Middle East Politics Quiz...

PH01

Question 1
Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?

Q2:
Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?

Q3:
Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?

Q4:
Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?

Q5:
What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?

Q6:
In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?

Q7:
What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?

Q8:
What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?

Q9: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?

Q10: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?

Q11: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?

Q12: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?

Q13: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union?

Q14: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?

Q15. What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?

Q16. What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.

Q17: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?

Q18. Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?

Q19: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes?

Q20. Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world?

Q21. Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S.?

Q22. Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid?

Q23. Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America?"

Q24. What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing.

Q25. Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children?

Q26. Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?

Q27. Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?

Q28. Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?

Q29.
Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?

Q30: What country in the Middle East is the United States threatening to attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our allies?

sceptre

Nicely put

Think you need to put "And Finally..." before Q30 for maximum impact.

(or if you didn't write it (I see it says "our allies") you really do need to cite a source or just say someone sent it to you)

PH01

Originally posted by sceptre
Nicely put

Think you need to put "And Finally..." before Q30 for maximum impact.

(or if you didn't write it (I see it says "our allies") you really do need to cite a source or just say someone sent it to you)

Yeah, you're right I should have put in my source. I got it from 'Footie.ie' in the 'Other stuff' section.

However, it's plastered all over the web but apparently it originated from Charley Reese of The Orlando Sentinel "A Pop Quiz On The Middle East - Answers May Surprise You" back in 1998
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/pol/apopquiz.html

But go to this for some interesting responses from Israelis
http://www.us-israel.org/wwwboard/messages/67.html

dathi1

exellent scthuff!! Long live Yazzer!

Typedef

I couldn't resist I posted that quiz to www.israelforum.com

http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php3?postid=40621#post40621

I guess I'm going to get twelve clicked by the Israelis now.

gandalf

Well I think that quiz says a awful lot (althou there are some half truths in there, like the WMD one, a one tonne bomb is not classified as a WMD but as a standard munition).

If your a friend of the US you get away with Murder (literally eh Ariel!!) and if your not you get bombed to the middle ages.

As for your post on the Isreal Forum typedef it looks like its been censored and the link on their site says "Open Forum" what a joke!

Gandalf.

dahamsta

I couldn't resist I posted that quiz to www.israelforum.com

Their arguments are so weak they can't even defend themselves.

adam

Typedef

Here is a reply from one of the Moderators on Israelforum.com

http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php3?postid=40635#post40635

First off, let me guess, you have nothing against Jews….right? Ok thanks.


Question 1
Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?

Israel does, which countries have chemical and biological weapons: Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran

Q2:
Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?

Israel. How many others? 4: Pakistan, India, Cuba, North Korea. Which middle eastern country has signed the CTBT (test ban treaty) Israel. Which country has signed both the CWC and BWC (Chem/bio weapons) treaties and openly flaunts them with the help of French pharmaceutical companies? Syria does. Which middle eastern countries have demonstrated use of chem/bio weapons? Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Iran.

Q3:
Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?

Syria in Lebanon, Egypt in Yemen

Q4:
Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?

None of them do. Since the Iran/Iraq war. And the Iraq 1990-1 war. Which country routinely shells northern Israel? Syria does.

Q5:
What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?

Iraq (when they were an ally), Iran (when they were an ally). Which middle eastern countries routinely disappear religious and political dissidents? Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Sudan.

Q6:
In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?

Iraq, Syria

Q7:
What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?

Iraq, Syria

Q8:
What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
Iraq – 1947-54

Q9: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?

Jordan, Iraq, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Iran for 900,000 Jews kicked out of their countries at gunpoint.

Q10: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?

Jordan, an American diplomat. Sudan, two American diplomats on Arafat’s personal order.

Q11: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?

Iraq, Syria – except they’re just mass murderers

Q12: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?

Israel – in a war zone in a time of war.

Q13: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union?

Not employed by Israel, though he freely passed classified documents to them.

Q14: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?

Israel has, he’s held near my home, in Butner – as far as I know he’s still behind bars for life, do you know different?

Q15. What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?

Do you have any sort of demonstration of that.

Q16. What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.

You confuse countries and people, do you know the difference?

Q17: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?

That would be the US itself. AIPAC is ranked somewhere 25-50th down the list in size and influence by the very lobbies it competes with such as oil, automotive, electronics, home building, finance, insurance and so on.

Q18. Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?

Syria and Lebanon – which country keeps Palestinian refugees as virtual slaves in their own country? Jordan where 2/3rds of all Palestinians in the world actually live.

Q19: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes?

Hmmmm lemme guess….Which International Body has directed more than a third of its total effort since it was founded against one country while ignoring the murderous barbarity of the arab states? The UN has.

Q20. Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world?

Which country receives 3.3 billon a year in military aid? Egypt. Which middle eastern country receives nearly 19 billion in defense equipment at no/low terms? KSA does.

Q21. Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S.?

Which country has technology transfer back to the US in the billions of dollars range? (I don’t actually expect you to answer this one since clearly you didn’t write this screed yourself – just post it back to your masters and tell them to shove it for me) Israel. Which country has first dibs on military equipment more advanced than that available to the US itself, from 1995-8? KSA that’s who.

Q22. Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid?

That would be the PLO who dirties the streets of NYC with their mere presence and who waived a gun over his head the first time he addresses that body.

Q23. Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America?"

That is a lie, simply put, but nice try.

Q24. What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing.
Hmm let’s see…..Easter Island? As a means of controlling terrorism. Sorry but you fail that one too.

Q25. Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children?

A regular bomb. Which country such as it is wraps its young people in Semtex and machine screws and blows them up? PA that’s who.


Q26. Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?

The PA, silly boy, don’t you read the papers?


Q27. Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?

Israel – it’s their land unlike the ethnically cleansed lands of the arab world.

Q28. Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?

The PLO. PA, Hamas, Fatah, PFLP, DLP, Hezbollah, al Aqsa, Force 17 and Tanzim

Q29.
Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?

No one

Q30: What country in the Middle East is the United States threatening to attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our allies?

Iraq

Sand

Yeah when i read the first post at work my first thought was "completely-one-sided-devoid-of-context". Seems your moderator friend provided some context.

spongebob

Originally posted by Sand
Yeah when i read the first post at work my first thought was "completely-one-sided-devoid-of-context". Seems your moderator friend provided some context.

Good Q and A bit here

Q18. Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?

Syria and Lebanon – which country keeps Palestinian refugees as virtual slaves in their own country? Jordan where 2/3rds of all Palestinians in the world actually live.

Jordan is not 'their'country is it. They are refugees from Palestine as you said.

Syria and Lebanon did not shell the Qana compound, Israel did....right over the heads of the Irish UNIFIL contingent as it happens.

M

Manach

Oh well, Israel is a functioning democracy, sort of. At least compared to it's immediate neighbours which have been historically hostile to that country.

Still though really ticked off with them for arming the SLA militas in Leabon which then shot at Irish UN forces.

spongebob

Qana involved the IDF shooting (very precisely) at a Fijian compound that had been there for years, all the damage was caused by one stick of fire. They shot Over the Irish that time.

Of course they and the SLA also shot At the Irish and at the other peacekeepers, as did Hizbollah.

Israeli reconnaissance would have shown the presence of civilians in the Qana compound prior to the attack on the civilians. The UNIFIL troops had bunkers for themselves and were safe but the civilians were all above ground and were totally defenceless.

The officer in charge of the artillery battery was decorated for bravery I heard since.

Israeli democracy is selective, the Arabs may vote (they comprise over 10% of the population of Israel as it existed in 1967). However they may not live in 70% of the country. It is the only democratic apartheid regime in existence now or ever.

M

dathi1

yes I'd say hes probably sitting pretty in some Kibbutz on someone elses land planning his extension.





http://www.supportpalestine.org/

daveirl

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spongebob

Originally posted by dathi1
yes I'd say hes probably sitting pretty in some Kibbutz on someone elses land planning his extension.

http://www.supportpalestine.org/

In fairness to the Kibbutzim, they paid for their land. They are normally left wing and wish to live in a social co-operative environment. They symbolise much of what is good about Israel.

The Qana artillery hero is more than likely in a Settlement on someone elses land and not in a Kibbutz. The settlements are a bunch of heavily armed right wing nutter religous squatters movements with some eastern europeans mixed in. Normally they are financed by freaks in the US.

If the same people tried to squat land within Israel proper.....say on a Kibbutz for example.... they would be evicted immediately, with air strikes and artillery bombardments if need be.

Originally posted by Sand
Yeah when i read the first post at work my first thought was "completely-one-sided-devoid-of-context". Seems your moderator friend provided some context

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Well answered.

dathi1

Yeah when i read the first post at work my first thought was "completely-one-sided-devoid-of-context". Seems your moderator friend provided some context

yes in the context of someone trying to make excuses for occupying someone else’s land today and who's father probably helped bomb and terrorize Palestinians from their land and homes in 1946 because of the holocaust.

Sand

Yes Daithi, very true. But lets talk about context ......

Americans and British planes bombed vast swathes of Germany during the 1939-45 period, killing huge numbers of civillians. The bastards!!!!!

Now this is context : World War Two.

Now taking all the Israeli actions and concentrating soley on them you can incredibly easily ( and lazily) paint them as demonspawn sent to terrorise the world. Add context and youve got to be a little less lazy in throwing your slogans around. Of course thats hard and the left has never been fond of context or anything similar.

If you want to feel better about context and how it can be used think of this.

A man sneaks into his neighbours property and mows down his neighbours with an automatic weapon. The bastard eh?



Context - the man is a palestinian, the neighbours were Israelis living in a west bank settlement. See how easily the media viewpoint changes on the same incident by taking context into account?

dathi1

A man sneaks into his neighbours property and mows down his neighbours with an automatic weapon. The bastard eh?Context - the man is a palestinian, the neighbours were Israelis living in a west bank settlement. See how easily the media viewpoint changes on the same incident by taking context into account?

His neighbors???? you mean his land stealers?
West bank settlement : Land that has been stolen and occupied by European / Russian immigrants.
I think wev had this argument before when we first met
I cant Judge a person who's 12 year old son has been shot dead live on TV by one of the biggest American colonial land grabbing military machines in the middle east. If it was me...?...or you?...your family thrown off your own land? Killed, Murdered.. Because of the Holocaust? It makes the above actions you mention seem more inevitable.

Victor

Which Middle Eastern country first gave Arab women the vote? - apparently Israel.

Sand

Thats why Im talking about context Daithi - Im not going to get into the rights and wrongs of the situation. It just irritates me when I see something as lazy as this. Its nearly as bad as the poster campaigns during the Nice Treaty.

Israels actions taken on their own without any context are often reprehensible - taken in the context of their enemies suicide bombing childrens birthday parties theyre practically normal and predictable. You use context one way to exscuse/explain palestinian attacks but you ignore context when it comes to the other side - imo, thats not looking at whats going on properly and just engaging in name calling - many people, especially the media, seem to have picked their "underdog" and keep rooting for it.

Typedef

The major flaw in your logic Sand is that, since Israel occupies (contrary to the UN's edicts) Palestinian land and colonises that land, Israel is in terms of the rest of the world's estimation an aggressive State that is hell bent on colonisation of land that the rest of the world (read UN) say Israel should never have moved it's army into.

So speaking in context, so long as Israel colonises land it claims to occpy for 'security reasons' almost all actions taken by the Palestinians can be viewed as resistance of colonisation and protection of their own land.

Perhaps though you can resolve how it is contextually correct for the State of Israel to colonise land it (Israel) has taken by force in defiance of the UN?

Somehow, when one states the resistance of colonisation case as bluntly as I have just done so above, defence of Israeli occupation seems like artifice of the irrationally partisan pro-Israeli. It's not a crime to be pro-Israeli, but, in the very least one should admit that claims to occpy Palestinian land for security reasons, fall flat on their face when you (read one) starts to build houses on that land.

Typedef.

dathi1

Lazy?

The Context:

Land grabbing, occupation and murder with or without collateral damage. / Armed resistance with or without collateral damage.

I'm not gona put long story books in here for people to troll over....defeats the purpose of serious debate.

Meh

Originally posted by dathi1
Land grabbing, occupation and murder with or without collateral damage. / Armed resistance with or without collateral damage.

Are you saying that the Israeli army's brutality and killing of civilians justifies Palestinian suicide attacks on civilians? Because if you are, you must also accept that IRA attacks on civilians justified Bloody Sunday. It's this kind of primitive proto-morality that got the Middle East into its current mess. "An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind".

I cant Judge a person who's 12 year old son has been shot dead...

If this person decides to murder innocent people to "get back" at the murderers of their son, then I certainly can judge them.

Typedef

Here lads, I think you lot may find this thread I started in israelforum.com interesting.

http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=2330

I essentially ask the pro-Israeli proponents, without telling me how Palestinian people don't have a right to land, how it is Israeli settlements are justifiable.

I imagine it won't be a long thread, but, the responses should be interesting.

Sand

The major flaw in your logic Sand is that,

LOL? My logic is simple - take something out of context and you can set it up anyway you want - see Britsh bombing German cities - put Israels actions in the context theyre in, the whole middle east and their neighbours attempts to wipe them out many times and to demonise jews in every possible educational and media outlet they can, and you cant be as one sided. Now why you prattle on about an example of context after this, that is merely backing up my point I do not know.

Somehow, when one states the resistance of colonisation case as bluntly as I have just done so above, defence of Israeli occupation seems like artifice of the irrationally partisan pro-Israeli.

Hardly, consider the context of the Israeli invasion of the West Bank and Gaza strips, and the context of a continuing threat from those neighbours and from guerillas and/or terrorists and it becomes more understandable as to why the Israelis would wish to create a buffer state between their enemies and Israel proper. The same for the creation of the "garrison" settlements. Are they correct? No. Even in context the palestinian murder of civillians is not correct but the context of the situation means you realise why such suicide bombings take place. The lazy person accepts the context in the latter, but not in the former - or perhaps theyre just biased to the underdog.

almost all actions taken by the Palestinians can be viewed as resistance of colonisation

Hehe, Type admitting the potential that some actions taken by the palestinians might not be exscusable as resistance of colonisation:) Mind you, almost is probably an afterthought in case of nuclear attacks or somesuch:)

Typedef

Sorry Sand, somehow I'm not seeing the corollary between 'security operation' and bulldozing of Palestinian homes whlst Israeli homes are built on occuped territory.

Perhaps though, you can explain how it is part of an ongoing Security operation to colonise the occupied territories?

I'm just curious.

Sand

Perhaps though, you can explain how it is part of an ongoing Security operation to colonise the occupied territories?

I already did didnt I? The Israelis most likely wish to create a buffer between their enemies and themselves and they use fanatical settlers to establish settlements as "garrisons" complete with milatary protection - as I understand it such settlements get very beneficial terms from the Israeli government, and they tend to take the brunt of the palestinian attacks and bombings - the buses that bring their children to school for example are some of the most heavily guarded in the world Id imagine - due no doubt to the repeated palestinian attacks on such school buses.

Sorry Sand, somehow I'm not seeing the corollary between 'security operation' and bulldozing of Palestinian homes whlst Israeli homes are built on occuped territory.

Neither do I, but then I dont see any corollary between attacks on Israeli civillians and Palestinian "resistance of colonialisation" either. Handily enough though, they both create a context for each other where they become more and more exscusable/explainable. Of course, you can remove the context from Israeli actions to call them names, but it is then damn hard for you to bemoan the tragedies facing the palestinians when you explain/exscuse their actions which are at least as bad. Keep trying though, youre definitly not alone.