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Buffy -_Season Seven

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Wow! Things seem to be really hotting up now!

    Episode 8
    SLEEPER
    Director: Alan Levi
    Writer: David Fury & Jane Espenson
    Buffy anxiously awakens Xander in the middle of the night following her discovery that Spike sired Holden. Spike has been staying with Xander, but the Vamp is out for the evening. In fact, Spike is burying his latest kill in a shallow grave as he hums a jaunty tune.

    In London, a man bursts into a home to find the body of a dead girl on the floor. Though he makes a valiant effort to defend himself, he takes a knife in the back from a now-familiar black robed figure.

    Xander and Buffy argue over Spike's current status: killer (Xander's opinion) versus non-killer (Buffy's). Spike gets home, and when Buffy subtly questions him about his late-night doings, she's surprised he doesn't flinch at a mention of Holden. Spike heads off to bed, and Buffy decides someone needs to keep an eye on him. Anya's enlisted, and though she's nervous, she agrees to stay at Xander's and keep watch.
    Buffy gets home to find Willow putting Dawn to bed. The girl was freaked, and Buffy is devastated to learn she saw the ghost (maybe) of their mother. Buffy doesn't know whom to trust about recent events, and determines she needs proof of Spike's misdeeds either way.
    Outside Spike's room, Anya is nervous. Twitchy. She's convinced that if Spike is killing, he's keeping trophies of his victims in his room (like drinking their blood isn't enough). She enters his lair carefully and searches, but he awakens and grabs her. She fumbles a bit till she comes up with an explanation: sex. She wants sex, with Spike! The Vamp is flattered (sort of) but turns her down, and Anya escapes unscathed. When Spike departs for the night, Anya calls Buffy.
    The Slayer trails Spike through a crowded town square and spots him chatting up a young woman. She loses the two of them in the crowd, and Spike pulls his willing target into a dark alley. He's set to dig in when he sees Buffy over his shoulder, but Spike's getting duped by the Big Bad too. The vision of Buffy seductively encourages him to make the kill, and he eagerly complies.
    The real Buffy catches up with Spike later that night, demanding to know the truth. Spike denies he's been killing, and accuses his ex of being jealous. He's very convincing, and is actually shocked when Buffy throws the subject of Holden in his face. Confused, Spike again denies it, but his memory is a little fuzzy.
    The next night, Xander tries to keep Spike at home, but gets knocked out for his trouble. At the Bronze, Spike asks around about the woman he'd been there with the other night. A woman approaches and flirts with him; she turns Vamp on him and offers to pick off the crowd. He refuses and she attacks, insisting that since he sired her, he ought to give her a hand. Horrified, he stakes her.
    Outside the Bronze, Buffy questions the bouncer, who recalls a Billy Idol wannabe leaving with a different girl every night. Her phone rings; it's Spike, wanting to see her. He's starting to remember doing very bad things.
    They meet in the basement of a creepy abandoned house, and Buffy is edgy (and armed). Spike points to the dirt floor of the basement: he's been burying his kills there. The morphing First demon lurks in the background in the guise of Spike, humming. Real Spike hears the tune and flips out, attacking Buffy as the dead rise from the ground. The new Vamps grab Buffy and offer her to Spike, and he takes a lick of blood from a cut on her arm.
    In a flash, all SpikeÕs recent crimes come flooding back into his memory, and he jerks away in horror. With that, Buffy makes quick work of the new Vampires. The First whispers to Spike that since he failed, Buffy will kill him. Spike's ready to die to escape the demon haunting him, but instead Buffy sits with him. The Vamp breaks down in tears, begging her for help. Reluctantly she agrees, as the First looks on in disgust. Buff takes Spike home, wanting to keep him close so the gang can learn everything they can about the Big Bad.
    In London, Giles bursts into the home of the dead girl, and finds the other man stabbed. The man's eyes fly open. "It's started," he gurgles, just as a ghoulish robed figure swings an axe at Giles' head. Hello, cliffhanger.

    But did anyone see Angel. Holy **** but that was some amazing TV. Best episode ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Yeah i agree. Angel was F***ing deadly last night. That show just keeps getting better and better.

    Buffy was excellent as well. Has the be the best season yet.

    One thing i have to do though is to stop looking at the spoilers for both shows, sometimes i cant help myself, i already know what is going to happen in Ep 18 of Buffy and Ep 15 of Angel.

    Please somebody help me with my addiction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    EPisode 8
    NEVER LEAVE ME
    Director: David Solomon
    Writer: Drew Goddard
    Andrew struts through town in a long black leather duster, doing his darndest to look tough. Warren needs him to kill again, since the Seal of Danzalthar needs more blood than the dead Jonathan had to offer. Warren morphs into Jonathan and tells Andrew that being dead is pretty cool. But he needs Andrew to make another kill, and soon.

    Buffy's got Spike tied up in her room (to a chair, alas), and he's hungry. Buffy sends Willow out for some animal blood to tide him over and dials up the Watcher's Council looking for Giles. They are uncooperative, but with good reason: they have no idea where Giles is either, and they are desperate to locate him.

    Andrew tries to complete his killing task with a teeny, tiny pig. Even the pig is too wily for him, though, and escapes, so Andrew heads to the butcher shop for some blood: a serious tactical error. As he's leaving, Willow bumps into him and chases him down an alley. Despite his false bravado (and leather jacket), he's no match for an angry Willow. She drags him home with her and demands to know why he needs the blood.
    Buffy feeds Spike some of the animal blood to slake his thirst. The Vamp confesses he can't remember killing, but he knows he's been blacking out. He explains the mechanics of how he got his soul back to be with Buffy again, but finally realizes that when they were together last year, Buffy was only using him. "You hated yourself and took it out on me," he laments.
    Anya and Xander convincingly play Good Cop/Bad Cop on Andrew. Anya hauls off and backhands the pipsqueak (she's really into her role), and after a bit more pushing, he breaks. In the other room, however, Spike is alone, and the morphing First Spike appears and hums a little tune. Upon returning to Spike, Buffy can sense something off, but is still taken by surprise when the Vamp breaks free of his bonds and smashes through the wall to get to Andrew. He manages to take a bite of the guy before Buffy knocks him unconscious.
    The gang regroups downstairs, and oddly, Xander is the one who figures out what may be going on with Spike. He links him with sleeper agents that are triggered by a certain word or event, transforming them into something completely different from their normal personalities. The tune the First is humming triggers the change in Spike.
    Spike ends up chained in the basement, and Buff goes to him to explain their theory. He doesn't care, and tries to scare her into killing him. It doesn't work; Buffy honestly believes he can find redemption, and she won't let him throw that chance away. Just then, black-robed guys storm the house, breaking windows and coming through walls. It's an ambush.
    Meanwhile, in an empty field Principal Wood is digging a grave. As he was leaving work that night, something drew him to the basement of the school. He found Jonathan's body, and brought him to the field. Whoa.
    The Scoobies are nearly overpowered by the bad guys, also called the Bringers. Buffy and Dawn find some measure of success, and eventually they are able to fight off the baddies. Their eyes are finally visible, eerily replaced with symbols. Buffy suddenly recalls seeing the men before, the Christmas it snowed in Sunnydale, years ago. She knows now: it's the First that's coming. Suddenly she remembers Spike. She races to the basement, but he's gone. He's the one they wanted all along.
    In London, the Watchers' Council makes plans to mobilize against the coming demon. They've been hit from all sides, but decide to head for the Hellmouth. Sounds like a good idea, but there's one problem: the building explodes in a ball of flame. No more Watchers' Council.
    The Bringers have Spike at the Hellmouth, and they nail him to a huge carved symbol as he screams. They carve figures into his skin as the First morphs into Buffy, and she taunts him mercilessly. Finally, they hang him over the Seal of Danzalthar and watch his blood fall upon it. The Seal illuminates, then finally breaks open, delivering a huge, freaky-looking and very gross, uh, thing. It's a Vampirish, demony something-or-other, and it definitely looks pissed.

    Buffy is getting better, but still no match for the tour-de-force that Angel is proving himself to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    In Canaries - will some one else do the honors!
    cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 933 ✭✭✭mooman_00


    I thought last nights Buffy was ok............and i thought last nights angel was shiit until the last five minutes where you find out
    that it was mostly all a dream and angelus really is back....class, good attempt at an evil laugh too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 933 ✭✭✭mooman_00


    Originally posted by daveirl
    Nah Angel was good throughout. You knew it was too happy an ending though. So it wasn't too much of a surprise.

    sorry i ment that, with the ending that we saw happening, i thought that it was gonna end up being soppy after such a big build up, i didnt mean that the whole show was shiit.............it was good ........

    0 points for clarification.......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Thanks for last week my mercurial mate!


    SHOWTIME
    Director: Michael Grossman
    Writer: David Fury
    A new girl, Rona, arrives in town at the bus stop, and a welcoming committee surprises her. Okay, maybe not welcoming: it's the Bringers, ready to attack. Luckily, Buffy saves the day, putting the dudes out of commission fast.

    Back home, Will and Kennedy get to know each other upstairs while the rest of the girls worry about the Ubervamp, a.k.a. Turok-Han, undoubtedly headed their way. After Buffy gets back with the new recruit, she's frustrated to discover the gang has no new information on how to defeat the First or to rescue Spike. Giles has one idea, but Anya balks; it involves an oracle called Beljoxa's Eye. The catch is that Anya will have to grovel and beg some of her old demon pals to open up the vortex to get to the oracle. Buffy pleads for her help, for Spike's sake.

    Speaking of Spike, he's still strung up underground with the First, who enjoys parading around as Buffy, taunting the Vamp. Spike still believes "she will come for me."
    Across town, Anya and Giles try to con the owner of a demon bar into opening the portal so they can have a visit with Beljoxa's Eye. When Anya's offer of sex doesn't tempt the demon (apparently humans aren't a turn-on), Giles dangles the prospect of Buffy killing all of his patrons. That does it. He summons the vortex, and Giles and Anya stumble through.
    Willow hears from the Coven in England that another Potential is holed up in a nearby motel, so Buff and Xander set out to retrieve her. In the basement, the girls are training with various weapons and equipment. However, there's one problem: they suck. Big time. None of them are up for the job, so they spend most of the time worrying over their own mortality. One in particular, Eve, nearly has the rest of them convinced that nothing they do can save them. Her attitude is that they'll all get knocked off by the Big Bad, so why bother?
    Eve's attitude makes sense when Buffy and Xander find her body in the motel room. She's been dead for days, meaning the First has been wearing her face, hanging around Buffy's house, gathering information. Buff rushes home to confront the First, who has learned all about the Potentials' weaknesses masquerading as Eve. It vanishes, leaving everyone shaken.
    Anya and Giles have a chat with Beljoxa's Eye, and it informs them that something has disrupted the line of the Chosen, giving the First a chance to wreak havoc. The Slayer herself is the source of the disruption, and Anya believes that she and the rest of the Scoobies are at fault for bringing Buffy back from the dead last year. Whoops.
    Back at the house, Buffy asks Willow to work her mojo to protect the house as the Bringers and the Turok-Han arrive after sundown. Though extremely nervous about practicing her dark craft, Willow does a spell to hold the UV off. The evil is too strong, though, and the gang plus junior Slayers fight through the Bringers and bolt away from the house. While she prepares for a showdown with the Ubervamp, Buffy sends everyone in another direction. But the Turok-Han, determined to pick off the Potentials, follows them instead of fighting Buffy.
    The gang arrives at a huge construction site (soon to be the new public library), and they're terrified. Buffy arrives on the heels of the Ubervamp and announces, "Welcome to Thunderdome." Turns out Buffy, Will and Xander planned this turn of events to lure the Turok-Han away from Spike's prison and, with a little luck, kill it. The big fight ensues with a little crossbow action here, a little pickaxe-swinging there. Buffy gets in a few final blows before wrapping a piece of wire around the Vamp's neck and pulling, hard. Poof, it's dead. "Dust, just like the rest of them." There's another reason Buffy put on the performance: to prove to the Junior Slayers that she can fight against evil and win. It seems to do the trick.
    The First is a little peeved.
    Underground, Spike hangs from his chains, bruised and beaten. He sees Buffy approach with a big knife and tells her, "You can't hurt me," but when he looks into her eyes, he tearfully realizes she's the real thing. She cuts him down and he nearly falls, but she holds him up and leads him home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    POTENTIAL
    Director: Douglas Petrie
    Writer: Douglas Petrie
    In the cemetery, some nervous Slayerettes are on the hunt. From the shadows, a dark figure leaps out and moves in for the kill, knocking down Rona and grabbing Vi around the throat. They'd be dead in a heartbeat except...the Vamp is Spike, and he's helping Buffy train the girls to use their instincts in combating the bad guys. Since the First is in temporary retreat, they need to use this time to learn how to kill. Buff and her ex demonstrate some supposed fighting techniques, but even the girls can sense the heat still simmering between them.

    The next day, Buffy is back at her school job, counseling a student, Amanda, who feels like she's weirder than normal when it comes to relationships. Buffy can relate, and ends up going off on a tangent of her own on the subject. It's clear there's one thing on her mind: Spike.

    There's a training outing planned for the potentials, to Dawn's dismay. Buff nearly cancels when she hears from Willow that there's another possible Slayer in town, living right under their noses. But Willow talks her into going through with the outing, deciding to do a locator spell while Buffy and the girls are practicing.
    Dawn's got a serious inferiority complex going on; apparently the novelty of being the Key has finally worn off. She's always being left out of the loop these days, and it's weighing heavily on her self-esteem. Dawn, Xander, Anya and Andrew hover around Willow during her exceptionally stinky locator spell. When the spell is complete, Dawn is thrown against the front door and is surrounded by a glow, indicating that SHE is the potential Slayer. She's shocked, and so is everyone else. Emotions run high, and no one seems to know what to do with the new information, especially Dawn. She goes to her room to be alone, and overhears the gang debating pros and cons of her new Chosen status. Confused, she climbs out her window and slips away from the house.
    The Slayerette outing is a trip to a Demon Bar so the girls can get used to places teeming with inside information. Buffy warns them, "There's not a being in here who wouldn't gladly rip out your throat." However, there's one exception present: Clem! He and Buffy enthusiastically catch up, much to the girls' amusement. At Buffy's request, Clem makes some big monster googly eyes at them and reminds them that despite his friendly appearance, he's still a demon.
    While out walking the neighborhood, Dawn runs into Amanda, who's had a bizarre night. She stayed late at Swing choir practice and got jumped by some guy with a crinkled-up face, and somehow she locked the guy in a classroom. Dawn, Future Slayer, decides she's the girl to take on this job. They arrive at the room with the Vamp inside, and are surprised when he leaps down from the ceiling to attack. Dawn gets some good licks in, then grabs Amanda and runs.
    Meanwhile, Buffy has the Slayerettes in a crypt, looking for bad guys. They find a body that turns out to be a fresh Vamp, and Buffy takes it on. She's totally in control, unlike Dawn, who's fumbling in her attempts to kill the Vampire at the school. Buffy plays cat-and-mouse with her prey, until she and Spike leave the girls in the crypt with the bloodsucker for a trial by fire. Meanwhile, Dawn and Amanda are about to be taken out by the Vamp when the Bringers inadvertently save the day, bursting through the windows to get to their target. Only the target isn't Dawn; it's Amanda. She's the real potential Slayer.
    Luckily, Dawn knows her way around a science lab and turns a big flame on them to escape with Amanda. The rest of the posse shows up just in time (thank goodness for cell phones) and takes on the Bringers. Amanda somehow calls on her instincts and wields a mean stake, dusting the Vampire and doing some damage to a Bringer. Buffy reveals her Slayerness to Amanda, and the student is comically irritated with her. She'd gone to see Buffy earlier that night, since the counselor had said to come to her with her problems. At the front door, she got hit with a strange orange light that made her feel all woozy--Willow's locator spell. Dawn just got caught in the magical crossfire, then later met up with Amanda on the street.
    The next morning, the girls (who were obviously successful getting rid of their Vamp the night before), embrace a new understanding of their powers, as well as their new inductee. Dawn's feeling alone and dejected, but Xander comes to the rescue. He knows how she feels, since he's been in the same boat for years. Through his understanding and kindness, he makes Dawn realize that even though she's not a Chosen, she's still special.

    Angel rocked again last night. I love Angelus episodes. Sean Astin directed this episode ( I wonder is this the Sean Astin of the LOTR fame - I know he directs stuff) – it was very Silence of the Lambs with some Hitchcockian bits - its got very racy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Ah ****e, i watched the buffy episode and didnt enjoy it so missed the angel one.

    arse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭richindub2


    That buffy episode was truely horrible, full of taking itself far too seriously badness. The angel ep was good though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Loved Buffy last week... season 7 is brilliant and much as I hate losing a programme which has been part of my life for over 5 years, it's great to see it going out on a bang. And re. Sean Astin... yes indeed it was Sam Gamgee of the Shire. Small world there in ShowBizLand!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭DMT


    Originally posted by daveirl
    Nah Angel was good throughout. You knew it was too happy an ending though. So it wasn't too much of a surprise.

    Buffy Season Seven story arc is even clearer now
    Buffy will have to die to restore the Slayer lineage
    Spoilered so as not to give away above spoiler.
    But isn't Faith also a slayer? So she could carry on the lineage. And when Buffy died the last time, wouln't that have created another slayer, so now there theoretically could be three of them?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    The Killer in Me
    Director: David Solomon
    Writer: Drew Z. Greenberg
    To help the Potentials understand their powers, Giles is taking them on a little camping trip for some meditation and visionquesting. After they leave, Buffy greets a chained-up (by choice) Spike downstairs, but is horrified when the Vamp screams out in pain, blood dripping from his nose.

    While Buffy worries over the possibility of Spike's chip malfunctioning, Willow brews some tea for Kennedy, who's upstairs nursing a cold. Upon delivering the tea, Will finds Kennedy looking "surprisingly robust and casually dressy" for someone who is ill. Kennedy faked sickness to pursue her own mission: to take Willow on a date. At the Bronze, Kennedy seriously flirts with an off-kilter Will. The Slayerette turns on the charm full throttle as they discuss their histories, and soon Willow is quietly receptive to the attention.

    Meanwhile, Spike's in almost constant pain, and he's pretty sure it's related to the chip. Buffy tries to contact Riley to see if the former Initiative operative can help, but when she's only able to reach a flower shop, she quips, "It's either a wrong number or a giant government conspiracy."
    Back in Willow's room after their date, Kennedy leans in and kisses Willow. Kennedy's got a dreamy look on her face until she opens her eyes to see the face of Warren staring back at her. Kennedy freaks, and Willow is horror-stricken to see the image of her dead nemesis in the mirror instead of her own face. She races downstairs and is confronted by the gang, including Buffy, who takes a swing at her. Him. Whatever. It's only once Buffy makes physical contact that they realize Willow/Warren isn't the First (since the First can only take non-corporeal form.) Willow takes off to fix the enchantment herself, convinced it's her own guilt that has brought it on. She has no luck, but Kennedy shows up to help, and Willow grudgingly allows her to come along.
    At the Summers house, the Scoobies get a call from England that arouses their suspicions. They hear about how Giles had been on the wrong end of an axe swing, but no one knows how he could have escaped. Worried that they've left the Slayerettes in the hands of the First, everyone (including Andrew) sets out to find them.
    Willow and Kennedy show up at a UC Sunnydale coven meeting seeking help, and Will is shocked to find Amy there. The former rat has been attending meetings, trying to sort out her own problems, and is sympathetic to Willow's plight. She offers to help by performing a chant, but when she does, Willow hauls off and slaps her. Warren has surfaced briefly and is trying to take over Willow's personality. Willow takes off, throwing a spell to keep Kennedy from following her.
    Willow--uh--Warren ends up at a gun shop. S/he makes a purchase, which can only mean one thing: trouble.
    Buffy and Spike locate the old Initiative’s underground caverns, hoping to find a solution to the chip problem. When they break in, they find dozens of demon corpses left to rot when the military sealed the place. Unfortunately, the demons aren’t all dead, and one of them attacks and drags Spike away. Buffy chases him, and ends up killing the demon just as the lights come up. It's the military! Riley apparently got the message and instructed them to do whatever Buffy needed. "I knew it," she cries, "a giant government conspiracy!" They offer assistance to Spike about the chip, which they can either repair or remove. It's up to Buffy.
    After a long car trip into the wilderness, the gang attacks Giles, feeling him up in a rather suggestive manner. Fortunately, he's as corporeal as they come, and the girls are all safe. Crisis averted.
    However, another crisis arises for Kennedy, who realizes that Amy's not nearly as sympathetic towards Willow as she pretended. Evidently, Amy's at fault for the Willow/Warren transformation. Envious of her enormous power, Amy placed a hex on Willow that allowed her to choose her own punishment. Out of guilt, Willow is now losing her identity. Kennedy is not about to let that happen, but Amy snaps her fingers and sends her to the Summers backyard just as Willow comes roaring in, gun in hand. It's a reenactment of the day Tara was killed, only this time, Willow's the would-be shooter. She raves at Kennedy, who's confused by Willow's ramblings. Turns out Willow isn't feeling guilty for killing Warren, but for forgetting, even for a moment, Tara. It's killing her to let go of her dead lover, but Kennedy realizes the spell can be broken, just like in fairytales, with a kiss. When she pulls away, Willow is herself again, and arms wrapped around each other, they go quietly into the house.

    Aaarrggh! Buffy is really starting to annoy me. Its a real stop-start season, just when you think its kicking off they slow the pace with crappy episodes like this. Whay can't Buffy be as good as Angel. I'm going to start up an Angel thread where we can talk about how good Angel is and say "btw isn't Buffy crap!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭gazzer


    I thought that Buffy was quite good last night. I suppose they had that episode to take a little break from the first evil etc...From all the reports that i have read all the episodes to follow are really good ep 17 was on in the US a few weeks ago and it is meant to be amazing.

    What did you all think of Angel...???? What a f****ng brilliant episode...that show just gets better and better...cant wait for next week when (i have put the name at the bottom of the screen in case you dont want to be spoiled) shows up.. I really hope that Angel doesnt get cancelled this year.

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    /Wes gets Faith out of Jail to help in the fight against ANGELUS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Wow, I thought you had to set the text colour to grey or something. There's actually html (or whatever) code to do it for you!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    buffy is really doing my head in at the moment. i'm going to tape that and watch The Bill instead of vice versa that i have done until now. that way i can fast forward all the stupid bits which at the moment is everything except the ads :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 933 ✭✭✭mooman_00


    anyone else think buffy was ok last night............
    really had to say something about ashanti being init, man she was hot as a deamon......buffy is a big let down when followed by angel anyway, which is fukking brilliant at the mo, evil cordelia, faith out of prision.....class


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    First Date
    Director: David Grossman
    Writer: Jane Espenson
    Giles finally explains how he managed to escape the ax-wielding Bringer all those months ago: his "exceptional instincts and years of training" saved his life. Or maybe it was luck, and a pair of squeaky Bringer shoes. He soon realizes that Spike is now chipless, since Buffy had the Initiative remove it and not repair it. Giles isn't pleased at all, worrying over the safety of the Slayerettes as well as Buffy herself. Buff trusts that Spike can be a good person, but he needs to be given the opportunity. Giles still senses the connection between them, and though Buffy denies any physical relationship, she can't write it off altogether.

    As Xander woos a woman, Lissa, over rope at a construction demonstration, Buffy decides to do some snooping in Principal Wood's office. His skeevy behavior of late (like the shovel incident in the basement) has her a little concerned. Robin catches her in his office, and Buffy comes up with a bad, yet somehow acceptable excuse. To her surprise, Wood asks her out on a date, and she agrees. After Buffy leaves, Wood lifts a wipe board to reveal a vast and very shiny collection of knives. Sharp knives.

    Buffy talks with Willow about her upcoming date with her boss, and comes up with three possibilities for his motivation. 1) He thinks she's hot. 2) He wants to promote her. Yeah, right. 3) He wants to kill her. Buffy waffles about her own intentions towards the Woodster, but decides that she could really like him.
    Andrew's trying to set up the new microwave when he's approached by the First in the guise of Jonathan. Playing on Andrew’s guilt over having killed Jonathan, the First urges him to get Willow’s new gun and kill the Potentials. After all, the First points out, Buffy's making Andrew pay for committing murder, but she doesn't give the same treatment to her other formerly murderous friends.
    Xander is proud he has a date with Lissa, and Anya's jealous as hell. Buffy's excited about her date, but Spike is...less jealous. In fact, he seems perfectly okay with it when he runs into Buffy as she's getting ready, but he still very obviously cares for her, and vice versa. Downstairs, Willow and the Potentials do some Googling on the Principal and are surprised to find absolutely no record of him at all. Spooky.
    That night, Robin is taking Buffy down a seamy back alley to a restaurant she's never heard of when they're jumped by a pile of Vamps. Buffy's convinced Wood set her up, but as she's kicking booty, she notices he's helping her out. When the Vamps are defeated, Robin leads a stunned Buffy into the restaurant. Buff is awestruck to learn that not only does he know she's the Slayer, but that his mother was the Slayer as well. Robin was four when she was killed, and he was raised by her watcher. He's been looking for revenge ever since, fighting evil and killing Vampires whenever he gets the chance.
    Back at the house, Andrew presents the gun to the First, then starts to clumsily grill it for information about its weaknesses. "Are you wearing a wire?" a suspicious Jonathan/First asks. Oops. Apparently Andrew IS wearing one so Willow can listen in from the basement. Andrew's afraid, but he stands against the First, even though it's verrrrry angry with him now.
    Poor Xander: he's fallen into a familiar trap of dating demonic chicks. His date, Lissa, is a baddie, and she hangs him up over the recently uncovered Seal of Danthalzar in the school. She's going to drain his blood till the seal opens and releases another Ubervamp. Terrific. Somehow, Xander manages to send a text message to Willow, and Spike heads out to retrieve Buffy from her date to rescue him.
    Spike finds Buffy at the restaurant and drags both her and Robin to save Xander. Robin's stash of very sharp knives comes in handy, and they all attack Lissa. During the fight, Wood recognizes Spike's undeadness as the Vamp valiantly tries to defeat Xander's demon date. Xander's blood starts the Seal opening, but when Wood cuts him down, the Seal slams shut just in time. They defeat Lissa, and as they regroup, Wood notices the romantic tension simmering between Buffy and Spike.
    At home, Giles berates the gang for focusing on romantic interludes instead of Evil. Later, Spike decides he's going to leave town, so as not to put Buffy in danger. However, Buff stops him, saying, "I'm not ready for you to not be here."
    Wood recovers from the fight at his own home, and is approached by the First in the guise of his dead mother. The Principal isn't even remotely willing to switch sides, until the First reveals that he met his mother's killer that night. It's Spike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Get it Done
    Director: Douglas Petrie
    Writer: Douglas Petrie
    Buffy dreams of walking through the house, checking out the small army of girls taking up every inch of the house in sleep. In the corner, she spies Chloe crying, then is jumped by the First Slayer, who tells her, "It's not enough." She awakens spooked.

    Anya and Spike, meanwhile, have taken off for a semi-date of drinking and debauchery when they are attacked by a demon sent by D'Hoffryn to kill Anya. Instead of killing it, Spike just beats it up and takes off with Anya in tow. He's gone pretty soft lately.

    The next morning, Buffy and Robin Wood discuss the rise in bad behavior happening at Sunnydale High. Buffy's pretty sure that the typical Hellmouth-induced negativity is coming a little early. To help Buffy, Wood has brought an old emergency kit of his mother's that should have been handed down to the next Slayer, but Robin kept it.
    Buff decides it's time for Wood to see where she does her real work, at home, with the baby Slayers. They meet Andrew, who's cooking, Kennedy, who's training the Slayerettes in fighting technique, and Willow, who's hauling weaponry. Wood has a run-in with Spike in the basement, and the animosity between them is palpable. Robin clearly wants to know all about Spike, but the Vamp can't figure out why.
    Later that night, Dawn and Buffy check in on the Potentials, only to find that Chloe has hanged herself. As they stare at the body, the First appears as the dead girl, going on about how it's going to win no matter what they do, blah blah blah. When it disappears, Buffy has Chloe cut down and goes out to bury her body, alone.
    Upon her return, all the girls are mourning. The Slayer is angry, declaring that Chloe was weak, and that the rest of them will be useless until they start really dedicating themselves to the fight. Buffy even complains that Spike's softer side isn't helping them at all. In Anya's words, it's an "everybody sucks but me" speech.
    Buffy opens a locked box inside the emergency kit, and it contains a collection of shadow casters. According to the accompanying book, when viewed in order the shadows tell the story of how the first Slayer was created. The gang sets up the items, then watches as Dawn reads from an ancient, cryptic text. First there was the earth, demons, men, a girl. The men chained the girl to the earth to fight the demons, but to really understand what happened in the past, the Scoobies must make an "exchange": a portal opens, Buffy dives through it, and a giant demon with tusks appears and takes Buffy's place. The demon kicks their butts and takes off into the night. Since Willow's the one with the magic, it’s up to her to reopen the portal and retrieve Buffy. But they need to get that demon back to make the exchange and bring Buffy back home.
    Buffy arrives on a desert plain, alone. She finds a group of men, who explain she is the last (not the latest) guardian of the Hellmouth, and they can give her the power to fight evil. They knock her out and chain her, revealing that they are the source of her power. The men created the First Slayer by giving her the heart of a demon, and they want to do the same to Buffy. They release an evil mist to merge with Buffy.
    While Willow unleashes her own power trying to recreate the portal, Spike finds his old leather jacket (which Wood seems to recognize) and, with his old swagger back in place, he takes off after the demon and kills it. That’ll show Buffy he hasn’t gone soft! Meanwhile, Willow gets the portal open, but only after taking power from both Anya and Kennedy, leaving them collapsed on the floor.
    Finally, Buffy defies the evil mist swirling about her, breaking free of the chains and knocking the men down one by one. Although the last man declares that everything will be disrupted by her behavior, the Slayer doesn't really care. He wonders how she'll save the world without the power they had to offer, then touches her face for a moment, giving her a vision.
    At that moment, the portal opens, and Spike tosses the demon through it. Buffy is home, surrounded by her friends.
    Later, Kennedy is weirded out by Willow's earlier actions: it hurt when she took the power. Will is apologetic, but wants Kennedy to understand the truth of magic, that it's not always pleasant. The situation between them remains unresolved, and Kennedy walks off, alone.
    Will goes to Buffy, who is grateful for being brought back. However, Buffy thinks she may regret rejecting the power the men offered, because the vision they gave her was of an enormous army of ferocious Ubervamps, armed and ready to attack.
    I hate the potentials, I hope they all get wiped out! The final scene was quite good - although it looks like they stole it from Spawn. BTW, does any one read Swamp thing or Sandman or Hellblazer - I think James Masters would be the coolest John Constantaine if a proper live action movie was made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Borzoi


    Definitely one of the better episodes of this season.

    Meanwhile Angel contiues to rock
    "Vampire with a gun":D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Buffy was good last night.. i recorded angel so i will probably watch tonight.. so far Angel has been the better series though.

    Wonder will there be a joined ep featuring the first in both of them at the same time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭DMT


    Originally posted by daveirl
    Buffy will have to die to restore the Slayer lineage
    But isn't Faith also a slayer? So she could carry on the lineage. And when Buffy died the last time, wouln't that have created another slayer, so now there theoretically could be three of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Only one finale has been filmed and RUMOUR strongly suggests that
    Spike will sacrifice himself to save Buffy and the world and the Slayer confesses her love for him before he dies
    .
    Episode 20, "Dirt Girls" aired in the U.S. last week and saw
    Faith return to sunnydale, Caleb make an appearance, the mysoginistic corporeal representative of The First, and Xander lose an eye in battle!
    It's WAR


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Damn you Amneiac - I've been spoiler free all season. You tempted me and I took a bite - now I feel all dirty and used!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Storyteller
    Director: Marita Grabiak
    Writer: Jane Espenson
    In the vein of Masterpiece Theatre, Andrew enjoys a quiet evening by the fire, and he's ready tell us a heroic tale that he likes to call "Buffy, the Slayer of the Vampires." However, his surroundings are only an illusion, broken by Anya pounding on the bathroom door. He's videotaping himself telling Buffy's story, so he takes his camera elsewhere.

    Andrew has decided to preserve Buffy's history and heroism for all time, and the only person not interested is Buffy, who's more worried about Ubervamps than which camera angle works. To assist in his storytelling, Andrew gets out his Big White Board, an excellent visual aid in explaining the players in his story. His imagination tends to run away with him, since he envisions Buffy with the wind in her hair as she pours cereal, while a shirtless Spike canoodles with the Slayer over bran flakes. Ahem.

    As Buffy fills in the gang on her vision of the Ubervamps, Andrew reviews his "history" as "leader" of the Evil Trio. He also spies Willow and Kennedy making eyes at each other (as well as making out), which is a relief after their little tiff over Willow's magical power. Andrew is reminded of his own run-in with Dark Willow last year, and in his own mind he was easily able to deflect her powers. Sure.
    At Sunnydale High, all hell is breaking loose, literally. People are disappearing, mirrors are talking, heads are exploding. Something's building up inside the school, and it's about to blow.
    Andrew sits Anya and Xander down for a chat, and brings up the fact that today would have been their wedding anniversary. Xander's paid his dues as the bad guy, but Anya still has feelings for him. Later, the two realize they still love one another, but neither knows exactly what that means. Andrew has set up his camera to tape them clandestinely, and later, he lovingly rewinds the sappiest parts of their conversation over and over.
    Back at the school, Buffy and Wood investigate the source of the problem: the Seal. Robin gets a closer look, but he's too close, He becomes possessed momentarily, and his anger over Buffy and Spike's relationship emerges. He almost spills it about Spike having killed his mother, but he breaks out of his trance just in time.
    Spike, meanwhile, is performing his tough-guy act for Andrew in the laundry room.
    When Wood and Buffy get home, they grab Andy and demand that he help them shut down the Seal, since he's the one that opened it in the first place. But it looks like Buffy and Wood left the school too soon, because back in the Sunnydale High basement five students circle the Seal, and it starts to glow.
    Willow uses a crystal to pull out of Andrew memories of how he learned about the Seal. He flashes back to his time in Mexico with Jonathan, when he was first approached by Warren/First. Godhood was to be his reward (if you call visions of carousing and singing in a field of flowers god-like). In Mexico, Andrew located a knife somehow connected to the Seal, and used it to kill Jonathan. He stored the knife in Buffy's kitchen, and after they find it, they head for Sunnydale High.
    When Buffy, Wood, Spike and Andrew arrive, the school is a complete wreck. Fires have broken out, spray paint is everywhere, and what students remain are wreaking havoc. A mob of kids attack, and after overpowering them, Wood and Spike stay at the door to the basement to keep everyone away from the Seal. Taking advantage of the situation, Wood tries, but fails, to kill Spike.
    The Slayer attempts to get the truth out of Andrew about killing Jonathan. It’s virtually impossible, since Andrew constantly changes his story. When they arrive at the Seal, five Bringers (formerly students) await them.
    Meanwhile, at home, Anya and Xander bask in the afterglow on Spike's cot. For Anya, it seemed like "one more time," but Xander isn't so sure. Whatever he was hoping for, "one more time" isn't it.
    Buffy defeats the Bringers, but the real fight--getting Andrew speak the truth for once in his life--has just begun. The Slayer says she's learned that the blood of the one who opened the Seal will close it, and she threatens Andrew with the knife. Buffy forces him to recognize his action for what it really was: a murder, an act that he deserves to be punished for. Andrew bursts into tears, deeply regretting his crimes. A lone tear falls on the Seal, and suddenly, the Seal stops glowing. Buffy had hoped the plan would work, and doesn't answer when Andy asks what would have happened if it hadn't.
    Back home, Andrew tells his real story to the camera. He killed Jonathan, and he probably won't make it through the next fight. Maybe he doesn't deserve to. It's his most honest moment, and he shuts the camera off.

    That was quite a good episode - sometimes the comic ones don't work, but this one was quite good. andrew was really annoying me at first, but he seems to be rounding out as a character.


    Whats the deal with scary-pregnant-demon Cordeilia - I can't wait to see how that one works out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Buffy was very good last night. Andrew is a really funny character. The bit where he was looking at the video tape of Xander and Anya talking and he started mouthing all of Anya words was gas.

    But what about Angel...it f****ng rocked last night.. my god can that show get any better?? Willow fitted into that episode really well. Her and Fred really bounced off each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭gazzer


    The one thing that i have always wanted to see in Angel happened last night..
    Angel and Angelus fighting each other, it was just brilliant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Lies My Parents Told Me
    Director: David Fury
    Writer: David Fury & Drew Goddard
    New York City, 1977: It's pitch black and pouring rain when the Slayer takes on Spike, while her young son looks on from behind a bench. The fight ends in a draw, and the Slayer, Nikki, explains to her son Robin that even though he wants to stay with her, he can't. Her mission is to kill Vampires, and she must fight alone. In the present, the boy has taken on his mother's duties--killing Vamps--this time at the Slayer's side. Wood hates that Spike is also fighting at their side, but as of now, there's nothing he can do about it.

    Later, Giles and Wood are introduced, and Buffy gives the principal a quick rundown of their history with Spike, his soul, the chip and the trigger implanted by the First. Giles is concerned that the trigger is still active, and he's brought something home to help. It's a Prokaryote stone, to be implanted in Spike's brain (with Willow's magical help). The stone is sort of like therapy: it can root out the nature of the trigger by unlocking his subconscious. When it's implanted, Spike is transported back to...

    London, 1880: William recites some sappy poetry to his mother, Anne, who tenderly approves of his talent. He loves her very much, but he worries over her recent illness, which looks suspiciously like tuberculosis. After her violent coughing fit passes, Spike sits at his mother's feet as she sings a familiar tune. The tune is what the First chose as the trigger.
    In the present, Spike turns, lashing out and throwing furniture around. Giles is certain there's something more there that he's blocking, and Spike drifts back again, remembering his rebirth as a Vampire. He and Drusilla visit his home, and Dru is shocked to find that William wants to make his mother into a Vampire, so they can be together forever. "It only hurts for a moment," he whispers to Anne, as he bites into his beloved mother's neck.
    Wood takes advantage of a moment alone with the former Watcher, and convinces him that everyone would be better off with Spike dead. He needs Giles to get Buffy out of the house for a while, and Giles agrees. (Note to Giles: this is probably a bad idea.)
    Robin lures Spike to his "workroom," where the walls are covered with crosses. He claims to be about to help uncover Spike's trigger, but the Vamp realizes something's going on when Wood reveals that Spike killed his mother. Robin pulls up an mp3 of the trigger song, and against his will, Spike turns.
    He relives first seeing his mother as a Vampire, glowing with health and vitality. But something¹s changed. She's no longer the doting mother, but a bitter woman who wondered how long it would take her wimp of a son to get himself married and leave her alone. William is horrified, especially when his mother comes closer and attempts to kiss him, telling him, "You wanted your hands on me; perhaps you'd like to finish what you started?" Devastated, Spike shoves her away, and a struggle ensues. "I'm sorry," he whispers, and stakes her. For a moment, the true image of his mother looks upon her son gratefully, just before she turns to dust.
    Meanwhile, Giles is trying to convince Buffy that difficult decisions must be made in the coming battle, but Buff doesn't get it. She's been making tough choices all over the place, but he remains adamant that there's more to be done. He's priming her to accept allowing Wood to kill Spike, but it's not until later that she realizes what's going on. Immediately she takes off to save Spike.
    During the Vamp's visions, Wood's been beating Spike, but the moment his memory ends, the real Spike is back. Wood's no match for his strength and agility, and it's a rude awakening for the principal. Spike is matter-of-fact about killing Nikki: they were natural enemies, and it's not Spike's fault that eventually (however inadvertently) she abandoned her son. She was the center of Robin's world, but the center of Nikki's world was slaying Vampires, not being a mother. Wood is bitter, but Spike thanks him for clearing up the trigger. He's made his own realization: that his mother's soul had been taken over by a demon, that she truly loved him before she turned. He tells Wood he appreciates the help, then Vamps out, saying, "Just wanted you to know that, before I kill you."
    When Buffy arrives at Wood's home, she finds Spike leaving the workroom. He spared Wood, but warns, "he looks at me funny again, I'll kill him." To an injured Robin, Buffy explains that they need Spike, and if something like this happens again, she'll let Spike kill him. "The mission is what matters," she says, echoing his mother's attitude.
    Giles goes to Buffy, trying to convince her that killing Spike was for the greater good. He's still preaching when she replies, "I think you've taught me everything I need to know," and closes the door in his face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 388 ✭✭da_deadman


    Just have to say that last nights episode was really good. Cant wait for the big battle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Dr4gul4


    Just wanted to say im not gonna post any spoiler's but the End of Season 4 of angel is a very weird ending...could be a great setup 4 season 5 ...

    Have to say buffy is really boring me now i have to left and dats the season over 4 me and although it's been a twisted story it seems like there just doin it 4 the money


    D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Dirty Girls
    Director: Michael Gershman
    Writer: Drew Goddard
    A new Potential, Shannon, runs through the forest at night, chased by the Bringers. She stumbles onto a road and is rescued by a sympathetic minister type who promises to take her to Sunnydale. Shannon realizes she’s in trouble when out of nowhere the priest, Caleb, starts spouting some seriously twisted stuff about how she's a whore without a soul, and that the Bringers are his "Boys." After heating his ring with a cigarette lighter, Caleb brands her on the neck. He whispers a message to the girl to deliver to the Slayer, then stabs her and throws her out of the car. Caleb knew Willow was driving a little behind them, and Will slams on the brakes when she spots the girl lying in the road. Faith emerges from the car as well, fresh from her trip to help out Angel, and they cart Shannon off to the hospital.

    Faith is a little peeved that no one bothered to let her know Potentials were getting killed, but somehow Willow thought she'd be safer in jail. Faith wasn't: someone there came after her with a knife, and it wasn't your average prison butter knife. Faith convinces Willow to stay and watch over Shannon while she goes to meet Buffy on patrol. Should be interesting.

    In the cemetery, Faith gets into it with Spike and refuses to believe he's a good guy. They wail on each other for a while till Buffy interrupts by knocking Faith on the chin. It's business as usual between these two. They head home, and no one is exactly welcoming to Faith, least of all Dawn.
    Back at his vineyard, preacher Caleb is clearly off his nut, having a glass of wine while gabbing with the First in the guise of Buffy. He's the one behind the Bringers' hunt for Potentials and the destruction of the Watcher's Council, and plans to use Buffy's innate curiosity to lure her to him. Sounds just crazy enough to work.
    At Sunnydale High, Buffy and Principal Wood put their differences aside just before Wood fires her from her job. He doesn’t want her distracted from the mission, and no one's coming to school anymore anyway. Wood is still smarting from their last encounter, though he puts on a brave face.
    Meanwhile, Spike and Faith share a smoke and get to know each other in the basement. They both have a shadowy edge that adds a spark to their conversation. He calls her on not escaping from prison even though she knew she could, and Faith admits that for a while, she felt a little more dangerous than healthy for her or anyone else. This flirt-fest is broken up by Buffy, who doesn't look happy to see the pair lounging comfortably on Spike's bed. Fortunately, the tension is broken by a call from Willow: Shannon is awake.
    From her hospital bed, Shannon reveals her burn and delivers Caleb's message to Buffy, "I have something of yours." Buffy falls for it and decides she's got to pull her army together and find Caleb's hideout. Almost everyone disagrees with her decision, convinced the preacher is lying, but Buffy's only concession is to leave the weaker of the girls at home.
    While Xander preps the girls for the fight, Buffy and Faith return to the scene of the crime and follow a Bringer through the woods. He leads them to the vineyard, and they return home to gather the troops. Buffy overhears Xander giving a rousing speech in support of Buffy, and she's touched.
    When the group arrives at the vineyard, Buffy splits them in two sets, one to go in with her and Faith, the other to hold their ground with Xander. Inside, a huge fight with the Bringers ensues. The girls are holding their own until Caleb emerges to confront Buffy. He pretends to recognize her power, then hauls off and belts her across the room. Quickly, the fight turns even uglier when Caleb kills one girl, and the rest of them get pummeled, even after Xander brings in reinforcements.
    As they are retreating, Caleb corners Xander, asking, "You're the one who sees everything, right?" Caleb brutally gouges Xander's eye, much to everyone's horror. Spike breaks in as the preacher is about to take his second eye, and he and Buffy drag Xander away. They've escaped, but with injuries and casualties galore. Their army is decimated.
    In the hospital, Xander and some of the girls are recovering, but their spirits are low. While Caleb continues to spout his faux religious rhetoric to the First/Buffy, the real Buffy walks the streets of Sunnydale, alone.
    Whoa! Caleb is a great bad guy - if they'd introduced him earlier in the season I wouldn't have thought it as crap as I have done.

    Go Angel - nuff said!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    BTW. Did anyone notice the references to Adam and Glory in Caleb's last speech. Has Joss been thinking that far ahead in storyline.

    Is Zander now Odin? - kidding.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Originally posted by deezoid
    BTW. Did anyone notice the references to Adam and Glory in Caleb's last speech. Has Joss been thinking that far ahead in storyline.

    Yup, everything has been leading up to this. This seasons story arc was orignally started in Season 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I just read a synopsis for the buffy season finale...... it sounds flippin' epic!

    - Dave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Empty Places
    Director: James A. Contner
    Writer: Drew Z. Greenberg
    There's a mass exodus going on in Sunnydale. Everyone is loading up their cars and leaving town, including Clem, who waves goodbye to Buffy on his slow drive through the crowded streets. He's not exactly encouraging to the Slayer, recommending that it might be best if she leaves as well.

    Using a little of her magical mojo, Willow helps Giles get information from the police on connections to organizations Caleb might have in California or elsewhere. Then they head to see Xander in the hospital as he recovers from the loss of his eye. Willow is supportive, but Buffy seems guilty and troubled, and she leaves Will and Xander alone, unable to face her friend in his time of need.

    Anya and Andrew give their best (and funniest) group lesson to the girls about what they know so far, but no one is really paying attention. Everyone feels useless and doomed. Faith is playing hooky from the "lesson," and talks with Kennedy and Amanda, who echo the rest of the girls' hopelessness. Buffy makes a quick stop at home to drop off the police records for further research, but she departs almost immediately, reacting poorly to the sadness looming over the house.
    She heads for the school to pick up the last of her belongings, and the place is eerily deserted. Yearning for times gone by, she stares at an old photograph of herself, Willow and Xander from years earlier. Caleb appears at that moment to harangue her for her weakness, telling her she's going to be a part of the history that he makes. When he implies he'd go after Xander's other eye, she punches him, but Caleb springs forward and tosses her through a window. He's the one in charge, and he leaves her there alone.
    Back home, Giles recognizes Caleb's symbol in a the police photograph taken in Northern California, and somehow Spike and Andrew get elected to go search out more information. After they leave, Faith gets inspired: she takes the girls out for a night on the town.
    A battered Buffy arrives home to find the house empty of everyone except Giles. They clash again over the subject of Spike. Buffy is sure Giles sent Spike on the search, hoping he'd be killed, therefore eliminating the one person who'd been backing her. She becomes even more irritated when she learns that Faith took the girls away to let off some steam.
    At the Bronze, the Potentials have a wild time, since it appears everyone who's stayed in Sunnydale is at the bar. Faith's three-way dance party is rudely interrupted by four menacing cops, there to cart her back to jail. However, they appear to have an ulterior motive when they throw her outside and aim their guns at her. While she's fighting them off, a cop with a big gun keeps everyone inside, until Kennedy steps up and disarms him. The rest of the girls rush outside to keep Faith from being killed, and they eventually defeat the cops. Buffy arrives in a huff and sends the girls home, berating Faith for leading the "children" into danger. Faith counters that they aren't children, and that Buffy is the one who led them into danger at the vineyard, and look what happened then. Buffy slugs Faith and stalks off.
    Spike and Andrew ride a motorcycle up to Gilroy to investigate what appears to be an abandoned mission. While they're poking around, Andrew is attacked by what looks like a Bringer until his hood falls back. It's just a priest, and they grill him for information (Andrew is the bad cop, natch). He says that Caleb came to the mission in search of a plaque that even the priests didn't know existed. When he found it, his temper exploded, and he branded the priest, who ran and hid. When the man shows Spike the plaque, the Vamp translates, "It is not for thee, it is for her alone to wield."
    When Xander arrives home, everyone is there to greet him, although it's not a very cheerful crowd. Buffy comes forward and announces that she has a plan: they have to return to the vineyard and defeat Caleb. She believes he must be hiding something powerful there, since he's not coming to the Hellmouth or guarding the Seal. Every person in the room balks at the idea, each saying they won't go to the vineyard without more proof. They all share Anya's opinion that Buffy is blinded by her desire to defeat Caleb, and she can't see reason. The girls demand a democracy, and they want Faith to be in charge. Buffy refuses to believe that after seven years her friends and family can no longer trust her, and she won't stay and watch Faith lead them to their deaths. Dawn finally stands up and kisses her goodbye, answering, "Then you can't stay here."
    Buffy takes off, but Faith catches her, saying it wasn't what she wanted. Buffy understands, and tells her their lives are now in Faith's hands. Defeated, she walks off into the darkness.

    For the first time this season Buffy was much better than Amgel!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Fence


    Originally posted by bedlam
    Good old Sky,
    they managed to ruin the scene where Caleb stuck his thumb into Xanders eye, with their amazing editing skills.

    Ah but you got to see the up close and nasty version in the previously last night. They must forget to cut them.

    Cya
    Fence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭deezoid


    Nice one Mercury - I've been up to me oxters in work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Fence


    Eventually, Buffy slices Caleb in the gut, and he falls. Angel smiles and says, "At least you could tell me you're glad to see me." She steps into his arms and kisses him.

    And the world goes "Yeah, ahhh they so cute"

    kinda
    or at least the non-buffy/spike shipper world


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