esat adsl update

yankinlk

I guess I was forst to the boards to post this useless bit of info...here's an email i got from esat today. and basically it says blah blah blah, we will send you a monthly email update on the state of play for adsl in ireland....

Hello xxxxxxx

Thank you for registering for information on the Esat Fusion High-Speed
Internet Access service. We look forward to keeping you up-to-date on
developments with ADSL in Ireland and in other countries as they happen.

In Esat Fusion we are really excited about ADSL and the benefits it will
bring to your Internet experience. Behind the scenes, we are working to
bring you the best possible service and to make this offering available
as soon as possible.

As soon as details of the pricing, product offering, processes and roll
out plan is agreed at an industry level we will be in a position to
communicate these details to you. Esat Fusion, along with all other
operators are awaiting these industry standards. In the meantime, we
will send you an email every month to keep you updated.

If you require more information, please visit our ADSL information site
by clicking on the following link:
http://www.esatfusion.com/adsl/adslp1.shtml

Esat Fusion - keeping you in contact, informed and entertained.

Dustaz

yeh, i got this too, i just loved this line..

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">We look forward to keeping you up-to-date on
developments with ADSL in Ireland and in other countries as they happen. </font>

rofl, Other Countries??? I guess its the nearest were going to get to actually having it any time soon.

Hecate

mabye they'll get around to giving us hdsl

Dustaz

....delivered by bright red speaking pigs that fly in thru your window

tHE vAGGABOND

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">As soon as details of the pricing, product offering, processes and roll
out plan is agreed at an industry level we will be in a position to
communicate these details to you</font>

ROFL

WhiteWashMan

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by yankinlk:

Hello xxxxxxx
</font>

thats the stupidist name i ever did see

Joe22

so whats this meant to mean, the last odtr report said that eircom had till october to revise its flat rate network access charges,( the way i read it anyway, who be taken different) so what exactly are esat bull****ing on about, they cant order it untill llu is out of the way

Kali

a pure marketing mail to keep up interest for the potential consumer and investors.
bet you that "monthly update" will be every two months or more, i mean how many times can they rephrase the exact same (lackof) information?

Joe22

im sure they will try, ive made my mind up, if i dont have adsl by october im going sat, simple as that, probably keep sat and adsl when adsl finaly come in, 20 a month for 500k isnt bad

dahamsta

They changed it again. Or they're using rand()...

Many thanks for contacting us regarding the forthcoming introduction of our ADSL service.

Like you we are really excited about the implications for Internet users - particularly in terms of increased speed and cost benefits.

At the moment we are putting the finishing touches to our roll-out plan and a comprehensive ADSL brochure will be available in the near future which will spell out all the details you are likely to need. We will forward a copy as soon as it becomes available.

Once again, thanks for your interest and if you will just bear with us for a short time longer, you can soon avail of the time-saving and money-saving benefits which ADSL will bring.

dahamsta

<dahamsta is sorely tempted to set up a cron job to add an "interested party" a day...>

TwoShedsJackson

ONLY GENESIS CAN SAVE US NOW!!!!!!!!

damnyanks

seriously how long till some sort of cable modem apart from isdn is out for every place in dublin? is it all in eircoms hands or what ?

dahamsta

[Eircom have nothing to do with cable (neither does ISDN for that matter). Well, not directly anyway{1}.)

Aside from my being anal, yes, it's all down to Eircom. Actually, it's all down to Local Loop Unbundling, because the other operators don't want to go down the bitstream road (and rightly so). That's why they all "pulled out of DSL trials", as Irish "technology journalists" -inaccurately - put it. The ODTR gave Eircom another month to revise their reference offer, so that's four months we're behind in complying with the European directive now. But of course, neither the ODTR or Eircom are /really/ breaking any rules, because they've (arguably, and I would argue against) done what they were told.

At this stage though, I think we really have to lay the blame squarely at the feet of Etain Doyle for not getting tough with Eircom. Eircom are only doing what any large business in the same position would do these days - protecting their assets. When LLU comes about, it'll kill a good portion of their current and future business, including - but by no means limited to - leased lines, which is a huge part of Eircom's core business now that Eircell is going, going, gone. Eircom are just trying to postpone the inevitable. Again, they're doing what business do. I don't agree with it, and /I/ wouldn't do it, but that's what we have to content with these days.

/just another of dahamsta's periodic rants/


{1} Actually, they /are/ affecting the cable Internet business in a roundabout manner, in that there isn't anything NTL and Chorus really have to compete against. They could get the jump on Esat, Genesis and Eircom if they really wanted to, but it would be quite expensive to set up, and with exclusive cable licences a bit hairy at the moment, they might be right. (The ODTR should never have issued exclusive cable licences. Anyone with De Multi could tell you that.) That said, you can bet that as soon as DSL gets out there, they'll change their mind pretty rapid.

dahamsta

Oops, didn't answer the first question. The best anyone can give you is "soon". In all honestly, I thought we'd have it by now, but obviously that's not the case. I'd say about a month or two, but I've been wrong before. If you really were talking about cable though, it'll be a bit longer.

Joe22

speaking to people in eircom, its going to split in to, one will be the line bussiness
that will be sold off and renameds(so someone else will own what is eircoms lines today)and another company like esat that simple rents the lines like esat or ntl does,
this means eircom doesnt have to invest money in llu or adsl the people who by the lines company will, so dont expect adsl anytime soon, it could take a year just to sort out this crap

Moriarty

Jo22, could you please take a little longer in putting together your posts. As mentioned before, just because this is the net, it dosent mean that people are less annoyed about bad spelling, grammar and syntax. Cheers.

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Moriarty
mrmoriarty@eircom.net

Joe22

because you said please ok
i just pretty ****ed about what eircom is trying to pull, one things for sure there wont be adsl before eircom is sold to o brien, and these things will take at least 6 months

StarScream

its funny just how full of buzzwords esats emails are

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joey joe joe junior shabadu...thats the worst name i ever heard

Joe22

i wonder what would happen if i reported esat for spam mail, thats all it is really

Moriarty

Its not spam if you have subscribed to it.

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Moriarty
mrmoriarty@eircom.net

Joe22

damn, hold on with porn Spam the girls want to screw up and with esat Spam they want to screw you, both are misleading and get you all excited only to face an anti climax

chernobyl

DSL sux compared to a service i used 2 months ago.
SkyDSL letr me connect @ 8Mbits/sec but heres a download with a very high spike.
Downloads were normally approaching 2Mbytes/sec.


[This message has been edited by chernobyl (edited 29-04-2001).]

chernobyl

Originally posted by chernobyl:
DSL sux compared to a service i used 2 months ago.
SkyDSL letr me connect @ 8Mbits/sec but heres a download with a very high spike.
Downloads were normally approaching 2Mbytes/sec.


i never included the pic...duh!!

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