[BBC] Net protests mount in Ireland

Fallschirmjager

Excellent, i detect the faint note of a minister with his panties too tight shouting at senior civil servants -- HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!!!!



we hav em by the ballls


to quote 'grab em by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow..'


anyone know dunphy's email -- anytime i mail - get feck all...he hates eircon

Fallschirmjager

apparently, Tommy Broughan is the new labour guy anyone know his email so we can get him to raise it in the Dail...

Dangger

anyone know his email

Could you not phone him?

SkepticOne

Originally posted by saik
ahahha surely the arguments cited are contradictory? zZz.

hope I haven't missed something there...

Now that you mention it...

vinnyfitz

Ireland Gets Fired Up

Paying a flat rate for Internet services is par for the course in the United States, but in Ireland consumers often pay for service by the minute. IrelandOffline, a lobbying group seeking flat-rate services, is pushing for reform, according to BBC Online. And Ireland's Minister for Communications is supportive of a flat rate for the Irish Republic. "US multinationals, which form the backbone of the Irish economy, are thinking long and hard about locating in Ireland because the infrastructure just isn't there," Una McGirr, spokeswoman for ESAT BT, one of Ireland's main telecom operators told BBC Online.

daveirl

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Ruu_Old

We really are making a heck of a progess here, well done all

pork99

This is like living in East Berlin before the wall came down

You know everything is crap - you can see foreign media which tends to confirm this - all the while the Communist Party / Eircom is telling you everything is just fine.

David C

Just found this story, published today:
Geek.com - Irish citizens demand unmetered narrowband

Irish Internet users are growing weary of metered Internet access. While U.S. citizens have enjoyed unlimited access to the Internet via dial-up connections for several years, the concept only hit the U.K. two years ago, and isn't offered by Ireland's telco. Ireland is struggling to create of itself a sort of digital hub for Europe, but infrastructure issues such as this are troubling....

..more:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Nov/gee20021105017154.htm

yellum

Message to the Government:

Okay lads, this is the story, more and more news organisations are reproducing this damning BBC Story. To quote Tim on the RTE comments page:

We really are so far behind the rest of Europe. €41 for access per DAY in Ireland, while for that price per MONTH, the rest of Europe gets ten times the speed.
Tim, Cork

Now all your marketing has made foreign companies and people coming to this country think this is some swanky digital island. Its not and the foreign media is now realising this. How soon before big business cops on to this ? You are going to lose a lot of investment over this and it is your own fault. You are going to ruin our country and we will remember this, we are already documenting everything you've done.

The dumb measures you have taken to fix this problem are not working and are just costing the taxpayer ( Your BOSS ) even more money. The time for worrying is well over, its time to panic.

Wel all know broadband connectivity is going to be universally available for the rest of the world within a year or two. Its going to be taken for granted by all the world. It will be as commonplace as running water and electricity, but not in Ireland. Ireland is in the dark ages now for cheap internet access and it won't be emerging from it anytime soon.

Welcome to Irelands Famine of the 22nd century, but instead of no spuds we'll have no cheap fast net access, and as well as people leaving to go to other countries over it you'll have companies leaving too.

Wake the Fuck Up Ireland !

yellum

Originally posted by vinnyfitz
Mmmm

Lets work it out:
Directive not issued till new Commission in place.
So lets say 10 December. ............
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What deadline will they impose on Eircom to implement the decision? Lets be optimistic once again and assume they rule that Eircom should be able to sort out all the technology. billing and marketing dilemmas within 90 days.
Lets say Flat Rate implemented Mid July 2003.

Sorry Garrett no spring offerings I'm afraid.


I'm not trying to be negative here but if the Department and RegCom are going to cover their backs they need to make sure they operate a controversial decision like this within the law.

..... rember I'm assuming Eircom won't challenge this in the courts at any stage.

Very very true Vinny. So if its July on a fastracked No Eircom objection route we can be sure its going to be another long time before we see this.

Dangger

So if its July on a fastracked No Eircom objection route we can be sure its going to be another long time before we see this.

Don't forget that FRIACO is still being negotiated in the normal run of things aside from the directive. Nevada Tele.com and EsatBT are in regular meetings with Eircom. Apparently it is progressing well. Not saying it will happen tomorrow though. But it may make the adherence to the directive not necessary, as the writing appears to be on the wall, but its the very presence of the directive that is the weight.