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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    Originally posted by SkepticOne
    Should ComReg be making Eircom provide this service?

    Meaning SHDSL !

    Comreg have introduced standards to ensure that Eircom do not rule out the possibility , Eircom agreed to them and published them, see page 15 , deployment limits

    M


  • Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Fergus


    Does anyone agree there is a telling difference between the attitude of ComReg and that of OfTel, if we look at how each of them addressed this Tamdem overload issue in their initial directions on FRIACO.

    First, an amazing terse and somewhat presumptuous paragraph from ComReg:
    In reviewing the draft product description containing the OLO requirements, some serious technical difficulties surrounding the implementation of Single Tandem FRIACO were identified. These difficulties could potentially adversely affect the integrity of the eircom network to the detriment of other users. eircom proposed an alternative, but this proposed solution was not economically efficient.
    The restrictions required to ensure network integrity in the proposed product description for the implementation of Single Tandem FRIACO would have led to a product offering which would have prohibited new entrants from availing of the service. The necessary commercial constraints which the product description would have imposed would have made the product non-commercially viable.
    ..really no understandable explanation of what the difficulties are. And virtually saying that they have decided it's not a runner.

    Now, compare how OfTel approached it (extracting from their doc
    here):
    27. During the Director’s consideration of MCI Worldcom’s request, BT submitted that the expected substantial increase in traffic which would result from unmetered interconnection for internet purposes would exceed the capacity of the PSTN voice network as currently configured. In particular, the DMSU switches would not be able to handle the expected increase in traffic. Despite an extensive switch replacement programme which BT was already undertaking, there was a significant risk that requiring connection for unmetered Internet Traffic which would be switched through the DMSU would cause significant operational difficulties. Since the DMSUs, and their replacement Next Generation Switches ("NGS"), carry voice and internet traffic, BT argued that the potential consequences of capacity difficulties would be far reaching. To avoid this a significant amount of additional investment in switch capacity would have to be made;

    28. The Director has sought external expert advice on these arguments put forward by BT. Consequently he cannot at present determine whether interconnection for unmetered Internet Traffic switched through the DMSU is reasonably required, but no more than is reasonably required, to secure the establishment of Points of Connection for unmetered internet services. Nevertheless the Director expects that he will be able to reach a view on BT’s submissions in due course;

    34. However, OLOs which are currently connected at the DMSU level will not be able to take advantage of the FRIACO interconnection service at the DLE without a means of conveyance of Internet Traffic from the DLE to the Point of Connection with their system at DMSU level;

    35. To meet the concerns of OLOs wishing to purchase SurfTime, which are currently connected to BT’s network at DMSUs and which might, as a result of BT’s migration to the DLE, be unable to continue to provide SurfTime unmetered internet services to all of their customers, BT has offered an "interim solution". Until 31 December 2000 BT will provide, at its cost, Internet Extension Circuits ("IECs") between those DLEs where Internet Traffic grooming takes place and those DMSUs at which other operators are currently connected. Further details of BT’s offer are given in the Product Description at Annex 1;
    No mention of seeking independent external advice from ComReg, and also not a sniff of an interim plan to help OLOs in the meantime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    Originally posted by Muck
    Meaning SHDSL !

    Comreg have introduced standards to ensure that Eircom do not rule out the possibility , Eircom agreed to them and published them, see page 15 , deployment limits

    M
    Thats grand so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Richard Barry


    Originally posted by SkepticOne
    Thats grand so.

    Presumably you have come across the page in the document where they talk of a SHDSL wholesale bitstream offer running at 64k at a cost of EUR 5 per month to the ISP, when you make that statement?!

    R.


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