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Originally posted by Shinji
Ever wonder why the highest concentration of armchair nationalists who bleat about 32 county republics is in Cork and Kerry?
Ill give you kerry but comon now, Cork didnt return any SF TDs whereas dublin did
Anyway Ill put money down that the highest concentration of armchair/ active nationalists can be found our side of the border (louth par example). You know, the ones who dont have to suffer any oppression yet enjoy the shopping trips to the north where its cheaper. Bit Irish that one.
Also when people refer to the northern protestants please stop refering to them as english, it implies they were born/bred there and only moved to the north to piss the paddies off.
A. Self Obsessed
I strive to better myself, though not at the expense of others. Is that self obsessed?
B. Economically Swayed
My future career will be economically rewarding, but it isnt why I am spending 6+years to obtain it
C. Greedy
Dont think so
D. VERY Unpatriotic
Id die for this country. However there is nothing endearing about the irish love for the tipple, especially abroad where theyre supposed to be representing us as a nation. Hence I dont wear my Irishness on my sleeve when Im abroad
E. Pro-British
Why not, they speak the same language, same culture & they drive on the same side of the road.
F. Ungrateful
Should we tell the brits to come back and tear down all the universities?0 -
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Agree with most of what ye say Johhny5
Something Iv been wondering about for a while is..............
Say for example in the next 20 years Sinn Fein continue to grow down here
Up north the majority of catholics/nationalists/republicans vote for sinn fein.
A situation that may well happen!
Say the catholic/nationalist/republican poulation become the majority
A situation that may well happen!
A vote is taken and a majority in the six counties favour a united Ireland.
Another vote is taken in the south to see if a majority favour a united ireland but is defeated by a small margin
A situation that may well happen!
What then?
The majority of who we would consider "irish people" (I only say Irish in this context for the sake of this argument) have voted for a united ireland if you include both states (north and south) BUT the majority down here is blocking the overall majority of "irish" people who voted for a united Ireland from realizing that dream.
One of the big arguments put foward by the "Celtic tiger" generation so active on this board against a united Ireland is that the loyalist/unionist community would turn to violence against the south but I think this situation (if indeed it were to happen at all, but you never know) would see a far bigger threat comming from the Sinn Fein/united ireland element both north and south.
Would they eccept this situation?
Doubt it.
Would they pick up arms against those who have apposed them..........they have in the past.
Will those within the "celtic tiger generation" who value matterial things and care only for their own welfar and so voted against a United Ireland be willing to fight the pro united Ireland'ers?
Would love to find out.........
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Originally posted by dathi1
George Orwell ring a bell?
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A totalitarian superstate called Oceania ruled by a big brother political system with electronis eyes and ears. 1984 by GW in 1949.
I think people know what the book is about - its the accuracy which is being questioned.
I'm looking around the world, and I cant see any totalitarian state which was run in this manner in 1984, nor can I see one which is likely to emerge in the near future.
Orwell predicted the predictable - that technology of the day would advance, and that ultimately this would be used as a means of infringing on our personal privacy. All he did was take this to a bleak conclusion which has proven to be remarkably inaccurate in most ways. Note that Orwell wrote his works after one of the first wars in which electronic spying, cryptography, and all those associated techniques were widely employed for the first time. Never before was encryption (and crypto breaking) so widely spread or used. Never before was traffic interecepting carried on such a huge scale with such significant impacts.
Orwell simply reasoned that these technologies would become more prevalent in the public sector, and that this would ultimately lead to a loss of privacy. So far, he's been partially right, and his view of the world as it should have been 18 years ago is constantly being held up as a vision of what it will be in another 18 years if we dont put a stop to it.
Isnt it great that 1984 didnt make the mistake of trying to limit itself to a timeframe so that people could say "what a load of crap" once it became obvious that society was not progressing at the pace that Orwell imagined.
Oh - hang on. The title has a date in it. How did I ever miss that
Tell you what, though. I'll concede the point. George Orwell was remarkably prescient, and frighteningly accurate in a number of ways. Remarkably. In fact, of the thousands and thousands of visions of the future, his is about the only one which has managed to keep and hold attention for its merit.
Which would mean that the vast, vast majority of "visions of the future" are incorrect. In fact, it is such a rarity to be able to look back at one and say "this was really good" that we all seem to harp on a single case - Orwell's Big Brother vision.
Which would mean to me that your argument is saying that your vision of the future is far, far more likely to be wrong than right, because in the past 50 years, we can come up with one memorable, noteble example.
The mathematician in me, in fact, would hazard that there have been sufficient views of the future written in the past 50 years that at least one of them was statistically likely to hit close to the mark, which means that Orwell's writing may be nothing more than lucky co-incidence, further weakening your position.
As for being in favour of the EU, but not a federal super-state.....could you explain what EU you would be in favour of, and how it differs from the EU-precursors (EEC and EC) which we democratically decided to move on from?
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I'm certainly not begrudging success. But there have been more than a few questionable shenanigans, share price movements and decisions between closed doors. I’ve even witnessed the odd one from the sidelines.Originally posted by Turnip
Don't tell me you fall for the same old paranoid conspiracy theories that lefties continually drone on about? There are no 'golden circles' in Ireland controlling everything. There's only successful people who sometimes have mutual interests. It's just classic begrudgery and jealousy in action to suggest that people are wealthy because of some old boys network or something.
In a country as small, population-wise, as Ireland, old boys networks are bound to appear.
I've benefited from my old boys network, haven't you?
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Originally posted by Shazbat
On a similar note, the amount of people who buy the Sun in this country amazes me too, it is such an anti irish rag. Pure racism about the irish is often to be found within its twisted pages yet it is still very popular. It just goes to show the kind of gob****es that live in this country.
It's popular because of the breasts ye know, and the scandal. It's not the type of paper anyone would buy if they wanted to keep abreast of current affairs! 0
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