€ 11,000 PC........ Droooool

PJ Hunt

SouperComputer

take a plane trip to the states, buy all your stuff, build it yourself and probably save approx 30% not to mention using two "real" processors!

SouperComputer

4got to mention you could also have a choice with your OS. Plan9, Linux, 2k ahh the options are endless

seamus

5 Years and it'll start to look old and obsolete

CivilServant

2 scuzzy drives going at full speed 24/7, grand if you're living near an airport.

ozt9vdujny3srf

bah, 11000 is a total ripoff for that machine imo

don;t go near dell

you could by a very sexeh machine on komplett, a lot sexyer tyhat that yoke, for that price (i.e. with a nice large falt panel monitor:P)

PPC

Dragon Full Tower
Intel P4 3.06
Asus P4T533
1Gb RDDram
2x 200Gb WD 7200rpm 8Mb cache
Plexcombo 20/10/40-12a CD-RW/DVD
Pioneer DVR-A04 DVD-RW
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128Mb
Koolmaxx Videocooling
SB Audigy 2 6.1 Platinum
2x NEC 20" LCD
Creative Megaworks 550
Logitech keyboard
MS intellimouse v3
Windows XP Pro

9,646.37 EUR
From Alienware.co.uk

Much nyomier if your not going to build yourself

strat

hope you dont want to play games on on that PJ

Thorbar

What motherboard did you get PJ?

Some mobos can support up to 3gigs of ram why go with only 1.5 gigs if you're going for no limits .

SouperComputer

interestingly, i couldnt find any 10k drives of that capacity @u360

did find an 18Gb 15k U160 for 70 odd dollars. yum

SouperComputer

also, i have to say I have two 10k U160 cheetahs in my system and they are remarkably quiet.....almost silent!!!!! Very impressed

the're running in SE mode (40Mb) and without RAID gave a becnhmark better that ata66 RAID!

SCSI is king man Espcially free SCSI!

SouperComputer

im meant to say no 147GB u360's @15k

DUUUHHH

CivilServant

and the moral of the story is? ... don't post in technology until you know what thermal compound, molex, northbridge, fsb, L1 Cache, solder,CAS, BGA RAM, and platter is

SouperComputer

enlighten me on bga (Ball Grid Array) ram. sounds expensive!

GoneShootin

pffft, doesnt hold anything to me BBC MASTER

Thorbar

You call that a computer? pfft THIS IS A COMPUTER!

[edit]Doh was too tired last night to remember to stick in link I hate exams[/edit]

OSiriS

we all have our dream systems ...
this is mine
http://www.sgi.com/origin/3000/overview.html
;P

CivilServant

go look it up urself

longword

Originally posted by SouperComputer
im meant to say no 147GB u360's @15k

So you get three or five 72GB drives. You'll get much better straight-line speed out of two smaller 10kRPM disks than one larger one, and of course faster again with 15k.

SouperComputer

not with a decent drive IMO

i think the big drive-small drive theory is out of date in relation to the change in thoughput. RPM and cache I has a much bigger influence. than capacity. unless the drive is just plain older tech

longword

Originally posted by SouperComputer
i think the big drive-small drive theory is out of date in relation to the change in thoughput. RPM and cache I has a much bigger influence. than capacity. unless the drive is just plain older tech

You misunderstand. There are two issues here.

1) Two small disks are faster than one big one. With current hard disk technology, drives from the same generation tend to be roughly the same speed. All else equal, a larger disk may win a little on areal density which could make it a bit faster. But if you can read 50MBytes/sec from each of two disks at the same time, that's still going to be faster than one larger disk that can alone do 60MBytes/sec.

2) The original suggestion to use smaller disks springs from the fact that the large disks in the quoted specification are "only" 10kRPM and no drives in that capacity range seem to spin faster. However disks half the size at 15kRPM are available. But even if they were 10kRPM you'll still get more out of the two half size drives (including more noise if that's an concern) than from the single large disk. You lose less capacity to redundancy when you switch on RAID5 too.

SouperComputer

so basically your talking about RAID. i was comparing two drives in a standard config

but now i know wot ur talking bout. lota people judge speed by capacity, but what can ye do eh :rockband:

Kali

Ahh for 3D design work, and rotating, panning, zooming of objects.

http://www.mindflux.com.au/products/spacetec/4000flx.html

longword

Originally posted by SouperComputer
so basically your talking about RAID. i was comparing two drives in a standard config

Spend €11,000 and not have RAID? That's worse than having only one CPU!

PJ Hunt

As I said this was just some idle time spent on the dell site.


If I was spending 11 grand I'd be spending it on :

Monitor size

Graphics handeling

HD Speed

Memory

Oh and one of these

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> Yep

Regards
PJ

PJ Hunt

Originally posted by CivilServant
and the moral of the story is? ... don't post in technology until you know what thermal compound, molex, northbridge, fsb, L1 Cache, solder,CAS, BGA RAM, and platter is

Excuuuuuse Us !

Yavvy

You could always Use Fiber channel Drives get your self a 2GB HBA and 73GB 15K drives at about 800mb/s performance both directions niceeeeeeeeee

if your getting involved with RAID ...which you should
using a mirror gives you excellent read times and slightly slower write times plus it offers the highest redundancy

I noticed on the dell quote talk of a USB key ring..thats laughable
LTO2 which offers 200-400 GB and up to 60mb/s transfer rate

Fujitsu have fairly cheep FC drives....I would love too hear about someone that uses FC in their PC or Server for that matter.

only ever seen FC in a SAN or hugh RAID array