Punk Bands

bombidol

Which band do you think sums up what Punk Music should sound like?

Enygma

Has to be the Sex Pistols. I wouldn't even class bands like Blink 182 or Sum 41 etc. as Punk.

Punk is more than just the sound, it's the attitude, the decadence, the self-destruction.

That said, I'd prefer to go see Blink 182, Greenday and Pennywise anyday.

Punk sucked ass.

Lolo

That's a pitiful attempt at 'summing up punk'. You haven't mentioned a single American 70s punk band there, and there was a lot more to the first wave of British punk than the Clash and the Pistols. Not to mention 80s bands like Crass and Conflict (I was never a fan, but they were an important part of the movement.)

You obviously weren't listening to the 2-parter on punk that's been on for the last 2 Saturday nights on BBC Radio 2 (although my reception of BBC 2 from Dublin was pretty ropey). There's also a series called 'The Punk Years' in post-production at the moment, it will be shown on Play UK in June and hopefully elsewhere after that. It looks like it's going to be a very good in-depth history.

bombidol

this is a quick sum up of punk bands that the average joe would know, true there are a lot of bands i could have added in, bands like stiff little fingers and so on but not everyone would know em.

Bomb

francie brady

In my opinion there has only ever been one true Punk band and thats the Sex Pistols. Punk is a image and an atitude. Singing about getting off with your girlfriend, skarte boarding, or running around the streets isn't punk. The Sex Pistols music really did make a change that no other band ever did before or since. They rocked the royal Family and rocked them to the fountains. The royals haven't been the same since "god saved the queen".

The Stiff Little Fingers came close but where always to scared to upset people. They walked both sides of the fence. The Clash came close too.

In saying that most "punk"bands are good. But shame theres no mention of great Bands like The Ramones, Misfits, Dropkick Murphys and so on.

Drunk pirate

Blink and the ramones!

Ruaidhri

it's pennywise for me(ha!)
after that it's onto metal.

pugwall

What about the Undertones? Teenage Kicks.....BRILLIANT:smoke:
The Ramones also Rawk, punk that is

Dont be at yourself

The Vandals.

screamager

eh...these punk debates usually turn out pretty funny. i'm not much into it myself but everything i've read about and heard people talk about completely contradicts the other person. like...the clash were bandwagon jumpers who ruined it for everyone...or the sex pistols were just advertising for malcolm maclaron, so they werent punk...or blink arent punk cos they're on a major and all that ****e. like i'm sure everyone could come up with a reason why a band isn't punk. i like some punk bands but i think its kinda sad that people will just argue and argue over what a band is or what punk is. and what they say is never an opinion...its gospel and anyone whos says it isn't is wrong. get over it.

DrunkLeprachaun

Ramones and Black Flag. Failing that, Sex pistols, I guess.

cournioni

Where the **** are Biohazard and the Misfits? They should be in there and either of em would get my vote.

I suppose since they aren't there I'll vote for the Sex Pistols.

alb

Didn't the Ramones more or less kick off the whole 'genre' in the states?

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Where the **** are the Misfits?

Yeah! Misfits!

And AFI, where the hell are AFI!?

bombidol

Biohazard were metal, one of the first new metal bands to start coming out with rap and stuff on some of their tracks, collabs with onyx and stuff

BomB

Frank Grimes

The Dead Kennedys should be there too, but from the list I'd have to go for the Pistols.

Lolo

The Stooges.

Frank Grimes

I guess you could say the Velvet Underground too, although they started the ball rolling for punk, about 10 years before it all happened.

Lolo

Technically you can go back even further to the Kingsmen and all the thrashy three-chord-wonder 60s garage bands. I kind of look at the Stooges as being the first 'real' punk band who had the entire package sewn up - image, attitude, lyrics, etc. The Velvets did lay down a lot of the punk blueprints but they had their mellow 'Sunday Morning'/ 'Pale Blue Eyes' side as well which I think disqualifies them (the mellowest the Stooges ever got was 'Dirt'!).

four_star

are greenday a punk band??

Frank Grimes

Originally posted by Lolo
Technically you can go back even further to the Kingsmen and all the thrashy three-chord-wonder 60s garage bands. I kind of look at the Stooges as being the first 'real' punk band who had the entire package sewn up - image, attitude, lyrics, etc. The Velvets did lay down a lot of the punk blueprints but they had their mellow 'Sunday Morning'/ 'Pale Blue Eyes' side as well which I think disqualifies them (the mellowest the Stooges ever got was 'Dirt'!).

The Velvets layed down a blueprint for most music Try listening to White Light / White Heat for a fore runner to punk. Also John Cale produced the stooges first album, so there's another link.

Lolo

I'm not disagreeing with you about their influence on punk (and also the influence of Cale and Reed's solo stuff), I just don't think you can brand them a punk band 'casue their stuff is more diverse than the label allows.:alien:

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Frank Grimes

I'm not disagreeing with you about their influence on punk...

I know, I'm just using any chance I get to go on about how good they are

metalish

Where's Nirvana or Foo Fighters???

DrunkLeprachaun

Nirvana and Foo-Fighters are exactly where they should be: not there. Nirvana are grunge and Foo Fighters are either grunge or just rock.

Frenzy

How about Television they started of the whole New York scene in CBGB's with Hilly Kristal in the 70s.
Also:
'The Dead Boys'
'Talking Heads'
'Ramones'
'Richard Hell and the voidoids'
'Jonathan Richman'
'Velvet Underground'
'Iggy Pop'
'Blondie'

Greenday and Sum 41! They aint punk the're Pop-Punk!!:P

Frank Grimes

I wouldn't count Jonathan Richman (with or without the Modern Lovers) as punk, great music without a doubt. I'd put him into the same category as the Velvets, more a forerunner.

Lolo

I'm not sure if I consider Television to be punk, they were too musically adept and their songs were too long (!). Like the Patti Smith Group, they get labelled as punk coz they were part of the whole CBGBs scene, but if your're going to nit-pick (which i am!) they were really new wave.

Blondie are another band whose range is too diverse to qualify them as being a 'proper' punk band, although they did do punk extremely well ("Livin' in the Real World', 'Walk Like Me', etc.)

But what about:
The Buzzcocks (one of the most ripped-off sounds around, even to this day)
The Slits
The Raincoats
The Only Ones
The Damned (early stuff)
Siouxsie and the Banshees (ditto)

All very different bands, all very influential.

DerekD Goldfish

Sex pistols and the clash were great
the ramones, buzzcocks and the stranglers could also have been included