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Why don't girls play electric guitar?

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  • 14-12-2002 2:08am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭


    After reading the Joan Jett post I was driven to wonder if there is a reason for this? Girls and electric guitars are just not a common phenomenon whereas almost every boy you meet has owned one at one stage in his/her life.

    Our lead singer, Kathryn, plays electric guitar and not only is she normally the only female guitarist at any showcases/competitions we're at, nine times out of ten she's the only girl present out of all the bands! How come this has emerged so? Every girl I know that does play guitar can do so as well as their male contemporaries...

    Is this just random chance that things have evolved this way or is there a real cause? Are the boys mean to the girls?

    The only female electric guitarist that I can think of in Ireland (apart from Kathryn of Someday ;-) is Gemma Hayes...

    Anybody know any others?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Splinters


    well as of last week splinters have a new female bassist so does that count?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭polarbelly


    dollar short

    playground psychotic


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    The hammoc district
    Mines a large one
    Sweet Jehova


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭dera


    well, theres
    Nina Hynes
    Catherine Dowling in Babelfish
    and the woman in Ash I guess (if she doesnt have to be a lead singer too)

    that's not so many though..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭Tyrrial


    Well no matter how many you can name, the point remains that there are to few femail guitarists. some people don't like female vocals with guitars i guess that could be a reason.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Lunar Junkie


    Playground Psychotic are a great band with three female members- their site is here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭startled_frog


    are you talking about Irish girls or just girls in general?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Cizie


    female guitarists are few but female drummers are even fewer! apart from myself, i only know one female drummer. *pfft* :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 THE JESSIES


    Our drummer is female.



    Jessica insane

    Sat 21st

    Da2


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Not to be sexist, but I find most girls who try play guitar just give up, or are bad. From my experience anyway....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭polarbelly


    girl drummers = seafood

    and they are a ****IN great band as horsekick and panzer attack will verify

    www.seafood.uk.com

    again... brilliant

    turn/idlewild/wilt vibe thing goin on

    class


    oh and beretta is a lady who plays drums


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭polarbelly


    girl drummers = seafood

    and they are a ****IN great band as horsekick and panzer attack will verify

    www.seafood.uk.com

    again... brilliant

    turn/idlewild/wilt vibe thing goin on

    class


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Kopf


    Originally posted by Morn
    Girls and electric guitars are just not a common phenomenon whereas almost every boy you meet has owned one at one stage in his/her life.

    HEH.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Raggamuffin


    stevie nicks (i think)

    velvet underground had a girl drummer

    LA punk band X had a lead girl...

    The runaways

    Mybloodyvalentine (i think)

    the breeders and the amps

    Black flag had a girl bassist....

    um...... who else..... amiee mann, fiona apple.

    cat power etc. etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Muppet Monarchy


    Originally posted by Giblet
    Not to be sexist, but I find most girls who try play guitar just give up, or are bad. From my experience anyway....

    I would tentatively suggest that this kind of attitude may go a way towards explaining the dearth of female guitarists/musicians in rawk. That, and the fact that it is an overwhelmingly sexist and macho industry. It's hard enough to get up there if you not only have to contend with people's seemingly genetic aversion to supporting local bands, but also their inherent sexism. I have seen this at too many gigs to mention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭knobbles


    Ms "rodrigo y gabriella" would kick the ass out of most male guitarists.

    but most girls have small hands and
    small hands is a barrier in taking basic guitar skills up another level. In fairness artists mentioned like MBV,breeders,cat power play basic guitar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Raggamuffin


    Basic guitar?

    jesus... what do you want some guy **** the guitar ike in metallica or guns and roses.

    BASIC?

    SMells like a teen spirit is BASIC and its still great
    Where is my mind is BASIC and the song is amazing


    and the comment on small hands?

    if that is the case why do alot of girls play bass?

    knobbles i'm sure there are lots of girls out there who are better guitarists than you'll ever be. (if in fact you play guitar, and i hope you don't with attitudes like that)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Shorty


    MBV basic !?!

    Yet another reason to add to the list why I hate this board!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Shorty


    Oh wait, that was basic guitar play. But still, they're a great band and I've expressed my "reservations" about this board before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Muppet Monarchy


    I think everyone needs to take a deep breath before posting on this topic. Small hands. What were you thinking? I can only hope you were joking.

    MBV didn't play basic guitar. Well, not basic in the 3 chords sense, anyway. You were right the first time, shorty.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭Miss-Misery


    The small hands thing could be an issue to people who aren't committed enough to overcome it ( e.g. me). I've known a fair few girls who've started learning to play guitar but then dropped it, this could be taking gender differences a bit too far but most guys i know, once they start on something like a musical instrument, get a lot more hooked and obsessive about it then girls. Same reason there are more male computer geeks, more competitive male sports ( why do i get the feeling i'm gonna be slapped for that one?). The girl bass players thing could in some cases be like Hilary from jj72, who was enlisted before she could play bass and they figured it was the quickest,easiest thing to learn so they'd have a hot chick in the band. Plus guys generally start wanting to learn guitar from when they're younger and by the time girls realise they'd like to, feel intimidated by how far behind they are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    if that is the case why do alot of girls play bass?

    knobbles i'm sure there are lots of girls out there who are better guitarists than you'll ever be. (if in fact you play guitar, and i hope you don't with attitudes like that)

    Darn Tootin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭lamda


    Hmmm I have small hands and extremely bendy fingers and I manage ok....
    But girl musicians are rarer id say because of the idea that they have more to prove. Any female musician in a band is gonna be under scrutiny cos maybe if they look good its assumed they are there for eye candy... take any guy and girl musician at the same level and you can bet that people would be waiting for the girl to slip up. Just the way o the world i spose:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭the66electric


    Jessica Insane drummer Brita was doing the Meg White thing about three years before that talentless wankstain. She is an amazing drummer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭bandit


    The only time woman should be mentioned in the same sentances as guitars is when you say that you 'double bassed' a girl last night.
    APART FROM
    P.J Havrey shes a woman and she plays the guitar and she sings and she causes me to do the sex wee everytime i looks at her.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭the66electric


    Ah Bandit. You certainly mix it up. For the good people and those uneducated in the ways of your sexual metaphor, explain what it is to 'double bass' a young lady?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭knobbles


    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    Basic guitar?

    jesus... what do you want some guy **** the guitar ike in metallica or guns and roses.

    BASIC?

    SMells like a teen spirit is BASIC and its still great
    Where is my mind is BASIC and the song is amazing


    ...apologies,no insult was intended. You're right, music doesn't get more amazing than the genius production of simple guitar like MBV's loveless.
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin

    and the comment on small hands?

    if that is the case why do alot of girls play bass?

    knobbles i'm sure there are lots of girls out there who are better guitarists than you'll ever be. (if in fact you play guitar, and i hope you don't with attitudes like that)

    very true but i don't aspire to be a great guitarist.

    i obviously made a balls of my point, i was really just relating girls and lead guitar which is a rare site the last 40 years of all rock music, a possible explanation being small hands.

    Reviewing the topic, i see we're not being asked about lead guitar playing like Slash but why so few girls play electric guitar at all. I'm not sure if we can convince each other on an answer for that...i can't explain that either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭bandit


    Originally posted by the66electric
    Ah Bandit. You certainly mix it up. For the good people and those uneducated in the ways of your sexual metaphor, explain what it is to 'double bass' a young lady?

    Whilst your both standing you penitrates the woman from behind and then feel around to her bare breast with one hand and her 'front bottom' with her other and it seems like your playing a double bass:p
    Take no maral high ground with me mr pop your the one who told me what it meant and i saw your drunken actions last night


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭Pigman


    ..... well for one thing all that noise from strumming would interupt all the incessant nattering. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭the66electric


    Bandit, i take no moral high ground. How can i after a night out which included she-males, birds-eye baldness viewing, Fun snaps being pelted of a sleep hog, and an attempted 'Nudie-rape' of my sleeping self by you and yours.

    I play double bass in a jazz band who perform freeform saxophone interpretations of Arnold Schwarzenegger films.


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