Referendum looks set for defeat [11:20]

daveirl · 07-03-2002 12:23pm #1

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Biffa Bacon · 07-03-2002 2:19pm

Unfortunately it looks that way. That'll be five referenda I've lost in a row now.

In my opinion, the best solution now would be to do what Garret FitzGerald proposed in his column in the Irish Times on Saturday. Get rid of all the current abortion amendments and instead insert one that says that nothing in the Constitution may be interpreted as meaning that anyone has the right to an abortion. Then just allow the Oireachtas to legislate as to what circumstances it might be allowed.

WhiteWashMan · 07-03-2002 2:27pm

Originally posted by Biffa Bacon
Unfortunately it looks that way. That'll be five referenda I've lost in a row now.

In my opinion, the best solution now would be to do what Garret FitzGerald proposed in his column in the Irish Times on Saturday. Get rid of all the current abortion amendments and instead insert one that says that nothing in the Constitution may be interpreted as meaning that anyone has the right to an abortion. Then just allow the Oireachtas to legislate as to what circumstances it might be allowed.

why not just have areferendum to allow abortion?

Bard · 07-03-2002 2:43pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

why not just have areferendum to allow abortion?

That would have certainly made more sense than the confusing poll which they put to the people yesterday.

Occidental · 07-03-2002 2:50pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

why not just have areferendum to allow abortion?

Now there's an idea. But whats the betting we get another half baked referendum instead.

Biffa Bacon · 07-03-2002 3:18pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

why not just have areferendum to allow abortion?

I thought the pro-choice shower were opposed to divisive and confusing referendums?;)

Terminator · 07-03-2002 3:26pm

Nobody in the govt wanted this referendum - wasn't it forced on us by some independent turning the screws on FF?

Typedef · 07-03-2002 3:34pm

Mildred Fox!

Lemming · 07-03-2002 3:47pm

Originally posted by Typedef
Mildred Fox!

here here!!

Hopefully bertie'll think twice about listening to her again.

Terminator · 07-03-2002 3:51pm

Thanks for the info - did a search and found her bio

http://www.rte.ie/news/dailguide/tds/foxm.html

Seems like a right weapon

Occidental · 07-03-2002 3:55pm

We'll swap you in Westmeath for Mary O'Rourke

seamus · 07-03-2002 3:59pm

http://www.rte.ie/news/features/abortion/talliesoverall.html

RTE's guesstimates. May be stomach-wrenchingly close. Recounts anyone? Then maybe we'll recheck the votes manually. Then we'll recheck them by hand. Then we'll count out the people who didn't make a perfectly biaxially symmetrical x.........

[A more exact table:
http://www.ireland.com/focus/abortion/news/results.htm

. Quite distressing. There's a lot of Dublin votes to come in tho that could help push it in the right direction...... ]

Referendum looks set for defeat [11:20]

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