most haunted

Frith

hello can anyone tell me when Gordon Smith (the psychic barber ) is taking over most haunted
i gave up watching it cos derek whtshisname drove me mad but i really like gordon s... he's a really good medium and has great integrity

thanks

frith

Riamfada

woke up one day and realised it was all fake/shi*e so just stopped watching

magnumlady

The new series starts sometime in November, not sure of the date. Gordon Smith seems really good.
Dereks new show starts on November the 7th (its called Ghost Town). I hope he calms down a bit!

Thanx 4 The Fish

I hope that when he calms down he sticks to what he is good at too, he obviously has a gift but he has either been pushed into or decided to make things up on occasion which seriously dents his credibility. Once a medium starts to do that I start to think Charlatan.

Frith

hello again,

just received my nov sky mag and most haunted with gorgon smith starts tue 8th nov
frith

magnumlady

Good stuff, I'm looking forward to it. Just hope Yvette sorts herself out now!!

Thanx 4 The Fish

She was on BBC 1 this morning and Chris Moyles played alot of clips of her. Seems that what she does most is scream and scare other people by being so jumpy.

magnumlady

This was printed in The Mirrror:

SPOOKY TRUTH: MOST HAUNTED CON EXPOSED
By Matt Roper
from themirror.co.uk

THE TV show that has spooked millions with its footage of hauntings and
poltergeists is today exposed as a fake - by one its own stars.

Resident parapsychologist Dr Ciaran O'Keeffe has sensationally lifted the
lid on the ghosthunting series, Most Haunted ... and claims that the public
are being deceived by "showmanship and dramatics."

He accuses the show's medium Derek Acorah of hoodwinking viewers by
pretending to communicate with spirits and obtaining information about
locations prior to filming.

The Mirror has also obtained unedited footage which appears to show
presenter Yvette Fielding and her husband faking 'paranormal' occurrences
such as ghostly bumps and knocks.

Most Haunted has quickly achieved cult status since it was launched in 2002
and is LivingTV's most successful programme.

Millions of viewers tune in regularly to watch Ex-Blue Peter girl Yvette and
her team of ghost hunters spend the night in some of Britain's most haunted
locations.

It has made Acorah - who claims to be guided by an Ethiopian spirit guide
called Sam - into one of the country's best-known psychics.

Tonight the show will start its biggest ever live vigil, a four-night
Halloween special from East London following the murderous trail of Jack the
Ripper.

Yvette Fielding has said of the show - which is made by her husband Karl
Beattie's production company Antix Productions: "There is no acting in this
programme, none whatsoever. Everything you see and you hear is real. It's
not made up, it's not acted."

But our investigation reveals how the programme uses careful editing to
mislead viewers and, on at least one occasion, has even lied about the
location of filming.

Ciaran, a lecturer in the paranormal at Liverpool's Hope University, knows
speaking out will probably put an end to his media career... but he believes
viewers should know the truth.

He says: "I think it's time to open the dialogue about what I've experienced
on Most Haunted. There have been many incidents with the medium that have
been brushed under the carpet.

"I was put in the show to give a professional slant to it, to give it an
element of credibility, but the sceptical argument is just swept away.

"In my opinion, we're not dealing with genuine mediumship."

He says he isn't the only member of the crew who feels viewers are being
cheated.

"Other crew members have been irked by Derek and what's going on, because it
turns what should be a serious investigation into a laughing matter."

And our exclusive footage shows other members of the team occasionally
forget they are on camera.

One of our clips, later edited out, shows Karl push an unwitting sound man
in the dark and pretend it was a poltergeist attack.

In the remaining footage he says (after surreptitiously hitting the
soundman): "S**t, did you feel that?"

Yvette: Are you all right? What's happened?

Karl: I felt something touch me on my shoulder.

Soundman: I felt something hit me.

And in another edited clip with medium Ian Lawman, Yvette is seen on camera
making a deep sigh. In the scene that eventually went to air, Ian (after
Yvette sighs) says: "What's that noise?

Yvette: What noise? Like a moan?

Ian: Breathing or something.

Yvette: I heard like an 'arrggh'.

Ciaran, who joined Most Haunted in April 2004 became suspicious of Acorah's
antics on a shoot at Castle Leslie, Co Monaghan in Ireland where a 17th
Century four-poster bed has been claimed to levitate.

Ciaran recalls: "As we walked into the bedroom, Derek touched the bed and
came out with extremely accurate information.

"He insisted he got all the information just from touching the bed. But it
was the wrong bed."

Antix Productions claims the mediums have no idea where they will be filming
or know any details about the history of the locations.

But Ciaran says: "Derek must have had prior knowledge of the locations."

He devised a plan to see if Derek was deliberately deceiving the public.

While on a shoot at Bodmin gaol he invented a long-dead South African jailer
called Kreed Kafer - an anagram of Derek Faker.

"I wrote the name down and asked another member of the crew to mention it to
Derek before filming.

"I honestly didn't think Derek would take the bait. But during the filming
he actually got possessed by my fictional character!"

On the next shoot at Prideaux Place, Cornwall, Ciaran made up another
fictional character, highwayman Rik Eedles - an anagram of Derek Lies. Sure
enough, Derek made contact with the dead outlaw.

Ciaran says: "In my professional opinion we're not dealing with a genuine
medium.

"When Derek is possessed he is doing it consciously - all we are seeing is
showmanship and dramatics."

Ciaran went a step further at Craigievar Castle, near Aberdeen.

"I made up stories about Richard the Lionheart, a witch, and Richard's
apparition appearing to walk through a wardrobe - the lion, the witch and
the wardrobe!" True to form, Derek mentioned all Ciaran's stories - even
though Richard I reigned 500 years BEFORE Craigievar Castle was built.

The final straw came last month when Most Haunted presented a three-night
special from Manchester.

On the second evening, the show claimed to be broadcasting live from the
site of Cheadle's Victorian asylum, a place where - according to presenter
David Bull - thousands died in torment. In fact they were in the derelict
remains of Barnes Convalescence Home - where nobody died in torment.

Ciaran remembers: "Derek was communicating with spirits that sounded as if
they'd been in an asylum, but it was never an asylum."

Yesterday the Mirror confronted Derek Acorah with Ciaran's allegations. He
told us: "I've worked with Ciaran for many shows and he's got every right to
say what he says.

"However, it does shock and surprise me. Not only do I believe that I am a
genuine medium - I live my work 24 hours a day. If I thought that I wasn't a
true medium, I wouldn't work as one."

A spokesman for LivingTV said: "Ciaran O'Keeffe has worked as the
programme's official sceptic for 18 months and during this time has not
brought any of his concerns to our attention.

"LivingTV has not seen any of your filmed evidence, but will fully
investigate your claims."

robindch

The article quoted above lives at:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16303507%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=spooky%2dtruth%2d%2dtv%2ds%2dmost%2dhaunted%2dcon%2dexposed%2dtv%2d-name_page.html

Is anybody surprised?

solas

robin wrote:

Is anybody surprised?

nope.

stormkeeper

I know for a fact that some of the MHL at Maes Artro was faked, and I can say this with complete honesty, seeing as I was told this by the owners of the place at the time...

Thanx 4 The Fish

They have been to a spot quite near to us. The owners were told to clear off (which is fair enough they do not want any false positives) then they brought in their own furniture and the like to give it a more authentic feel. Highly odd if you ask me. Especially when Derek touched a piece of it and says OOOOOOOoooh there is some spookiness from this here bed or something along these lines. The owner maintains that they had never seen said piece of furntiure (was actually a big old chair) before. Still he makes a few quid from people coming to see the place where most haunted was on so he was happy enough.

Zillah

I had begun to get more and more suspicious of Most Haunted for ages, until I actualy stopped watching it. Its nice to finally have something precise.

solas

can't say I've ever watched it although my daughter (who's 11) is a big fan. [says it all really]

Frith

the way this system works makes it wrong....this hapens.. i post something... people reply... that works well.... but then weeks later other people reply but off in a different direction... it pisses me off so much... you get home... check email...told so.and.so has reponded to your post.... then it;s total crap.... nothinging to do with what you posted.... "new posts" have to be used more....PLEASE

Zillah

Frith wrote:

the way this system works makes it wrong....this hapens.. i post something... people reply... that works well.... but then weeks later other people reply but off in a different direction... it pisses me off so much... you get home... check email...told so.and.so has reponded to your post.... then it;s total crap.... nothinging to do with what you posted.... "new posts" have to be used more....PLEASE

Wait. You subscribe to threads, and then moan when you're notified of new posts? I have an ingenius idea...dont subscribe to threads!?!??!?!one

stevenmu

Frith wrote:

the way this system works makes it wrong....this hapens.. i post something... people reply... that works well.... but then weeks later other people reply but off in a different direction... it pisses me off so much... you get home... check email...told so.and.so has reponded to your post.... then it;s total crap.... nothinging to do with what you posted.... "new posts" have to be used more....PLEASE

This is totally off-topic, it should be posted in feedback

It's really a boards.ie wide phenomenon, once the original topic has been dealt with, a thread tends to wander away from it. The emails I used to get before I turned it off always gave me the content of the post aswell, do you not get that too ?

its crap

Gillo

Zillah wrote:

Its nice to finally have something precise.

"Precise" & "The Mirror".......

stormkeeper

I have heard from yet another reputable source that it's nearly all fake. The only ones that were genuine, if I recall were the Edinburgh (sp?) Vaults, the Detention House and one last one that escapes me at the moment. I'm somewhat shattered from an investigation I had last night, which took me ages to get home from!