NTL

Celt

Well i got the fibre optic 56k on friday, so im waiting for the CD with the isp and stuff, so i thought i would try it with utv interenet.
Guess what its so much better.
My ping is now 100-200 less playing cs.
Does anyone know if there is a faster way to get the disc from them than waiting 5 days for it in the post?

Stephen

fiber-optic 56k? What's that? Is it just like a high quality POTS line?

MiCr0

whitelancer
did u get the £20/month deal?

Celt

Yup, its 56k through their fibre optic lines.

Lenny

well white,
I was waiting for over 1 month for my cd
keep ringing them up and asking them were it is
after 3 weeks I started doing that
I got it within 3 days after I rang
also their ISP is total crap
their router is bugger for online gaming
just wait and try ...

Father-Rage

what the hell is this 56k fiber thing

where?
how much?
any better?

Celt

Well OJ as soon as i have the moeny for cable(probly next week) Ill be getting it.And u have snl which is the crappest isp i have ever laid eyes on.

Lenny

what is the isp snl ?
I am planning on getting cable also in a while though ..
as for your quesiotn Father
fibre optic 56k line is
you are on an eircom line yeah ?
you connect to the net at around 44,000bps ?
with ntl (depending on your modem) you can connect at 56,000bps
and download at a full 56k speed
as for me, I am downloading constantly at 11.8kb/sec on a dialup modem

Lenny

I know what you mean by SNL
I don't hvae SNL
I got rid of them months ago

Kali

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by OJ:
and download at a full 56k speed
as for me, I am downloading constantly at 11.8kb/sec on a dialup modem</font>

thats brilliant. considering the max throughput for a 56kbps connection is 7k/sec

and fibre optic lines into everyones houses?
my god the futures here already and its using V.90 hahaha

Skeptic1

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Father-Rage:
what the hell is this 56k fiber thing

where?
how much?
any better?</font>

I presume this means 56K dialup through the upgraded NTL cable network. Unless I'm very much mistaken, it's not fiber directly into the home but a higher quality copper cable. These cables connect a number of houses to a 'node' and these nodes are connected together using fiber optics.

This service is not to be confused with NTS's isp service over Eircom lines (which sucks).

Lenny

I'm serious Kali
I am download 1 meg in less than a minute

bugler

how exactly?! tell us?

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Lenny

I seem to get excellant downlaod rates off the uk servers and not as good as irish though

Miguel_Sanchez

By any chance is this NTL access available in Galway?

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MiCr0

oj,
i use ntl 56k access and never had any probs
i always get a >200 ping to irish cs servers and never get dropped

Renton

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kali:
thats brilliant. considering the max throughput for a 56kbps connection is 7k/sec

and fibre optic lines into everyones houses?
my god the futures here already and its using V.90 hahaha</font>

He's right u know. Basically how it works is like a so.

You have yer 56k modem
thats 56 kilo bits per second
you devide that by 8 (56/8) and you get 7 kilo bytes per second AKA (7 K/sec)

Now OJ I'd love to hear how you get 11.8 k/sec from your 56k, when thats impossible

Come'on lets have it

RentZ

Skeptic1

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by OJ:
I seem to get excellant downlaod rates off the uk servers and not as good as irish though</font>

All their traffic goes over their own dedicated lines to a UK interconnect point so a British site is likely to be faster than an Irish one.

m1ke

I remember a lad telling me he can get 11k/sec downloads off a 56k leased line. Maybe that's what ye have.

spanner_head

I have that wonderful NTL dial up. It's OoOo so good and fast and never an engaged tone!

Just let you know it took about 1 month for the CD to arrive. So there telling you 5 days and they are waffling!!!

later
spanner_heard

Gerry

You can get 11k a second if you are downloading pure text, or anything uncompressed. If you are downloading compressed data,( everything generally is) then you cant get 11k. Sure 56k is better than 48k or whatever, but theres no need to bull**** about it. On single isdn, I can get 9k absolute maximum, usually its 7.5 - 8.5k. On dual I can get 16k, usually 13-15k. So you are trying to say that your 56k modem is almost as good as dual isdn. eh yeah, good one. Do the math next time.

Miguel_Sanchez

Yeah yeah yeah. Before the argument about download rates takes over completely will someone give me (who knows nought about anything) the run down on this service.

Where can you get it? Is it Dublin only? How's it work etc. etc.

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Kali

just to put a nail in the download rates coffin...

text appears at higher than normal rates because it gets compressed by the modems protocol (V.90 or whatever) automatically therefore reducing the size of the file dramatically (as text compresses extremely well due to recurring bit patterns) thus it appears as if it is being transmitted at a higher than average speed.

example: a 10k text file reduces to 1k, this is then takes 1 second to transmit across, therefore the percieved rate is 10k/sec whereas it is 1k/sec.

Lenny

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Skeptic1:
All their traffic goes over their own dedicated lines to a UK interconnect point so a British site is likely to be faster than an Irish one.

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I knew that

as for my connection rundown
its total ****e
I always get dropped
I've mailed them loads of times,
sent them modem logs of getting dropped
and they just sa its 'under investigation'
I sometimes get a engaged tone
but its nothing to complain about though

Celt

Sounds a hell of a lot better than SNL,
but anyways, im getting cable next week for sure, and ill tell you how good it is.