NTL deploy cable-modem "broadband" in Dublin since Monday 4th Feb.

SkepticOne

Originally posted by Dustaz
Skeptic, where did the interview with Steven Carter come from? The journo seems to be well on the ball.

(i bet its from an Ioffl press release or something and ill be emabaressed )

It is from Jamie Smyth of the Irish Times. The interview is in the technology section of the main ireland.com website and did not appear in the paper itself.

spongebob

friday 30/0902 or thereabouts near the back of the supplement on friday.

Skeptic has quoted the bulk of the article and with it the overweening impression that was given

IT when do we paddies get jam?

NTL we are spreading jam at a phenomal rate everywhere

IT when do we paddies get jam?

NTL we have great plans and think our jam is yummEEEE

IT when do we paddies get jam?

NTL (Finally) but we think ye only watch television, thats the flavour of jam ye are getting for the foreseeeable.

The best thing is to ask NTL yourself and post their ....no doubt interesting.. answers in here when you get them.......next year I suppose. One of these should know.

John Gregg
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
ddi: 0171-909-2000
ext: (729) 2003
mobile: 0385-502-161
fax: 0171-909-2012
e-mail: john.gregg@ntl.com
location: London (Long Acre)

Stephen Carter
Managing Director and Chief Operating Officer
ddi: 01256 754500
ext: (711) 4500
mobile: -
fax: 01256 754501
e-mail: Stephen.Carter@ntl.com
other contact information:
PA - Karen Mott, 711 4502

Mr Peter Douglas
Group MD Broadcast
ddi: 01962 822214
ext: (716) 2214
mobile: 07774 650474
fax: 01962 822555
e-mail: peter.douglas@ntl.com

Mr Scott Falconer
Managing Director Consumer Services
ddi: 01256 752003
ext: (711) 2003
mobile: 07881 500953
fax: 01256 752908
e-mail: scott.falconer@ntl.com

M

De Rebel

Originally posted by Muck
IT when do we paddies get jam?

That article makes it pretty conclusive. No jam. No cheese. No hang (as in sandwich). No dairy gold. Not even a spread of blue band. In fact, no bread, and not even a few crumbs. Apart from a few isolated pockets, Broadband via cable is dead.

At least Carter has the decency to state his case, devoid of ambiguous waffle.

spongebob

Nowadays, faced with a choice of

SKY
NTL or
Chorus

I would simply recommend SKY to people, there is no point in hanging around waiting for the others to roll out broadband anywhere else....never mind the crap analog service on NTL around my area with no digital option. The customer service and picture quality from NTL and Chorus is simply AWFUL. We might have put up with it if we were offered extras such as Internet and/or Telephone service but instead we simply have a juvenile SKY with not a care in the world as to what it is doing.

Cable is dead in Ireland, it will be gone in 2-3 years . It will have been a victim of its own incompetence.

The Cable companies have NO telephone service anywhere, that runs over cable.
There is no Broadband in Connacht
There is no Broadband in Ulster
There are 2 small deployments in Munster
There are 2 larger deployments in Leinster

Hopefully the government will renationalise NTL once its value drops to 10 Million or so. Then we may have a future.

In the meantime FLEE

M

Hannibal_12

Originally posted by Muck
Nowadays, faced with a choice of

SKY
NTL or
Chorus

I would simply recommend SKY to people, there is no point in hanging around waiting for the others to roll out broadband anywhere else....never mind the crap analog service on NTL around my area with no digital option. The customer service and picture quality from NTL and Chorus is simply AWFUL. We might have put up with it if we were offered extras such as Internet and/or Telephone service but instead we simply have a juvenile SKY with not a care in the world as to what it is doing.

Cable is dead in Ireland, it will be gone in 2-3 years . It will have been a victim of its own incompetence.

The Cable companies have NO telephone service anywhere, that runs over cable.
There is no Broadband in Connacht
There is no Broadband in Ulster
There are 2 small deployments in Munster
There are 2 larger deployments in Leinster

Hopefully the government will renationalise NTL once its value drops to 10 Million or so. Then we may have a future.

In the meantime FLEE

M

Yes, another nail in the coffin of broadband. The only viable widespread option is now (gasp) €ircon!. Wheres my plane ticket....

De Rebel

Originally posted by Muck
In the meantime FLEE

Mind you, in fairness, we are probably being unfair to Caseys in Dungarvan. They were always a step or two ahead of the rest. And apparantly they continue that position. Fair dues to them.

spongebob

There are 3 small deployments in Munster

From the Census Here we see that the combined population of Thurles Clonmel and the inadvertently overlooked Dungarvan is

6874 + 15200 + 7218

About 30,000 and thats assuming everybody in those towns has decent cable. 0.75% of the population

There are 2 small deployments in Leinster

Kilkenny and spots in Dublin. NTL will not list these spots despite being asked, pupoulation coverage.

8507 + 25000 (assume)

About 34000 and again assuming decent cable. 0.85% of the population

So 1.6% of the population has some chance of getting cable internet.

Wow, spanking.

M

SkepticOne

Chorus' cablenet service is available to around 12,000 homes in Clonmel, Kilkenny and Thurles.

If you add all the alternative "last mile" platforms together, less than 2% of homes are covered. This means that Eircom have a 98% monopoly on last mile provision.

Ireland is pretty unique here. In the US and the other place, Europe, most of the larger towns will have two-way cable thus providing price competition to the encumbent telco. ADSL at over $100 simply is not viable. The whole EU regulatory framework depends on having this level of competition. We can't expect them to change just for us. We have to do this ourselves.

zynaps

Originally posted by SkepticOne
We can't expect them to change just for us. We have to do this ourselves.

Any suggestions?
Lay our own cable?
Grab some wireless gear and make a mass movement towards IrishWAN?
Storm eircom's offices with axes?

Noticed one of their exchanges near Camden Street in town while passing by... resisted the urge to throw things at the blue and orange vans though

zynaps