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Should we have a cannabis board?

  • 27-04-2002 12:48pm
    #1
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I've been thinking about it and I wonder what the reaction would be to a Cannabis board. Specifically for people to talk/argue about:

    1. Legalisation
    2. Health Issues
    3. Policy and policing issues.
    4. Social impact and personal experience.
    5. Where to get reaaaaaally good skunk from.

    (ok, forget number 5 :) )

    I'll have to talk to the other admins about this one as it a potential powder-keg but if there were strict rules then I think it would serve a useful purpose and might even be educational.
    Whether you support decriminalisation or not, informed people make informed choices.

    I'm not sure what the legal implications are but surely talking about the subject isnt illegal so I cant see how we could get into trouble...

    The thought also crosses my mind that we might be better expanding it to cover all drugs but I'll have to think about that.

    DeV.

    Should we have a cannabis board? 98 votes

    yes a cannabis board is a good idea make it so
    0% 0 votes
    no a a cannabis board is not a good idea leave it be
    37% 37 votes
    how about a board for discussing drugs in general
    24% 24 votes
    yes but Leagle issues may need to be checked first
    20% 20 votes
    Atari jaguar (i dont care)
    17% 17 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    That might just get you 12 clicked from the internet! :D
    Great idea, but some people think that mass murder is a great idea too! Better check the aul law books there methinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭Bosco


    I think it's a good idea. though you might as well make it a board for discussing all drugs. As long as the 'Drugs are great, everyone should take drugs' type posts are tightly controlled then I can't see too many problems arising.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭lordsippa


    Well... there are two sides to this...

    This forum could be used to discuss the health issues, legislation, etc. but ALSO the best and safest methods of ingestion (therefore being a GOOD thing)... knowledge isn't illegal.

    On the other hand, it also has the potential for people to start doing deals and being general muppets. So I dunno...

    I'd go with it, but not for other drugs. There's no way there'd be a nice conversation about heroin which wouldn't end with someone making an outburst about someone they know whose life was ruined cause of it... too many bad vibes. Cannibas ain't that bad in that regard tho... So it has my vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    Originally posted by DeVore
    I've been thinking about it and I wonder what the reaction would be to a Cannabis board. Specifically for people to talk/argue about:

    1. Legalisation
    2. Health Issues
    3. Policy and policing issues.
    4. Social impact and personal experience.
    5. Where to get reaaaaaally good skunk from.

    (ok, forget number 5 :) )

    DeV.

    Could do no harm. There's nothing illegal about it (apart from number 5 possibly- knowing assitance of an illegal act). As you said information gives indivduals the facts and not the myth/propaganda.

    As for a drugs board, it may be very helpful for people trying to deal with addiction in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Humm. There might be a load of legal stuff stopping you but i cant think what :confused::confused: . It would be funny though. See what people have to say...... youll have my vote on that one :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭Bosco


    Originally posted by lordsippa

    I'd go with it, but not for other drugs. There's no way there'd be a nice conversation about heroin which wouldn't end with someone making an outburst about someone they know whose life was ruined cause of it... too many bad vibes. Cannibas ain't that bad in that regard tho... So it has my vote.

    I think these 'bad vibes' are exactly what a drugs discussion board needs. I for one would like to hear the views of those who's lives have been directly affected by illegal drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    I think it's a good idea. These discussions don't fit terribly well into Humanities or Politics, and I do think that the idea of a board where people can discuss safety issues etc (say, the various testing kits for MDMA or whatever) is sound.

    Moderation would really just be a case of keeping it inside the law. Discussion as to where to acquire drugs (beyond the safety issues) or dealing on the board is obviously the biggest worry. I'm sure some of the existing moderators would be happy to help out however - I know I would be, if required. I suggest that it be strongly moderated, though, because the potential for REALLY illegal stuff there is huge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭phreak


    its a good idea as long as its kept as an informative board and not "for sale" or "wanted" drugs board. you'll need a good few admins to make sure its kept legal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 517 ✭✭✭hacktavist


    I think this is a good idea and I cant see any major muppetry.
    As long its moderated well and I dont think anyones stupid
    enought to try to deal drugs on the internet, are they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    yea might aswell
    should be about all drugs though
    what would it be called?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    you could have it locked like the CS boards, to keep the muppets out :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 freemasons


    i think it would be a bad idea.

    drugs are bad, they destroie peoples lives. if you are telling people how to make drugs you are only making the problem worser.

    everyone is affected by drugs. corey from slipknot smkoed a hash joint in his mouth for half an hour and then went into a coma for a week.

    do you really want this to happen to everyone on this bored?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    How does discussing...

    1. Legalisation
    2. Health Issues
    3. Policy and policing issues.
    4. Social impact and personal experience.


    imply the board will be anything such as a Homemade guide to your own Doobie!?

    I accept your concern and thats why if it is introduced it would need to have a clear charter and enforcement of the rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    1. Legalisation
    2. Health Issues
    3. Policy and policing issues.
    4. Social impact and personal experience.


    freemasons, i see nothing in the proposed charter about MAKING the stuff ?

    we all know drugs are bad mkay ? bud so is booze, and fags, yet ppl still partake as of their own choice....



    .........money making idea

    i say lets have the board, boards can become a the VENUS FLY TRAP for ppl that want to score, then boards pass on the info to COPS.

    a sting baby ya !


    append :

    dammit 80P, you got in seconds b4 me !


  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭noog


    I'm all for a cannabis board... I think there are a lot of misconceptions about the drug that maybe could be discussed on the boards in a moderated fasion...

    Have you had any thoughts about who's going to be moderator?

    I'd be happy to help, if you'd like


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 freemasons


    Originally posted by Super Noodle
    I'm all for a cannabis board... I think there are a lot of misconceptions about the drug that maybe could be discussed on the boards in a moderated fasion...

    Have you had any thoughts about who's going to be moderator?

    I'd be happy to help, if you'd like

    i think is their is a druggie board, then anyone who is going to post to it shoudl have to take a drugs test.

    that way no junkies will ruin it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    \begin pulling of leg

    ooo a drugs test !!

    question 1 ) a drug close to MING THE MERCILESS's heart

    question 2 ) this drug is popular in asia, begins with an O

    questoin 3 ) and so on....

    \end pulling of leg


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    YES! YES!

    Vote Ming and smoke da dope!


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    I have a question... If this board does go ahead, will there be a green background with the leaf at the top of the page or what will be the story? I think that would be a good idea.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    Tips on making a T-joint!

    :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,265 ✭✭✭MiCr0


    i can see only bad things coming from this

    sooner or later some parents is going to see their little kiddie reading the cannabis board and freak out.

    then comes the call to the internet hotline and the lawyers roll in (no pun intended)

    just my 2c

    MiCr0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    I believe I'm right in thinking that p45.net* have a "Sex, Drugs & Rock n' Roll " board...


    And if its good enough for that shower then its good enough for us :D









    *I was told by a friend honestly- never visit there meself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    OMG,

    Looky here, believe it or not they ahve a thread running at the moment about cannabis...
    http://www.p45rant.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17579

    Just for spite, lets do it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭phreak


    i used to smoke da weed, but unfortunately i can't anymore :(

    i'd love to moderate this board, and will take a drug test to prove im not a junkie ;) and i know i'll pass since i did one a few weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Puck


    I see nothing wrong with talking openly and educating people about it. I support that. But you would seriously be putting Boards.ie in the firing line of some narrow minded people.

    Of course I'll support Boards all the way on this one if ye want to go through with it.

    I can just hear the eejits screaming "The children, the children! Won't someone please think of the children!"

    There are a lot of young Boards members and afaik P45 attracts a more adult crowd so it would be perhaps less controversial on there.

    But sher if they don't like it they don't have to read it. Maybe a private board to keep the kids (and in that way Mammy and Daddy's solicitors) out would be worth a thought.

    I'm up for it anyway and I would take part in it for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭phreak


    But sher if they don't like it they don't have to read it. Maybe a private board to keep the kids (and in that way Mammy and Daddy's solicitors) out would be worth a thought.

    how do you know if someone is a kid or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Puck


    Good point.

    Well you could ask them to state that they are an adult and then if the parents complain blame it on the kid for lying about their age.

    There's the standard pub test, i.e. "What year were you born in?".
    Believe it or not this "test" used to be used on Bulmers.ie before.

    Then there's the "Leisure Suit Larry" method. A quiz that only an adult could ever pass! teehee:D That would be good for a laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    well seem as Dev asked:

    IMHO your just looking for trouble with a board like that - with all the good intentions in the world, it's going to attract muppets like flies around s**te :(

    It's a shame, as the idea is good, but its going to attract that element.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭phreak


    Originally posted by BuffyBoy
    well seem as Dev asked:

    IMHO your just looking for trouble with a board like that - with all the good intentions in the world, it's going to attract muppets like flies around s**te :(

    It's a shame, as the idea is good, but its going to attract that element.

    if its moderated right, then there shouldn't be a problem


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  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭noog


    In my opinion, if it's monitored carefully, then i dont see why not a cannabis board cant exist... I'll also take a drug test. :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭phreak


    Originally posted by Mercury_Tilt

    I still dont think its right though. it is illegal.

    its illegal at the moment!
    There are campaigns going on at the moment to have it legalised.
    its legal in the netherlands(why should they have all the fun) and its been decriminalised in the UK so given time it will (hopefully) be legalised.

    Alot of people want it legalised and alot of others don't so this forum will be a place to discuss your views which ever side your on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭lordsippa


    Way I see it...

    If the board is disguised under a suitable title, and if there are enough moderaters the board should be ok. The reason I wouldn't want people with their drug horror stories posting would be simply because some muppet would just have to argue against them and piss them off and, hence everybody off. Like how I personally could relate horror stories of alcoholicism, but would rather not cause someone would probably pop in to state "alcohol is fantastic you idiot" halfway through (don't have any problem with booze though, in case you're wondering)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    might serve some useful informative purpose but would probally degenerate into mindless flame fest.
    Given the ammount of acknowledged drug users on the board a specific cannabis board would not be detrimental to the general standing of boards.ie

    maybe the board should be in the community section and thus not *officially* endorsed be the boards management.With a sticky disclaimer about the veiws expressed within not representing the veiws of the management.

    I am in general favour of such a board if handled responsibly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Originally posted by Clintons Cat
    might serve some useful informative purpose but would probally degenerate into mindless flame fest.

    Well thats my worry also - but sure, such is life. I *don't* smoke the stuff (before anyone says anything - I have done previously, just don't now), but I don't care who does and fully support the right of those who smoke it to do so - but gut feeling says this board might become a "muppet magnet" ;)


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  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    To avoid potential powder keg exploding, you could;
    1. Set up a forum where the posts have to be pre-approved by the moderators..
    2. Choose moderators, including your self, that you really trust...

    At least do it this way in the begining to see how it goes... you can always tweak it later...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭Keeks


    I think this contains most of what will be discused on the proposed board, as well as a lot of other drugs. It remind you of what kind of a headache this topic can be.

    On a personal note, having a board specificaly to dicuss cannabis will bring unwanted legal attention. Its better to leave it to the humanitites board. I really doubt there is enough sensible topics to warrant a board of it own.

    And setting it up to discuss health issues is dodgy. There are reports out that say it goo and others that say it bad for you. Which do you believe? It will all end in tears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭phreak


    so has a decision been made yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Kix


    What would a dedicated board add to the discussion of the issue of cannabis that a couple of decent threads in Humanities wouldn't completely resolve?

    With the unwanted attention it could bring to boards.ie and the high (no pun intended) potential for muppettry of the highest order, it's something I'd prefer not to see.

    K


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Originally posted by freemasons
    corey from slipknot smkoed a hash joint in his mouth for half an hour and then went into a coma for a week.

    do you really want this to happen to everyone on this bored?

    That's gotta be a load of bullshít!! Went into a coma!?!? My arsé.
    Someone tell me that this guy's here purely to take the píss! Everyone on boards.ie is suddenly gonna start smoking hash because a new board pops up!!! Haha :D

    I don't think the proposal is to make a purely pro cannabis board, and try to convince people to start smoking. It's for a discussion board. I'd say it would be a good board, but I agree with most others here, in that there would probably be a lot of crap on it, so a good few mods and a close eye on it at all times. If that's too much hassle then there's no point in doing it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    How much can you post about Canabis?? with the exception of .. smoked some pot, had a good time.. dont remember a thing.. and move those words around a bit and you have every possible post.. only thing worth posting would be the other applications of canabis.. like paper, fuel, clothing, rope, foodstuffs, oils etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Originally posted by Saruman
    How much can you post about Canabis?? with the exception of .. smoked some pot, had a good time.. dont remember a thing.. and move those words around a bit and you have every possible post.. only thing worth posting would be the other applications of canabis.. like paper, fuel, clothing, rope, foodstuffs, oils etc...

    Actually, thats quite a good point Saruman.

    After all the main discussion is worn out, you'll prolly get nothin but muppets going "hash is cool" or on the other hand "drugs suck" etc...

    There really isn't enough to discuss about cannabis to merit a whole board, is there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 stackboundary


    Perhaps better to have a Linux forum, so that us techies can escape logic1's tyrrany.

    slackies.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Originally posted by BuffyBoy
    There really isn't enough to discuss about cannabis to merit a whole board, is there?

    I dunno. I wouldnt have thought there was enough to discuss about the lack of connectivity in Ireland to merit an IrelandOffline board, but it gets good traffic.

    Sure, if it boils down to a periodic "whats your opinion" post, starting the same old tired routine again and again, then fair enough - kill it. However, there is quite a lot happening in this area, both from a legislative and research angles, and discussion of this can only be a good thing.

    I think a general "drugs" forum might be better than just one for cannabis. As someone (several someones?) suggested, it should be an "approved poster" board, like CS was made. Make sure you have plenty of moderators (3?), and work out a strict set of rules and guidelines in advance. You need "bastid" mods - people who will run the thing ruthlessly if needed. Names like Gandalf, Shinji, and Castor Troy spring to mind, but I'm sure there's others too.

    One last thing - in any argument/discussion about drugs, there will always be the uninformed. THis is no reason to be banned from the board. If this is a "restricted area", we should still be willing to put up with the "Jesus cries when you take drugs" level of intelligence - its only the illegal (or borderline illegal) areas (where to buy, who to buy from, deal-arranging etc.) which should be toughly enforced.

    jc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Thats probably true Bonkey.. still a grey area though.. is there any way boards could be held accountable if someone DID post a brochure and where to buy drugs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭Kraken


    poll the idea. only way to see how it goes!
    i suggest options like

    yes get the board
    no dont
    yes get the board but have it for all types of drugs (for discussion purposes)
    check the legeal issues behind it first
    atari jaguar (well why not)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    Here is an example of the various topics that could be covered by a cannabis board,
    Spam Warning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Tue there is a LOT about Cannabis that is good that is nothing to do with the narcotic side.. in fact Undustial Hemp has no narcotic side and all the benefits of the cannabis plant in terms of uses.

    However how much of this will be discussed? the rest will be all about the narcotic side i imagine!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 875 ✭✭✭EvilGeorge


    Where do I vote ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭Kraken


    poll added


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