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Ntl and flat-rate

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  • 07-05-2002 5:35pm
    #1
    ganam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭


    Howard reports on ie.comp (6 May 2002) that Ntl have applied for a flat rate service. ODTR said (9 April 2002) no applications have been received. What's the story?


    > I met with NTL management on 2nd May.

    [snip]

    > Also, NTL have applied for a Flat rate service from Eircom
    > but have not succeeded in obtaining it.
    >
    > Howard Brittain
    > Ireland OFFline lobbying spokesman


    REPORT ON IOFFL MEETING WITH ODTR - 9 April 2002
    [snip]
    The ODTR, while fully aware of the advantages of a flat-rate Internet product, pointed out that very little demand-profiling exists to support the case, and that they believe that eircom have still to date received no requests from any of the 28 licensed telecommunications operators with regard to providing such a service.

    [snip]

    The ODTR said that even under such legislation, they still required an operator to request the service before they could act. The interconnect legislation is generally based on the assumption that the regulator acts in response to demands from telecoms operators, and does not empower them to mandate services preemptively in the absence of this.

    http://www.irelandoffline.org/article.php?story=20020417082349847


    ganam


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    Mountjoy Mugger
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    When did NTL apply for flat rate, do we know?

    I'm amazed that they haven't made a bigger deal of it, if this is the case.


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    dahamsta
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    Esat also maintain that they have been negotiating for flat-rate for some time. See Dave Long's report on his meeting with Esat for more information.

    adam /with a big wooden spoon


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    Tellox
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    So that gives us a grand total of 2/28 ISP's requesting flat-rate..
    I bet it'd do the world of good if more then 10 requested it


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    ando
    Registered Users Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭ando


    is irelandoffline going to get into contact with the odtr about this? Would'nt the new comms bill be effective if ntl were looking for flat rate? btw, is the comms bill now active?


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    Dr.Seagull
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    Originally posted by Tizlox
    So that gives us a grand total of 2/28 ISP's requesting flat-rate..
    I bet it'd do the world of good if more then 10 requested it
    i didnt realise there was that many alot of them are a part of eircom or esat arnt they?


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    Tellox
    Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Tellox


    yeah I know,there are a load, offers dont vary much though, due to ShinRa. I mean Eircom.


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    Balfa
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    the rest of the OLOs are generally business-only, and only have a tiny foothold in ireland. if esat alone wanted LLU, that should be more than enough for the ODTR. Add NTL in and there's no excuse. They're two very big and important companies in Ireland.


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    Jorinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Jorinn


    Originally posted by Tizlox
    So that gives us a grand total of 2/28 ISP's requesting flat-rate..
    I bet it'd do the world of good if more then 10 requested it
    No, 28 telecommunications operators, not 28 ISP's, entirely different.


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    SkepticOne
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    Originally posted by Balfa
    the rest of the OLOs are generally business-only, and only have a tiny foothold in ireland. if esat alone wanted LLU, that should be more than enough for the ODTR. Add NTL in and there's no excuse. They're two very big and important companies in Ireland.
    I take it you mean a wholesale flat-rate deal not LLU. The ODTR will be very quick to tell you that LLU is working in Ireland with ESAT's ADSL offering in Limerick and plans for around 40 exchanges in Ireland. Point is valid, though.


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    Balfa
    Registered Users Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Balfa


    Originally posted by SkepticOne
    I take it you mean a wholesale flat-rate deal not LLU. The ODTR will be very quick to tell you that LLU is working in Ireland with ESAT's ADSL offering in Limerick and plans for around 40 exchanges in Ireland. Point is valid, though.

    duhh. yeah, of couse i do :)
    silly me :)


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