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Aeturnus Notia
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06-12-2001 2:35pm#1Aeturnus - Eternal
Notia - Birth, to be born
Aeturnus Notia - Eternal Birth
The game starts off in the 'mythical'* Neolithic era of ireland, you are the cheif hunter of your village, all the other warriors look up to you, one day you will become cheiftan and everbody knows it. Then things go wrong, your son goes missing nobody knows where. You set off out of the village after him and use your tracking skills to find him....and find him you do, on an altar with your village shaman about to stab him through the heart.
You intervene and the shaman uses his black magic on you....you feel your life slipping away and right before darkness grabs your soul and your eyes close for the last time you hear him shriek "you have ruined my chance at immortality".....then all is black.
You open your eyes to a horde of barbarians screaming and running at you, you look into your hands and see a sword and sheild, and one word comes to your head "Roman".
*mythical beasts mages etc etc
And so the story goes, you live life after life without knowing a purpose except to live, if you die before the natural end of a lifetime you are reborn into a new life. if you end a life naturally then when you are about to die you find your purpose...to be one of the chosen warrios at armageddon when evil finally challenges good for the last time and all is either lost or won.
i have planned out these era's for life spans (+some examples of people and buildings)
neolithic
http://www.boards.ie/members/jaggeh/Cave_image.jpg
http://www.boards.ie/members/jaggeh/gur.jpg
http://www.boards.ie/members/jaggeh/hunter.jpg
http://www.boards.ie/members/jaggeh/p1668_neolithic_man_0284.jpg
http://www.boards.ie/members/jaggeh/stoneage.jpg
Roman times
http://www.graeme-peacock.com/g_photographs/g_10.jpg
http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andrea/images/sg-f23.jpg
http://www.cyberpsalter.org/HUM122-1/images/archvault.jpghttp://www.yale.edu/yup/images/0300052928.jpg
Dark ages (vikings)
http://www.interlog.com/~bgcarr/vikings.jpg
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/scbaker/pics/raytrace/Vikings.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1350000/images/_1353343_bbc300viking.jpghttp://www.scandinavian-south.com/Images/henning_berserk_sm.jpg
Camelot age (ap 900ad-1100 ad??)
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2001-04-30/camelot.jpg
http://www.illusionsgallery.com/King-Arthur-Butler-L.jpg
http://www.cv81pl.freeserve.co.uk/castles/2000-knights.jpg
http://www.orderofthesacredgrove.com/images/guenivere.jpg
Rennaisance
Colonial
industrial
WW1
WW2
WW3
future pt 1 (early space exp)
future pt 2 (new colonial era)
future pt 3 (spiritual age)
judgement day - the final battle - armageddon
if anyone wants to help on this be my guest i wont say no, but if you do want to help heres what im after at the moment
Textures - for stoneage and roman times
if you do one save in 24bit bitmap form or tiff, if you do more than one save them into a single psd file.(seperate layers)
Models - i can take 3dsmax models / poser4 / truespace, im looking for a model of a roman centurion, a neolithic man, and a mythical shaman (will do myself eventually but just in case)
levels - anything in *.map format is ok just dont texture them as my level builder uses *.txl not *.wad files
if you have any story suggestions send them to me in zip format like this
mystory.zip
- actual story.txt
- brief story.txt (summarise your story)
The engine im using for the moment is genesis3d and reality factory 2, if it turn out that they cant do what i want them to then ill look into using maybe halflife or even vampire
thats all for now i think, any questions?0
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Hmm. This sounds a lot like Empire Earth. Not that that's a bad thing, after all this would presumably be a first person game (?), and you could expand a lot on what Empire Earth did. I'd be happy to help, I can do voices seeing as I guess you'll be needing a lot, I can try translating german and french if that helps any, I can work on the plot or do research, ah ffs I'll do anything, I need the attention
So let me know if ye want any help mmkay?
dr_kauffman2001@hotmail.com (email plz since I don't have MSN messenger or ICQ etc). Ooh also if yer still seriously thinking about this how about a IRC channel?0 -
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The engine im using is genesis 3d, and the add-on engine reality factory, if this doesnt work out im gonna look into modding another game.Originally posted by Lyconix
Sounds interesting, but which engine will it be made under?
engines i like
vampire/summoner
halflife
Q3
Deus Ex
http://www.genesis3d.com/
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Heh... I didn't accuse you of ripping off Empire Earth, just said it's very similar in the idea of playing the game through many eras of history. I also pointed out that it would probably be an FPS as opposed to RTS. In fact I only said positive things about it, calm down man
Aaaanyway back to the game... what kind of software are you likely to be using? $500 specialist software or free downloads? I'm not trying to tell you what to do here but IMO if you use easily available development software you can get a lot more people working on the mod.
As for the engine, niiiice! If you can't get it working I would recommend the Q3 or Deus Ex engines; Half Life really is on it's last legs now running on a nearly 6-year old engine, and Vampire (assuming you mean The Masquerade: Redemption and not some other vamp game) looks good but I can't imagine pitch battles running too well on it. Also it might alienate a lot of potential players by looking a bit "too much like an RPG".
That's me two cents worth for today 0 -
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if you go to genesis3d.com you will see on thier downloads section that this engine is open source
Lyconix - if you die naturally you 'know' you are one of heavens/hells warriors but it doesnt speed up the game any, plus dieng naturally is going to be very VERY VERY
hard to do
zaphod - soz if i seem hostile im a little touchy on the subject of people ripping off ideas (its happened to me before).
and as i said the genesis3d engine is open source so its free.
i think the download is about 30mb, if you want to have a look, just make sure you get reality factory too.0 -
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The Reality Factory Feature List
This documentation includes information about developing Reality Factory-Based games, both with the standard tools that ship with the package, but also covers more standard-Quake and Halflife tools such as WorldCraft, Gensurf and Wally.
Reality Factory is designed so that you, the developer need not know C or C++. Whenever possible, we have avoided using any programming syntax within the documentation, reserving the guts-n-gory details for the programmer's reference (oh right, WHAT reference...but hell, you get whatcha pay for i guess. we're TRYING, believe me
A short (sic) list of what is currently capable in Reality Factory is below, however the true potential is of course, with what you, the developers can think up and create. This is, when compared in price and features, one of the most powerful engines available for popular development, let alone being completely free ;}
Feature List
(bottom bit stolen blatantly from www.genesis3d.com since what they can do, we can do betta :} (just kiddin hootie). The rest of this drivel was written by gekido, mar 12, 2001.)
Gameplay/Game Specific Customizability
Define dozens of custom weapons, each with their own custom projectiles, effects and in-game placement. Custom viewmodels for 3rd and first person, as well as in-game models. Use the existing animations to build your actors, or create your own.
Each Projectile can be customized, including the decal (burn marks, bullet holes, etc) that is left after the explosion/collision effect.
Weapons can be either projectile-based or Melee (hand-to-hand). Hand-to-Hand weapons have custom 'hit sounds' and AltAttacks.
Bring in your own custom actors, which can use 3d OR terrain based path-following for navigation. These can be anything, almost literally, since actors are pretty much unlimited in size. Actors are the key to creating triggered sequences with the engine.
All actors have a health, can take damage. They can also either give or take damage from the player & other NPCs. Healthpacks & 'aid stations' can restore health, cacti placed in a map can potential take health (i'm SURE you can think of something better to do with them, but whatever). Actors, upon their death can ALSO trigger other in-game events (just as worldmodels). This can be used for a wide range of possible in-game actions, which I'll again leave up to you to think up.
Here's a new alternate 'weapon' use that i thought up (ahem) and Terry Morgan has given life to with his most recent demo map & documentation (thanx terry. For example, Doors within Reality Factory can be set so that they require triggering. You then place a control-panel lookin actor beside the door. One of the custom weapons you create is actually a lockpick. Since actors can target specific 'attributes' when they attack, this lockpick 'weapon' can be used to 'attack', or 'hack' the controlpanel. Actors can trigger events (including explosions, lights, particle effects, start world model animations, and so on). So, when the controlpanel 'dies', it triggers the door animation. This is just the simplest of examples that I could think of, but the same concept could be used for just about anything you can think of. Imagine a custom One-Shot Spell that you discover on a scroll. This spell is then used to open a dimensional portal into the enemy's Lair...or whatever...
This is why opensource development is so c00L. Someone creates something for a purpose, and then other people hack that idea to bits and makes completely new and better things from them...etc.etc...but yeah, anyways.
Although BSP-based worlds are inherently static, Reality Factory gives you a wide range of entities & options for bringing your worlds to life. Any kind of elevator/platform device that you can imagine is possible, with rotating, moving, path-following versions equally possible.
Use Logic-Gates to perform various Boolean operations with triggers. This means that you can have several triggers for the same object (two switches for doors, etc), and the Door/platform will be controlled accordingly. (read the docs for a better explanation).
built in Sun lighting creates instant outdoor lighting, which can be colored for any time of day or season (and some that don't exist yet).
Colored, dynamic lighting (including the path-following, triggerable type).
lovely coronas for the Unreal-impaired in the audience.
cool particle effects, including Rain, spray, and others that i can't remember right now.
Lightning Bolts (with moving endpoints even!!), triggerable on game events.
Customizable and VERY cool menu system provides automatic key remapping ability to your game, as well as standard audio & video settings. You can create your own menu layout straight from a text-based ini file. There are two sample menu layouts available for Reality Factory currently.
play AVI cutscenes for intro's & in-between level movies. Additional Support for DirectShow (and via that, mp3, mpeg or windows media support), MIGHT be in the future, but again, no promises.
Weapons can be placed as Turrets within a Map. this is the first foray into the AI/NPC side of the gameplay. Basically you can place a firepoint which will, upon being triggered, fire projectiles through whatever pattern you animate the worldmodel in. Immediately, i can think of any number of Indiana Jones traps that are just beggin for this kinda effect, so yeah. Could easily be adopted to just about any kind of effect, i would imagine...Again, Terry Morgan has created a demo map demonstrating the Turret functionality.
Customize the Player's Statistics, setting their starting attributes. 'attach' HUD elements to attributes to monitor their status on-screen via the Alpha-Transparency enabled HUD!!
I'm forgetting TONs i'm sure, but this should give you an idea. I'll add more to the list as i think of them or Ralph develops them :}
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(oh and here's the rest of the 'catch' phrases that your potential publisher will want to know. Tell them I sent you
Environment
Exceptionally fast rendering
Radiosity lighting
Integrated rigid body physics simulation support for world objects
Pre-computed lighting for animating light intensities and simulating caustics
Environment uses BSP trees for fast visibility culling
Dynamic RGB lights
Dynamic shadows
Dynamic fog
Dynamic mirrors
Dynamic water effects
Dynamic texturing effects such as procedurals, animations, blending, and morphing
Area portals allow selective rendering of world geometry
Translucent world geometry for windows, or other effects
Spherically mapped sky for seamless sky and horizon
3D sound positioning and attenuation
User extendable special effects and particle systems
Bitmap and Windows font support for labeling the screen, textures, or bitmaps
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Editor
CSG editor builds geometry optimized for 3D environments
Built in keyframe system to animate world geometry
Multiple compilation options, including fast recompiles for changes to non-geometrical objects such as lights and entities
Configurable entity definitions for sharing level data with applications
Built in physics entity definitions for specifying interactions between physically controlled objects
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Characters, Actors/Props
Seamless soft-skin polygonal characters
Automatic visibility culling for optimal performance
Tools to support character and animation authoring for 3D Studio Max, Truespace, and MilkShape 3d.
Smoothing group support for high quality shading
No limit to the number of materials used to texture or color characters
Materials can be animated using tinting, procedurals, animations, blending, and morphing
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Character Animation
Animation based on either a hierarchical or a non-hierarchical bone system
Arbitrarily spaced keyframes in time
High quality interpolation between keys - second order continuity across orientation keys
Sharing of animations across different characters
Animations can be blended and mixed or partially applied
Animations are optimized to take up minimal space
Interpolation and blending subsystems can be used independently to animate other user objects
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Driver Support
Glide
D3D (full screen and in a window)
Software driver for support on machines without hardware acceleration (full screen and in a window)
AMD optimized software driver (full screen and in a window)
OpenGL Support (beta, somewhat glitchy still, sorry)
Built in texture and lightmap caching
Takes advantage of 3D hardware that supports multitexturing
2D bitmap overlays
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Technical Details
Physics subsystem can be used to control world geometry, or independently to animate other user objects
Virtual file system allows file IO access to collection files, memory files, dos file systems, and user extendable file systems transparently
Math support for vectors, matrices, and quaternions
Comprehensive support for texture and bitmap formats, mipmaps, and conversions
Fast collisions against the world geometry
Volumetric queries to determine the type of volume(s) a box lies in
Multiple worlds can be loaded and rapidly switched between
Multiple renders from different cameras can be mixed in a single frame
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Originally posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Just had a thought. What if you kill yourself in the game? Can't really have people skipping to the next time zone by topping themselves. Any ideas for a suicide deterrent?
if you read up you will see that you become either heavens or hells warrior during the final battle (you among others)
suicide while skipping you to the next lifetime, will not prepare you for the final battle and.
each lifetime will add to your skills/experience by suicideing you forego any attempt at gaining skill and by the time armageddon comes around you will be a wimp unable to win the game 0 -
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