Why was O'Brien not at Troi/Riker wedding?

Johnny Storm · 24-10-2005 11:34am #1

I mean, even the boy was there. Is there any accepted reason? Or was Colm Meaney not available?

MrVestek · 24-10-2005 1:52pm

He probably just wasn't available would be the most likely reason. Hell there were even scenes with Picard chatting to 'The Boy' as you put it in the wedding scene but were cut from the final movie, and weren't even included on the DVD... bah.

bizmark · 24-10-2005 5:12pm

Busy at starfleet hq designing the ultimate sex robot .......obrian you old dog:p

Johnny Storm · 24-10-2005 6:37pm

Achilles wrote:

He probably just wasn't available would be the most likely reason. Hell there were even scenes with Picard chatting to 'The Boy' as you put it in the wedding scene but were cut from the final movie, and weren't even included on the DVD... bah.

As in "Get the boy off the bridge" - just about the most sensible thing Picard ever said IMHO
I believe those scenes are on new 2 disc so-called special edition
http://trekweb.com/articles/2005/10/03/4341ab2e33f28.shtml

Ultimate Star Trek sex robot - now THERE's a topic for a thread.

MrVestek · 24-10-2005 7:52pm

OOOHHHhhhh, I look forward to seeing those. I won't be buying the special edition tho just to get a few more minutes worth of extras. I'm sure I can borrow it off of somebody.

Vokes · 24-10-2005 9:08pm

Well, O'Brien was never really part of the Next Gen clique, was he?

Although, i seem to recall him playing poker once

BuffyBot · 24-10-2005 11:11pm

Maybe he was there. He could have popped out to use the bathroom

MrVestek · 25-10-2005 10:11am

True whilst he wasn't one of the major characters there were a few episodes where he features quite a bit as a main character, for that episode anyways. I can't remember the episode's name at the minute but there's an episode where Data, Troi and O'Brien all become posessed by ghosts when orbiting some planet, where O'Brien threatens to kill his wife and their just born child. He featured quite heavily as a main character in that episode. Also, whilst not major, he featured quite a bit on the Bridge and on the Battle Bridge in the TNG Pilot.

Pigman II · 25-10-2005 9:59pm

O'Brien was never a member of the TNG main cast so maybe the producers felt it was inappropriate? As for 'The Boy' he was, lest we forget, a main cast member for 3 years which I reckon makes him a more important character to tng at least.

Now tbh I don't even remember this wedding in ST10 (thought it was a pretty forgetable movie in general too) but for the sake of argument was Ensign Ro or Guinan or any of the recurring characters at it either?

Ro: maaan! · 25-10-2005 10:32pm

Pigman II wrote:

but for the sake of argument was Ensign Ro or Guinan or any of the recurring characters at it either?

Good point. 'Cept for Ro. She kinda betrayed them all to join the Maquis. So she'd either be dead, or in jail by that time. I'd say they just didn't care enough to get everyone there for it.

Goodshape · 26-10-2005 12:04am

Just another in the long list of ways that movie could have been so much better.

Worf was there for it, yea? I forget, was that the reason they used for getting him onboard? If so, then surly O'Brien would have tagged along from DS9.

A pity anyway.. always liked the character.

BuffyBot · 26-10-2005 12:15am

Guinan was there IIRC

Johnny Storm · 27-10-2005 9:33pm

BuffyBot wrote:

Maybe he was there. He could have popped out to use the bathroom

That's probably the most likely explanation so far........;)

lostexpectation · 28-10-2005 8:57am

i dunno maybe his(colm meanys) kids college education had been paid for at that stage,

it funny isn't that Colm Meany has gotten more film work _in the US_ out of Star Trek then any other character apart from Patrick Stewart.

LastIrishMonkey · 29-10-2005 2:30am

cause obriens knows he's better then them in everyway!

BlitzKrieg · 07-11-2005 8:52am

Worf was there for it, yea? I forget, was that the reason they used for getting him onboard? If so, then surly O'Brien would have tagged along from DS9

nemesis is set after ds9...

o brian and work both leave ds9 at the end of season 7, o brian is head of starfleet academy enginering division and worf was kligon ambassador to the federation(under martok), dont know why that wasnt mentioned in nemesis

Asok · 07-11-2005 9:15am

He was where every irishman is at a wedding ...passed out drunk under a table while searching for alien poon.

MrVestek · 07-11-2005 11:01am

Asok wrote:

He was where every irishman is at a wedding ...passed out drunk under a table while searching for alien poon.

Wow, so that's why I woke up at the bar in Bruxelles after the fancy dress party with a hawt blue alien lady beside me...

Johnny Storm · 07-11-2005 6:20pm

Asok wrote:

He was where every irishman is at a wedding ...passed out drunk under a table while searching for alien poon.

Good one, LOL
.... or maybe he was outsiding having the traditional wedding punch-up with Thomas Riker ? :rolleyes:

mcgarnicle · 14-11-2005 3:17pm

Johnny Storm wrote:

Good one, LOL
.... or maybe he was outsiding having the traditional wedding punch-up with Thomas Riker ? :rolleyes:

In DS9 didn't Thomas Riker hate O'Brien, maybe Will Riker hates him too.

Johnny Storm · 14-11-2005 3:39pm

mcgarnicle wrote:

In DS9 didn't Thomas Riker hate O'Brien, maybe Will Riker hates him too.

Yeah, Thomas made some inexplicable remark to O'Brien but that was while he was pretending to be Will R. Who knows what it all portends? :v: :v: :v: :rolleyes:

I'm most inclined to believe O'Brien was outside being "calmed down" by StarFleet Military Police

MrVestek · 15-11-2005 11:48am

Johnny Storm wrote:

Yeah, Thomas made some inexplicable remark to O'Brien but that was while he was pretending to be Will R. Who knows what it all portends? :v: :v: :v: :rolleyes:

I'm most inclined to believe O'Brien was outside being "calmed down" by StarFleet Military Police

Thomas Riker was sent to a Cardassian internment camp in DS9 and was never heard from again. If the Cardassians couldn't successfully use him to infiltrate Starfleet in some manner pretending to me Will Riker again then he's most probably been killed.

mcgarnicle · 15-11-2005 5:24pm

Achilles wrote:

Thomas Riker was sent to a Cardassian internment camp in DS9 and was never heard from again. If the Cardassians couldn't successfully use him to infiltrate Starfleet in some manner pretending to me Will Riker again then he's most probably been killed.

Yes but he was pretending to be Will when he had his outbirst at O'Brien.

enterprise · 15-11-2005 5:26pm

I never understood that outburst. Any body got any ideas?

mcgarnicle · 15-11-2005 5:31pm

enterprise wrote:

I never understood that outburst. Any body got any ideas?

I heard some theory that since Thomas was trying to trick everyone into believing that he was Will he wanted to avoid O'Brien as he would know alot about Will and could notice that something wasn't quite right and raise the alarm.

MrVestek · 15-11-2005 5:56pm

mcgarnicle wrote:

I heard some theory that since Thomas was trying to trick everyone into believing that he was Will he wanted to avoid O'Brien as he would know alot about Will and could notice that something wasn't quite right and raise the alarm.

That sounds the most probable to me. O'Brien was serving aboard the Enterprise at the time so he would have known about their aquiring of a "new" Commander Riker.

Cactus Col · 15-11-2005 6:04pm

mcgarnicle wrote:

I heard some theory that since Thomas was trying to trick everyone into believing that he was Will he wanted to avoid O'Brien as he would know alot about Will and could notice that something wasn't quite right and raise the alarm.

that's the one I went with too, but troi's mother wasn't there either was she?

and I know she was heading to her home planet for a ceremony there, but, if worf could make it for both, I don't see why her own mother couldn't.

MrVestek · 15-11-2005 6:50pm

Cactus Col wrote:

that's the one I went with too, but troi's mother wasn't there either was she?

and I know she was heading to her home planet for a ceremony there, but, if worf could make it for both, I don't see why her own mother couldn't.

Maybe she was, theres was like 40 mins cut from the original cut of the movie. Some stuff that was in there really should have stayed in tbh.

halenger · 15-11-2005 7:28pm

Maybe it's just me, but did they not say something about her refusing to go because it wasn't a traditional wedding? i.e. she would've had to have been clothed.

tj-music.com · 30-11-2005 1:13am

I am glad that all scenes with Wesley Crusher were cut out. He is and always has been the worst character in Star Trek!

O'Brien wasn't there because his wife didn't allow him to go. She is the second worst character in all of Star Trek!

MrVestek · 30-11-2005 11:20am

mcgarnicle wrote:

Yes but he was pretending to be Will when he had his outbirst at O'Brien.

Yeah but that would just have been due to the fact that O'Brien was on the Enterprise-D when they discovered Thomas Riker so it would have been just a ruse to get him out of the Defiant before he suspected anything. Anyways when I said he had been captured by the Cardassians that was at the end of the episode, it was a bargaining chip by Starfleet to get the Defiant back.

Why was O'Brien not at Troi/Riker wedding?

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