Why am I Irish?

Johnny_the_fox

who really cares if they are half-irish.

its great to hear that there is so many people claimin to be irish. unlike are english friends*. how many english-americas have u heard of???












*friends to many.... i rite

mike65

Originally posted by Johnny_the_fox


its great to hear that there is so many people claimin to be irish. unlike are english friends*. how many english-americas have u heard of???

Yeah thats true! Its always another ethnic group banging on.
I suppose the anglo-american population just does'nt feel the need. Quite right too.

Mike.

Boston

Originally posted by ][cEMAN**


Give me 1 reason why anybody should be forced to submit to generalised bias or bullying? The fact that this kind of division goes on in schools means that as people grow up (though some catch on) a lot of people think it's just the norm and that it's OK.

Because thats what real life is about, and pretending that someday kids wont go into that real life is only going to mess them up.

I got alot of this **** at school, and it was hell, but i got through it and it made me the man im today. i realised life is as easy or hard as you allow it to be on yourself.

someone mays a rascial slur, you have a choice of how you let that effect you.


Sands, show some god damn respect if not for a moderator but for another user of this board.

Sand

LOL You remind me of those guys from Yahoo Chat. Theyd loudly announce to all and sundry they were going to ignore so and so- and yet they could still magically see what they said. Yeah you got my respect:)

WhiteWashMan

its one thing to be irish, or half irish or whatever you would like to call yourself.
its completely another thing altogether to go on about bullying of school children and ethnic slurs etc.
why?
because nationality has nothing to do with how people resond to you, it may be a weak excuse, but if someone is racisict, thats there fúcking problem. if someone bullys for having red hair, thats sad (although in truth, gingers deserve it )
i have been abused from a dizzy height for a being a protestant in ireland.i have actually been hated bya group of people for not being a catholic, but because my mother was born into a protestant family. but it doesnt stop me from thinking im irish.

at the end of the day you can debate whos right and whos wrong in the 'how irish am i' contest, but it really doesnt matter. what matters is how you see yourself. and if somoene cant respect you (apart from irish americans who we all hate) then whats the problem?

and remember, take care of yourselves, and each other....

Boston

i do have you ignored muppet, but when i see you post directly below mine, then i know you have said something, probably perfoundly ignorant, selfrightious and offencive to me.

Also you get in so many peoples faces, thats they are contantly quoting you

Boston

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
because nationality has nothing to do with how people resond to you, it may be a weak excuse, but if someone is racisict, thats there fúcking problem. if someone bullys for having red hair, thats sad (although in truth, gingers deserve it )
i have been abused from a dizzy height for a being a protestant in ireland.i have actually been hated bya group of people for not being a catholic, but because my mother was born into a protestant family. but it doesnt stop me from thinking im irish.

you keep on talking about bullying, id never, and have never said something to someone just to hurt them, andthen been amused by their pain. i think thats the difference between friendly slaging between mates and bullying. you all ways know where to draw the line.


as for irish, you are irish, probably more so then your would be haters. These people arnt irish, If they were, they might go and have a look at irish history, and cop themselfs on

Sand

i do have you ignored muppet, but when i see you post directly below mine, then i know you have said something, probably perfoundly ignorant, selfrightious and offencive to me.

And yet you knew that I was implying that you didnt have me ignored. And when I mentioned your command of the english language (which wasnt directly below any post of yours). Or do you have me ignored, but when you see Ive posted something you take it off to check out what Ive said? How could I not respect you?:rolleyes: If you want to ignore me, fine, Itll be tough but ill get over the mental trauma somehow - But stop being so melodramtic:p

its one thing to be irish, or half irish or whatever you would like to call yourself. its completely another thing altogether to go on about bullying of school children and ethnic slurs etc.
why?

I agree. I wouldnt consider slagging of other nationalities etc by some group of yobs to be an Irish trait. For example wasnt Prince Harry found to have abused a French member of staff at his local drinking den? And the Queen Mothers admitted dislike of Germans as people is merely reflective of the english mentality regarding the germans (No victory too small or too long ago to be gloated about again:) ). As people have said, you get a different reaction when foreigners assume you are English, as to when they find out youre Irish. The Americans and Canadians have a similar relationship of slagging each other. The French hate everyone (B4stards:) ). All of this is relatively mild. It isnt right, but it would be wrong to assume that being Irish means you get a kick out of slagging off other nationalities. As for bullies theyll find some exscuse to bully somebody.

adnans

i have an irish passport, drink guinness all the time, pay taxes to the taxman (well i used to before i went back to college), bagged a bunch of irish ladies, went to galway at least once, finished the notorious leaving certificate but i have no irish blood in me whatsoever and i wasnt born here. does that make me an irishman?

adnans

Monkey

"I see nothing positive about or society, i hate this place and once im qualified, i will be glad to up and leave.
this is one depressing country if you can see the bigger picture."

We'd be better of with out people who adopt that kind of attitude.

mike65

Originally posted by Sand


the Queen Mothers admitted dislike of Germans as people is merely reflective of the english mentality regarding the germans

I'm sure you got that wrong Sand, I thought the Queen Mum was a bit of a Nazi herself....

Mike.

Boston

Originally posted by mike65


I'm sure you got that wrong Sand, I thought the Queen Mum was a bit of a Nazi herself....

Mike.

she is a nazi, or was before the war. she just said she disliked germans to distance herself from it

WhiteWashMan

Originally posted by Boston


you keep on talking about bullying,

um, no i dont. someone else emntioned it, i was just replying using the same train of thought...

Boston

well the topic is about generalization so i decided to keep with that train of thought and generlize

RopeDrink

All of my above ranting had nothing to do with School really, although that was also quite a hard time - It started since I was thirteen and moved over, and has continued for almost six years...

I have to deal with racial issues as well as my mother being in a permanant coma, constant family problems and a host of other depressing things - You learn to live with it all, and I can see were your coming from Boston - I just thought I'd post a portion of the racial things that can happen to people who are merely English (Or Irish in other matters)

We're all Humans, guys, no matter what origin... I'd post more if i had the time - Have to dash - Cheers for the concern Boston. (Unless it was sarcasm with which I will not respond to )

Victor

Originally posted by Boston
she is a nazi, or was before the war. she just said she disliked germans to distance herself from it

Eh, doesn't she have German relations?

paris

EIRE -10 (no one evvvveeeeer says that)

I know this is off topic, but it's something I've often wondered about. Why don't we evvvveeeeeeer say 'Eire'. It's on the back of our coins etc. I know that we're supposed to be slightly insulted if someone refers to Ireland as Eire...but...erm...why?

Boston

Originally posted by Victor


Eh, doesn't she have German relations?

exactly

Victor

Originally posted by paris
I know this is off topic, but it's something I've often wondered about. Why don't we evvvveeeeeeer say 'Eire'. It's on the back of our coins etc. I know that we're supposed to be slightly insulted if someone refers to Ireland as Eire... but... erm... why?

Well, its along the lines of typical usage in English of always referring to Munich and Cologne, not München and Köln.

Or indeed the 2 guys with American accents, chatting in DNC today (one working here, the other a tourist). The 'worker' made his excuses and got up to leave, saying, "Slán .... thats what _we_ say here".

mike65

Originally posted by Victor


2 guys with American accents, chatting in DNC today (one working here, the other a tourist). The 'worker' made his excuses and got up to leave, saying, "Slán .... thats what _we_ say here".

Aarrrrrghh!

I'm not not even Irish...

Mike.

WhiteWashMan

i must visit this dnc place.
it seems to be the centre of cultural relations for ireland.....