of the classic :
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=241120

Rb

DAEDULUS wrote:

ahh,reminds me of the classic :
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=241120

LMAO
Personally I think 4 of the 5 models in that attached pic above are hot.

Yesterday as I was sitting in the cantine in work reading an article in 'New Woman' magazine about Gail Porter, this thread came to mind.
The article was talking about how Gail went from "skinny" to "curvy" and how she is "happier than ever".
I now get how the male and female opinion of what "curvy" is differs.
IMO she has gone from slim/toned with gentle curves to fat but according to a magazine written by women she is now "curvy" and before was "skinny", whereas from a male perspective she was has just let go of herself.
Obviously these magazines are what is shaping womens minds on what "skinny", "curvy" etc are, and really should not be taken as the truth. It seems to be written to make fat women feel better about themselves. Now women who have a shape like the new Gail Porter will be going around thinking they're "curvy" and thinking it's ok or even worse..."sexy".

Aurther Hugh

rb_ie wrote:

LMAO
Personally I think 4 of the 5 models in that attached pic above are hot.

Yesterday as I was sitting in the cantine in work reading an article in 'New Woman' magazine about Gail Porter, this thread came to mind.
The article was talking about how Gail went from "skinny" to "curvy" and how she is "happier than ever".
I now get how the male and female opinion of what "curvy" is differs.
IMO she has gone from slim/toned with gentle curves to fat but according to a magazine written by women she is now "curvy" and before was "skinny", whereas from a male perspective she was has just let go of herself.
Obviously these magazines are what is shaping womens minds on what "skinny", "curvy" etc are, and really should not be taken as the truth. It seems to be written to make fat women feel better about themselves. Now women who have a shape like the new Gail Porter will be going around thinking they're "curvy" and thinking it's ok or even worse..."sexy".

Delighted to see this thread come full circle

Nightwish

going by a lot of the opinions of the guys on this thread, I'd be deemed "fat". This is something I've NEVER been called by anyone. WTF is wrong with you people?