Hottest faculty?

Blush_01

You guys positively disgust me. And Sangre, before your "witty" spot-the-fat-girl retort, yes, I have a weight problem. But to describe and define a person as a substance is brainless. Fat is a substance. A person is a human being. Calling someone a fat person limits that person solely to a constituent part of their physical make-up. It dehumanises the person you're condemning based solely on the fact that they have a weight problem. It perpetuates a societal problem of refusal to acknowledge that regardless of appearance a person is still a person and as such is entitled to the same respect as any other person is.

This whole thread is silly.

mloc

the thread topic is "hottest" faculty. This more or less implies physical attractiveness. Personality and depth of character just doesnt come into it.

It's got nothing to do with dehumanising people.

Blush_01 wrote:

Fat is a substance. A person is a human being.

If you want to get into semantics pick up a dictionary and do it properly.

adj. fat·ter, fat·test

1. Having much or too much fat or flesh; plump or obese.

It is the same usage as tall, short, thin, wobbly, fast, slow, purple or vibrating. A person can be any of these things. I have seen tall thin slow vibrating people. I have also seen many fat people. They are all people. They are all human beings.

You describe being over weight as having a weight "problem". As, ultimately, it is your body and for you do as you wish with, if you find you have any problems with it it's up to you to fix them, if you so wish. If you find objection to the fact that some people find overweight individuals less attractive, that's fine. It's just a point of view, and you can disagree with it if you like.

It perpetuates a societal problem of refusal to acknowledge that regardless of appearance a person is still a person and as such is entitled to the same respect as any other person is.

This whole thread is silly.

There is no need, on the other hand, to perpetuate your obvious angst with the realities of human mating psychology. It's not a societal problem. It's a human instictive response to promote evolution of the human race. We are inherently programmed to avoid overweight (read: unhealthy) individuals for mating purposes.

Like Quagmire once said, fat chicks need loving too. They just have to pay for it.

Blush_01

Ok, let's do this logically. Take paragraph one of what I said. That's a reply to the posts yourself and Sangre posted previous to my post. Take the line that follows. It's a seperate paragraph in its own right and refers to the entire thread. Please don't confuse the two as following on from eachother.

Now, lets look at what you've said, in relation to what I said. I said calling someone fat was dehumanising, as fat is a substance. So let's do this properly, as you suggest.

Fat:
The ester of glycerol and one, two, or three fatty acids.
Any of various soft, solid, or semisolid organic compounds constituting the esters of glycerol and fatty acids and their associated organic groups.
A mixture of such compounds occurring widely in organic tissue, especially in the adipose tissue of animals and in the seeds, nuts, and fruits of plants.
Animal tissue containing such substances.
A solidified animal or vegetable oil.
Animal tissue consisting chiefly of cells distended with greasy or oily matter.
Oily or greasy matter making up the bulk of adipose tissue and often abundant in seeds.
Any of numerous compounds of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen that are glycerides of fatty acids, are the chief constituents of plant and animal fat, are a major class of energy-rich food, and are soluble in organic solvents but not in water.
A solid or semisolid fat as distinguished from an oil.

Calling someone overweight is the same as using any one of the adjectives you chose above. Overweight is obvious. Fat is offensive. Overweight is a weight problem, as is underweight - obviously it's one that is shared by those who don't bear the physicalities of it, as it's a problem for select posters on this board.

mloc, far from it being merely a case of

objection to the fact that some people find overweight individuals less attractive, that's fine. It's just a point of view, and you can disagree with it if you like.

it's the word fat I'm taking offence to here. You, as an individual, are perfectly entitled to have your own opinion on everything - as am I. If I'm being offensive, I expect it to be pointed out. Mating never came into it here - it was never mentioned, but by yourself. That, once again, was not the issue. Nor was reproduction. I did first psych too, I understand the psychologies behind what you're attempting to do - from personal experience, I'm not buying it. Besides, a symmetrical, rounded and cute face is one of the most important factors. You can't beat biology. Aside from that, there are certain physical qualities that we're naturally programmed with - they have nothing to do with treating another human being with respect.

You're dancing away from the issue and trying to make it something it's not. How about you stop skirting around what I said and actually read what I wrote, rather than what you think I must have written?

mloc

Blush_01 wrote:

Now, lets look at what you've said, in relation to what I said. I said calling someone fat was dehumanising, as fat is a substance.

Overweight is obvious. Fat is offensive.

Fat is also an adjective. Semantics, my dear, semantics. If you prefer the word overweight, great. Dress it up any way you want. Forgive me for not subscribing to your politically correct pedantics.

Mating never came into it here - it was never mentioned, but by yourself. That, once again, was not the issue. Nor was reproduction.

Once again I point out the word "hottest" in the thread topic. Hotness is a synonym for physical attractiveness. Taste aside, there are characteristics are generally found attractive or unattractive. This is related to instinctive mating practices.

I did first psych too, I understand the psychologies behind what you're attempting to do - from personal experience, I'm not buying it...

...You can't beat biology.

I can some up your relevant points in that block of text with one word : none. You understand the psychologies but you don't buy them? I can't beat biology? We are not talking about particular individuals in this thread. I'm not accusing anyone of deserving less respect for being fat. We were merely talking about the level of attractiveness of the students in each faculty. I commented that while there are many women in weight watchers, I wouldn't rush to find a girlfriend there. It was a half serious joke. I really don't see what your getting so upset about.

Aside from that, there are certain physical qualities that we're naturally programmed with - they have nothing to do with treating another human being with respect.

I'm glad you agree.

You're dancing away from the issue and trying to make it something it's not. How about you stop skirting around what I said and actually read what I wrote, rather than what you think I must have written?

I think you're taking the whole thing rather too seriously. If you take offense to the word fat used in such a casual, humorous manner, then perhaps your arguments lie in threads elsewhere. This is wildly off topic.

ShriekingSheet

this has gotten a little outta hand

Chinafoot

Thread locked.

mloc banned for a week.

Grow up ffs.