ireland.com taking the p!ss

Samson

It looks to me that they are going a bit too far with this "pay per view" sh!t.
Who would bother paying them for breaking news when one can get it at rte.ie for free ?

JustHalf

Yes, because the entire internet must be FREE!

Seriously, it's not that bad.

cerebus

Originally posted by JustHalf
Seriously, it's not that bad.

I'm with Justhalf on this.

I don't think it is too bad - certainly cheaper than buying the previous Saturday's edition (which is all I can find locally) every week for ~$5 Canadian.

starman100

Pity, i used to browse thru The Irish Times at lunchtime......
I wonder will it ever be possible to charge a few cent
when you just wanted to browse thru the headlines
quickly now and again?

What do you reckon is the best Irish news source daily?

Ireland.com?

RTE?

Irish Independent / Unison??

:rolleyes:

Johnny_the_fox

Pure Mental.....

is that an end to the fantasy football?

Dustaz

Yahoos fantasy football is a million times better than the irish times crap.


TBH, i think its a mess that they have to charge. They have an ENOURMOUS readership and theyre trying to say they cant make enough from advertising? thats atrocious.

JustHalf

Try Salon.com

Batfink

I'm sure some nice person out there will post a password to access it , I have to say I like browsing through it but for 79 euro I can live without it !

tHE vAGGABOND

its a very good price, look at what all the other big papers such as wsj.com etc etc - its all the same. I will be paying for it, as its my only real gateway to the news at home. There is feck all else really, in terms of critical journalism, independent.ie seems to have been designed in a competition to design the least accessable wesite - Im not mister O'Reilly's biggest fan anyway.

cant make enough from advertising

Nope! Its not porn add banners they run, I would say they get pretty much feck all from them to be honest, a single figure percentage of their costs maybe. If you have been following the news, Irish Times as a company has big problems, and ireland.com is costing them a fortune. Its either charge for it or turn it off.

DeVore

The fastest way to get yourself banned will be to post a username and password to Ireland.com.

I think their choice is poor and they have options they havent considered but I'm not going to help people rip them off.

I wont be paying for it.

DeV.

Meh

Originally posted by Dustaz
They have an ENOURMOUS readership and theyre trying to say they cant make enough from advertising? thats atrocious.

Internet advertising is in a pretty bad state at the moment. Even if you don't get ripped off, you'll get paid half nothing for your ad impressions. It's pretty much impossible to make money out of non-porn internet ads at the moment...

The Cigarette Smoking Man

Originally posted by DeVore
The fastest way to get yourself banned will be to post a username and password to Ireland.com.

What stance are you going to take on people pasting in articles into their posts? You see a lot of it on the Ireland Offline board, people quoting the Times and the Indo. While this is clearly breaching their copyright at the moment, I'm sure they'd be even less impressed to see content that they charge for on another site...

jmcc

Originally posted by The Cigarette Smoking Man

What stance are you going to take on people pasting in articles into their posts? You see a lot of it on the Ireland Offline board, people quoting the Times and the Indo. While this is clearly breaching their copyright at the moment, I'm sure they'd be even less impressed to see content that they charge for on another site...

It depends on how much of the article is quoted. (Fair Use). It would be ok under this to post, say a paragraph and a link to the article.

Having articles quoted can often be like free publicity for the site. Sites like ENN.ie would probably depend largely on advertising revenue so they would not worry about it as it would be advertising. (You could always use the press release defence if challenged - ask they how much is original and then claim to be quoting the press release. )

My theory is that Ireland.com is run by people who don't understand publishing. Hell it is debatable if they even understand the ethos of the net.

What's to stop someone signing up and then making the username/password free? (I can think of oa few ways.) I reckon that these characters have just managed to completely bo11ix Ireland.com by the botched imposition of charging for e-mail and now this cargo-cult charge into PPV. The scene from the movie 'Wall Street' where Gordon Gecko talks about some CEO giving lectures while his company nosedived sprung to mind when I heard about Mary Mangan speaking at the Digital Media conference.

However posting a username/password on an open site or mailing list would be a dangerous thing, especially if Ireland.com have it in the terms and conditions that the subscription is a single user or corporate sub. I think, particularly because I have a very low opinion of the publishing instincts of Ireland.com's management, that Ireland.com will aggressively pursue people who abuse their services. The reason for this would be that they will not get the number of subs required for viability and any other method of getting revenue would be followed. It would be best not to put Boards.ie or any mailing list in jeopardy.

Regards...jmcc

Supercell

Well..there goes my homepage.

Disgusted :mad: