Arsenal Penalty.....

wheres me jumpa · 24-10-2005 11:47am #1

http://home.skysports.com/broadband.asp?showclip=yes

heres a clip of it, read mourinhos comment at the end, its classic.

how would ye feel if this had worked out? personally i would have felt so pi$$ed off. i know its within the rules of the game and we should all appreciate a bit of creativity but i would have been pi$$ed!

BaZmO* · 24-10-2005 11:59am

I thought it was one of the funniest things I'd ever seen in footall. The look on everybody's face when it happened, absolutely priceless. Danny Mills wasn't too pleased with Pires either. You could see him calling Pires a Twát as he was walking away.
You can understand his point of view though. It doesn't matter what spin Arsenal put on it, it showed a total lack of respect for Man City. Fair enough if they were 3-0 up or something.

The problem with trying something like that is you have to be 100% sure you can pull it off, if not you just look like a muppet.

It'll be replayed over and over again on shows like A Question of Sport for years to come.

B.

Pigman II · 24-10-2005 11:59am

Whether he touched it twice or not it should have been retaken as you can clearly see a mancity foot inside the box before Pires completes his run-up to the ball.

wheres me jumpa · 24-10-2005 12:05pm

BaZmO* wrote:

It'll be replayed over and over again on shows like A Question of Sport for years to come.

B.

yeah we'll really start to reap the benefits when were 80 and we can impress our grandkids with the answer,

"it was teres and hendry"

BaZmO* · 24-10-2005 12:08pm

wheres me jumpa wrote:

yeah we'll really start to reap the benefits when were 80 and we can impress our grandkids with the answer,

"it was teres and hendry"

If you're gonna impress them, you might want to get the names right!

B.

Necronomicon · 24-10-2005 12:16pm

At least for Pires it overshadowed another embarrassing moment; when he clashed with Danny Mills, lashed out with his hand and then clutched it as if Mills had broken it with his stomach:)

wheres me jumpa · 24-10-2005 12:16pm

im hoping you realised i was joking in the above!

BaZmO* · 24-10-2005 12:23pm

wheres me jumpa wrote:

im hoping you realised i was joking in the above!

Well I did....;)

B.

homerjay2005 · 24-10-2005 3:39pm

what are the rules on this? does the ball not have the travel a certain distance from a dead ball, i.e. 10 yards? does anybody know for certain if there are rules regarding "passing" a penalty? i think the only problem with this was the fact that pires is alleged to have touched the ball 2 times and henry just stood there looking at him

Kingp35 · 24-10-2005 3:47pm

That is correct. You are perfectly allowed to tip the ball to a team mate as long as you dont touch the ball twice. Just ask Johan Cruyff and the boys.

By the way that clip isnt working for me. Must be the stupid college computers

Royale with Cheese · 24-10-2005 4:02pm

I don't think this went wrong because they chose to pass the ball. If Pires had managed to pass to Henry and then Henry miss or have James come out and smother the ball then yes you could say the idea failed. Pires just completely and utterly screwed up, I'm sure in practice the ball is supposed to move more than 1 inch.

BaZmO* · 24-10-2005 4:17pm

The rules state that the ball only has to move forward, and as Pires ever so slightly touched the ball it did infact move forward.

B.

jimbling · 24-10-2005 4:28pm

i think the ball has to roll at least one full revolution..

this was brought in to stop guys just touching the ball in indirect free kicks... then next guy comes along and takes a shot , when everyone else thinks he has to pass it off......

d22ontour · 24-10-2005 4:30pm

Thanks for the link that's the 1st time i seen it. :eek:

Why didn't he just let Henry take it in the 1st place ?

They could lose a league position this season by one goal and it would be funny if they did though it may be unlikely.

BaZmO* · 24-10-2005 4:47pm

jimbling wrote:

i think the ball has to roll at least one full revolution..

From Fifa.com

The player taking the penalty kicks the ball forward.

He does not play the ball a second time until it has touched another player.

The ball is in play when it is kicked and moves forward.

Just says that the ball has to go forward.

B.

wheres me jumpa · 24-10-2005 5:28pm

the ball no longer has to move one revolution it just has to move forward.

Davei141 · 24-10-2005 5:34pm

What mourinho said at the end was spot on

, lost count the amount of penos they got.

Green_Martian · 24-10-2005 5:47pm

You have to love Mourinhos comment lol:D

Royale with Cheese · 24-10-2005 5:49pm

I don't see how anyone can take Mourinho's comments seriously when he will moan for 5 minutes about Drogba's disallowed goal and then when asked did he think Everton should have had a penalty he just says 'no'... not even saying it wasn't handball or any other reason why it shouldn't be a penalty, just 'no'. He does that sort of thing regularly.

randomfella · 24-10-2005 6:15pm

One team i played against the guy taking the corner rolled the ball out as if he was giving it to another lad to take but in fact that was the corner. One of their players walked towards the ball while we thought he was going to pick it up and take it but he just turned around, at this stage close to goal just outside box. Crossed in and they scored. VEry clever trick obviously practiced it down to a tee.

Pepe LeFrits · 24-10-2005 6:26pm

randomfella wrote:

One team i played against the guy taking the corner rolled the ball out as if he was giving it to another lad to take but in fact that was the corner. One of their players walked towards the ball while we thought he was going to pick it up and take it but he just turned around, at this stage close to goal just outside box. Crossed in and they scored. VEry clever trick obviously practiced it down to a tee.

Arsenal also did that recently, but the referee awarded a free kick to the other team.

dcarroll · 24-10-2005 9:06pm

kaids wrote:

Arsenal also did that recently, but the referee awarded a free kick to the other team.

Beckham and Giggs tried this before in the Champions League, she got booked for it

Royale with Cheese · 24-10-2005 10:09pm

dcarroll wrote:

Beckham and Giggs tried this before in the Champions League, she got booked for it

I assume by she you mean Beckham.

Guy:Incognito · 24-10-2005 10:54pm

kaids wrote:

Arsenal also did that recently, but the referee awarded a free kick to the other team.

Liverpool did it in the champions league last year. Garcia took it and th eref made him re-take it.

Whats th esituation re: stats? I assume it goes down as a penalty miss for Pires? Also even if Henry had got the pass and scored, surely its still a penalty miss from Pires.

wheres me jumpa · 25-10-2005 12:20am

when did united do it? and liverpool for that matter?

has anyone got a clip of cryuff?? i heard it was sweet.

Guy:Incognito · 25-10-2005 12:27am

wheres me jumpa wrote:

when did united do it? and liverpool for that matter?.

Stekelly wrote:

Liverpool did it in the champions league last year. Garcia took it and th eref made him re-take it..

Thats as close as I can get, cant remember which game. You do realise we had moved on from Penalties to corners?

TheMonster · 25-10-2005 9:13am

The player taking the penalty kicks the ball forward.

He does not play the ball a second time until it has touched another player.

The ball is in play when it is kicked and moves forward.

Does that mean if the ball comes back of the post that the taker cannot play it. I am sure I have seen this happen.

wheres me jumpa · 25-10-2005 9:50am

wheres me jumpa wrote:

when did united do it? and liverpool for that matter?

post seems a bit high and mighty, i wasnt trying to prove you rand, i genuinely cant remember it.

i thought if the ball comes back out the kicker cant touch it. but then alonso followed up the save in the champions league final. so maybe its just the post.

eirebhoy · 25-10-2005 10:01am

wheres me jumpa wrote:

when did united do it? and liverpool for that matter?

has anyone got a clip of cryuff?? i heard it was sweet.

http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=RAAGJ8XJ

Brock · 25-10-2005 10:58am

how the hell was cryuff not offside in that clip

eirebhoy · 25-10-2005 11:24am

Brock wrote:

how the hell was cryuff not offside in that clip

Once you're behind (or on line) with the player who has the ball you can't be offside.

Kingp35 · 25-10-2005 12:00pm

Nice clip Eirebhoy. Again you always manage to find the clips people ask for.

Just say the Pires penalty now. what an idiot. He tried to pass he ball using the bottom of his boot and missed. All he had to do was sidefoot it and Henry would have been in. Thats going to be played for years to come just like David Dunnes trick gone wrong

Pigman II · 25-10-2005 12:05pm

No wonder England can't produce many truly world-class players.

They're brought up a climate of 'try anything inventive or clever and we'll take the piss outta ya for the rest of your career for messing up'

The Rooster · 25-10-2005 12:56pm

TheMonster wrote:

Does that mean if the ball comes back of the post that the taker cannot play it. I am sure I have seen this happen.

Correct. The taker cannot play it if it comes back off the post, unless someone else touches it.

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