amd xp or p4 ?

Chaos · 05-10-2002 6:31pm #1

Gonna get one of the above a 2gig lets say and its gonna be on a ddr setup,geforce 3...wont wanna be overclocking either so has anyone ideas on which would be the best? so far ive seen the amd coming out with the thumbs up!
thanks!

BabyEater · 05-10-2002 7:35pm

You can only get an AMD to 2200 so if you want to go higher you will have to get a P4. Altho the AMD tends to be a good bit cheaper, also the performance of both are very similar.

marauder · 06-10-2002 7:06am

Buy or Build?

CombatCow · 06-10-2002 12:29pm

I bought a amd xp 2000+ from komplett when they were on special for 115 yoyo's.it actually runs @ 1.66 ghz but i managed to overcolck it to 1.807 ghz whitck iz ok i suppose ( without connecting L1 bridges )thats @ 145/34.With the voltage @ 1.80 it runs @ 34-35C when idle and bout 39-40 when under a load ( with a coolermaster HHC-001 v.loud ) And on an abit kt7a ver 1.3 mobo.

COMBATCOW >:^)

Chaos · 06-10-2002 1:38pm

gonna build it....so xp2000 or p4 2gig?:] think ill go with the xp chip from what ive seen so far!

BKtje · 06-10-2002 2:20pm

The XP setup is cheaper than a p4 .
Personally i find that Intel are slightly more stable but not worth it for the extra dosh.

Mutz · 06-10-2002 3:26pm

Originally posted by BabyEater
You can only get an AMD to 2200 so if you want to go higher you will have to get a P4. Altho the AMD tends to be a good bit cheaper, also the performance of both are very similar.

Actually, I'm Buying the AMD Athlon XP2400+ at the End of this Month and its Running at 2GHZ. Its Pricey at €260, but sure Feck it. Also the XP2600+ is out too

BabyEater · 06-10-2002 7:03pm

There is very few of those 2400's about and even fewer 2600's thats why i said 2200 was the highest AMD chip . Where are you going to buy your chip as i don't know anywhere selling them ,except in America

Kensai · 06-10-2002 7:33pm

Originally posted by BabyEater
There is very few of those 2400's about and even fewer 2600's thats why i said 2200 was the highest AMD chip .

That's also why you're wrong.

The_Bullman · 06-10-2002 8:17pm

Originally posted by Kensai
That's also why you're wrong.

what are you talking about?

you got my hopes up so off i went to komplett to see how much they where. to my surprise there where none there until

Maybe
2002-10-31

so it seems that babyeater was right and perhaps that you are wrong

Gerry · 07-10-2002 1:10am

By the end of this month, I'd say the p4 2.4 will cost the same or less than that chip. Where are you buying from mutz?

Kensai, how about backing up your points. From what I've seen, babyeater is 100% right, but of course theres always the blind zealotry of those getting caught up in "STICKING IT TO THE MAN" and generally rooting for the underdog, though the "underdog" happens to be a massive corporation!!!!

Kensai · 07-10-2002 5:49pm

Originally posted by Gerry
Kensai, how about backing up your points. From what I've seen, babyeater is 100% right, but of course theres always the blind zealotry of those getting caught up in "STICKING IT TO THE MAN" and generally rooting for the underdog, though the "underdog" happens to be a massive corporation!!!!

What are you ****ting about?

why i said 2200 was the highest AMD chip .

BabyEater · 07-10-2002 6:04pm

Kensai , what is wrong with

why i said 2200 was the highest AMD chip

as it is the highest AMD chip available here. I cant walk down to me local computer store and get one , i don't think anywhere in Ireland has them.

Chaos · 07-10-2002 6:47pm

less of the handbags there guys...thanks for all your info folks! think ill risk it n see what happens :]

Stephen · 07-10-2002 8:23pm

fúck the local computer store, in my experience most of them are insanely overpriced and have shít-all products available.

It is generally far cheaper to order computer components online than to buy them locally in Ireland.

Gerry · 07-10-2002 8:36pm

Originally posted by Kensai
What are you ****ting about?

How about you try and back up your points?

The_Bullman · 07-10-2002 8:40pm

the point is stephen, that they don't appear to be for sale even online.

if the mighty komplett doesn't have them then in my opinion they are not readily available.

i want proof that they are available. just post the url and i will be happy

spongebob · 07-10-2002 10:27pm

Athlon XP 2200+ 1.8Ghz SoA
Mfr code: AXDA2200KV3C
Quicklinx: 21X3WS
35 now
146 1-3 days £116.00
£136.29
Athlon XP 1700+ 1.47Ghz SoA Boxed inc Heatsink/Fan
Mfr code: ADUAX1700BOX
Quicklinx: 15HXWS
6 now
176 1-3 days £57.00
£66.97
AthlonXP 2600+ 2.13Ghz SoA Box
Mfr code: AXDA2600BOX
Quicklinx: 2575WS
Long Lead Time Expected £230.00
£270.25
Athlon XP 2100+ 1.73GHz SoA
Mfr code: ADUAX2100DMT3C
Quicklinx: 21DBWS
25 now
100 1-3 days £91.00
£106.92
Athlon XP 2600+ 2.13Ghz SoA
Mfr code: AXDA2600KV3C
Quicklinx: 2573WS
Long Lead Time Expected £229.00
£269.07
AthlonXP 2400+ 2.06Ghz SoA Box
Mfr code: AXDA2400BOX
Quicklinx: 2574WS
Long Lead Time Expected £147.00
£172.72

sutty · 07-10-2002 10:54pm

From what I've read over at hardocp the 2400+, 2600+ and the 2800 have only been paper releases. while some are floting about, they aren't shiping them as a standerd. I have a 2200+ Tbrd A core my-self. on a KR7A 133R. 150x12.5 I crossed the L3 briges to unlock the multiplier as its 13.5 by default (to high for my motherboard) Its working nice and stable for me. temps are off as I run my server in the room as well (K7 classic 700MHz) which heats up the room. I'm using a SK-800 with a 80mm fan from maplin (not the best) they are grand as case fans, but dont push enough air for a CPU fan. I can get it running at 1.900Gz stable, but after that something in my system doesn't like the high bus speed, I think its the WinTV card or the High Point controler. All in all. its a good chip, and well worth te buy. The B cores are even better. They use less voltes 1.6 I beleave, where mine uses 1.65. The B core also runs cooler as a result of this and is more stable at higher clocks as of a new way they are made. Make sure you get one, if you get a A core now adays, I think you can get it replaced as a B core on the grounds that its not the qulity you want or that its a replaced core.

astrofool · 08-10-2002 1:46am

what method did u use for crossing the bridges, and whats the way of telling A cores from b cores (I saw a while ago, but can't remember it

)

have a 2200+ coming in the morning

sutty · 08-10-2002 1:49pm

I used a condutive pen I got from radionics.ie (micro tip) cost me €34 in all including delivery next day. I crossed bridges L3 1, 3, 5 some people say just 5 needs to be done. but it didn't work for me had to do all 3. hmmm, as for knowing which is which, you'll need to do some searching on the net. I dont remember the coding for them

koneko · 08-10-2002 1:54pm

A few (and I do mean a few) US stores have a very limited quantity of the 2400 chips available. None in Europe as far as I know at all.

The 2600 won't be out until later this month either. This is AMD and their new super paper launch idea. The 2800+ specs are here to make us drool, but we won't be able to buy it for a long long LONG time.

Mutz · 08-10-2002 6:57pm

Originally posted by Gerry
By the end of this month, I'd say the p4 2.4 will cost the same or less than that chip. Where are you buying from mutz?

Sorry bout not replying Gerry, Yeah, I was going to Order one off Komplett as i saw the "Maybe 31/10/02", but I emailed them asking could they speed up the order due to the amount od money I'm giving them, but to no joy.

Ah well, I Might Opt for the XP2200 Thoroghbred, but In reviews I've seen that the O/c'ing potential isnt the best, and I sort of wanted to have a processor that would be able to keep up with the new Pentiums.

sutty · 08-10-2002 11:25pm

Ok I took some screen shots of bench markes done on Sisoft sandra 2002 plus.

The system board is a Abit KR7A 133R (RAID)
512 megs DDR
Cas2
FSB 150MHz as showen in the last screen shot.
As you can see from the last screen shot the CPU is running close to its default speed at the time of the benchmarks.

Mutz · 09-10-2002 2:20am

Can You Do a comparison between the:

- p4 2ghz v. the XP2000
- p4 2,2ghz v the XP2200

etc... see how they fair out?

marauder · 09-10-2002 5:13am

P4 2.4Ghz @ Komplett.ie

and OC to 2.8

sutty · 09-10-2002 3:27pm

Sure if someone wants to post the screen shots of their P4 2200 up there would be no problem, even a P4 2400.

Thing to remember about my system is that its running at 150MHz or 300MHz DDR, that means that it will be faster than a system with the same spec and CPU running at 133.

Kensai · 10-10-2002 12:29am

Originally posted by Gerry
How about you try and back up your points?

How about you dont write reams of bull**** because I said Babyeater was wrong?

2200 chip may be the highest available right now, isn't the highest chip though and that should be made quite clear.

sutty · 10-10-2002 9:58am

Originally posted by Kensai
That's also why you're wrong.

Kensai, I think that Phil means that posting one line saying your wrong proves nothing. If you post some pages that back up this post or a quote, then it would be ok. but that above is a waste of harddrive space

Gerry · 10-10-2002 10:07am

Originally posted by Kensai
How about you dont write reams of bull**** because I said Babyeater was wrong?

2200 chip may be the highest available right now, isn't the highest chip though and that should be made quite clear.

I'm not writing realms of bull****, I've given you plenty of time to back up your points, and finally you have come out with one line, begrudgingly. Its a start though, perhaps eventually you will manage an entire paragraph. Keep up the good work.

Kensai · 11-10-2002 7:42pm

Originally posted by Gerry
I'm not writing realms of bull****

but of course theres always the blind zealotry of those getting caught up in "STICKING IT TO THE MAN" and generally rooting for the underdog, though the "underdog" happens to be a massive corporation!!!!

Good game.

amd xp or p4 ?

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