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2 way Sat Internet Access for UK and Eire?

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  • #32
    Balfa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Balfa


    well done flame. you proved what i suspected but couldn't be arrsed proving biggrin.gif


    uh, that sounds sarcastic, but it's not smile.gif


  • #33
    Balfa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Balfa


    Hmmm... y'know, i doubt it costs them anything near that to provide is with what they're offering, even though this IS ireland wink.gif

    Looks to me more like a "yaboo we've got what you want and no one else does, so you're gonna pay through the nose for it".

    There's no way they can keep that price when (if?) ADSL finally does become available. I wonder by how much they'll drop it when some competition enters the arena.


  • #34
    elexes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭elexes


    hmmm right ... i like to have my cs ping below 100 so i dont know if ill be getting that . dang but might be good if a cople of lads in my area want a wan to split the cost .
    what type of world will we live in when there is no world ?


  • #35
    yellum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slimjimbo:
    Who'd want to have the brits monitoring everything they do online. echelon echelon carnivore! </font>


    So you don't use Oceanfree, Esat or IOL then ? Anyways its GCHQ who monitor for the Brits. Echelon is the Yankee station in Menwith Hill in England.


  • #36
    Fand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Fand


    Nah, Echelon is run by the US, Britain, New Zealand (!) France and, ummm, somewhere else. They pool all their info about you radicals.


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  • #37
    Fand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Fand


    In fact, that reminds me, October 21 is Echelon Day, when everyone's supposed to send emails laden with the keywords that Echelon searches for:

    >>Press Release:
    >>
    >>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
    >>
    >>CONTACT:
    >>Scully: Scully@cipherwar.com or
    >>Michael Teetering: Teetering@cipherwar.com
    >>
    >>
    >>Global Monitoring System, ECHELON, has its day. Jam Echelon Day October 21st

    >>
    >>THE INTERNET - July 25, 2001 - A large group of individuals in the
    >>Global Internet Community have set out to bring attention to the
    >>communications monitoring system known as ECHELON.
    >>
    >>Two years ago, when this idea was launched, the existence of ECHELON
    >>was denied by all of the participating agencies. Now with the recent
    >>issuing of the report by the "Temporary Committee on the ECHELON
    >>Interception System" its existence and invasive practices are no
    >>longer in doubt.
    >>
    >>We are urging all persons who utilize any form of global
    >>communication to inform their circle of friends regarding ECHELON
    >>and its monitoring of all email, telephone and fax communications in
    >>Europe. Along with this we are urging the inclusion of as many
    >>'trigger words' within those communications as possible.
    >>
    >>To this end, we have established a primary web site at:
    >>http://cipherwar.com/echelon and numerous mirror sites around the
    >>world to help educate people about ECHELON and what it really means
    >>to the Global community at large.
    >>
    >>October 21st has been designated "JAM ECHELON DAY" and on that day
    >>we are encouraging email messages to be sent out in great numbers,
    >>containing as many 'trigger words' as possible. (There is a list of
    >>1700 on the web site.) While the goal of "jamming up" ECHELON is a
    >>lofty and likely unattainable one, is it not better to signal
    >>displeasure at being monitored than passively allow it to happen? We
    >>think so.
    >>
    >>Now is a chance for anyone, regardless of computer expertise, to
    >>become an instant hacktivist - and all you need is your regular
    >>email program.
    >>
    >>After October 21st, we ask global netizens to merely stop censoring
    >>themselves for fear of scrutiny. If the bulk of monitored hits
    >>becomes too great, the effective-ness will drop to the
    >>insignificant. A proverb from Madagascar states; "Cross the river in
    >>a crowd and the crocodile won't eat you." Although that may not be
    >>completely true, we invite you to join us.
    >>
    >># # #
    >>
    >>--
    >>| Cipherwar: Information Warfare
    >>| http://www.Cipherwar.com
    >>--
    >>
    >>==========MIRRORS AS OF 7/25==================
    >>
    >>http://cipherwar.com/echelon
    >>http://echelon.oregonwebdesign.com/
    >>http://www.cotse.com/JamEchelon/
    >>http://logos4u.box.sk/JED2K/
    >>http://www.net-security.org/mirror/jam-echelon/
    >>http://www.world-of-hell.com/JED2K/
    >>http://www.net-security.org/text/press/995403788,97012,.shtml (Press Release)

    >>http://www.ellicit.org/JAME/
    >>http://www.safemode.org/echelon
    >>http://www.sentry-labs.com/echelon/
    >>http://thehacktivist.com/jed/
    >>http://www.chrisrhodes.net/jam/index.htm
    >>http://echelon.partisan.de/
    >>The German Translation:
    >>http://echelon.partisan.de/index_de.html
    >>http://echelon.linuxsecurity.com
    >>http://echelon.kayuza.com
    >>


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