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penalty points offences

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  • 03-11-2002 11:24pm
    #1
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Any body know if there is a list of the 62 offences in regards to the penalty points system. I am looking for a simple list not like the one on the Dept of the Enviroment site. Something sort and sweet.

    Many thanks in advance.


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    #2
    sceptre
    Registered Users Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Cloud posted a list here. Should be what you're looking for


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    #3
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Thats exactly it. Thanks very much.


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    #4
    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    got this in an email today... wonder if its true ?

    > > > > I'm sure none of you wil be speeding but in case this might
    > > help.
    > > > >
    > > > > Penalty Points System
    > > > >
    > > > > How to avoid the Penalty Points System!!!
    > > > >
    > > > > How it works:
    > > > > If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red light or
    > > whatever the
    > > >case may be, and you are going to get points on your licence, then
    > > there is
    > > >a method to ensure that you DO NOT get any points. When you get
    > > your fine,
    > > >send in the cheque to pay for it and if the fine is say, 40, then
    > > make the
    > > >cheque out for 41 or some small amount over the fine. The system
    > > will then
    > > >have to send you back a cheque for the difference, but here is the
    > > trick!
    > > > >
    > > > > **DO NOT CASH THE REFUND CHEQUE!!!**
    > > > >
    > > > > Throw it away!! Points are not assessed to your licence until
    > > all
    > > >financial transactions are complete.
    > > > > If you do not cash the cheque, then the transactions are NOT
    > > complete,
    > > >however, the system has gotten its money and is happy and will not
    > > bother
    > > >you any more. This information came to our attention from a very
    > > >reliable computer company that sets up the standard database used
    > > by
    > > each
    > > >county's computing system. Good luck and share this with all your
    > > friends
    > > >and other family members as well!!!
    > > > >


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    BlueDrax
    Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭BlueDrax


    Isn't the Irish system manual?


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    #6
    Chimaera
    Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    Sounds like more chain-mail sh*te!!

    Though one thing you should do if you are stopped for speeding is ask to see a calibration certificate for whatever device was used to measure your speed. By law, a prosecution cannot be brought unless the speed measuring device is calibrated.

    Also, the reality is that you probably won't be prosecuted if your speed is within 10% of the posted limit. This is due to speedometer error - car speedometers are never calibrated on the production line, and they can under-/over-read by quite a bit in some cases, especially on older cars with magnetically driven speedometers. This could be used in a court case to let you off the hook, but be aware that your speedo could be reading higher as well as lower than your actual speed, leaving you in a very bad position.

    A handy way to calibrate your speedo is to measure out say 300 or 400m on a quiet road somewhere (or a car park) and drive through it at a constant speed, in increments of say 10mph, and time yourself through the distance each time. Your actual speed is distance divided by time, so for instance if you cover a 400m distance in 40s, then your speed will be 10m/s, which converts to 36km/h, or 22.4mph. If your speedometer had said 20mph during the test, then you can say your speedometer is under-reading by about 10%. The important thing here is to measure the distance as accurately as possible, and check the time carefully. The longer the distance, the smaller the error you're likely to encounter with timing.

    Carrying out this test at a series of speeds from 10mph up to 60 or 70mph will give you a good idea of the error associated with your speedometer.


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    sceptre
    Registered Users Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by Chief---
    got this in an email today... wonder if its true ?

    That looks like it was adapted from the "HAHA WRITE OUT A CHEQUE FOR ANY DEBT YES ANY DEBT BUT ONLY WRITE THE CHEQUE FOR A DOLLAR AND WRITE PAID IN FULL ON IT AND YOUR DEBT IS DEEMED PAID HAHAHA" mail.

    Realistically it's not like the government system is tied into their bank account - they won't be waiting to do their bank reconciliation statement to see how many cheques have been cashed before adding points.


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    #8
    Spunog UIE
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭Spunog UIE


    just about that cheque thing, that actually happened in other countries before sly people :) but its well stopped now. Think someone rang in to 2FM too earlier in the week and was wondering about it, they said that the penalty points goin on your record and if ya send in a cheque for the wrong or excess value and they'll simple send it back and ask for the correct amount...


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