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Starting a diesel

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  • 01-02-2003 1:44am
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭


    Can anyone tell me the correct way to start a cold diesel that doesn't have glow plugs?
    It's a 2.5 transit.

    Thanks.:confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭JabbaTheHut


    There's no pre-ignition chamber in a Direct Injection engine like the sort of one you're talking about,so it's just a matter of turning the key.Unless you have a different problem there


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭Neil_Sedaka


    Hi Jabba,

    it can be hard to start sometimes when cold, I suppose the question is really, to rev or not to rev whilst cranking?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭JabbaTheHut


    Pressing the accelerator when cranking won't make any difference to it.It has an "excess diesel" valve on the injector pump that operates when the engine is cold.It acts like a choke on a petrol carb.
    Mind you,when it does start,reving it hard from cold would not do it good.Better to take it easy on it for the first few minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    What are "glow plugs" then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Originally posted by sceptre
    What are "glow plugs" then?
    diesel engines usually heat the fule b4 starting, eg meh fathers van on cold day a light comes on when he turns the key, after a while it goes off and the van starts.


    ... i think that's what it is anyway! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭Neil_Sedaka


    Originally posted by azezil
    diesel engines usually heat the fule b4 starting, eg meh fathers van on cold day a light comes on when he turns the key, after a while it goes off and the van starts.


    ... i think that's what it is anyway! :)


    That is correct azezil, there's no "spark" in a Diesel engine, so the fuel ignites purely from high compression, warm fuel will ignite easier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    diesel engines usually heat the fule b4 starting, eg meh fathers van on cold day a light comes on when he turns the key, after a while it goes off and the van starts

    Erm, not quite - glow plugs heat the engine block so that engine will start more easily from cold - the diesel engine depends on the heat generated in the cylinder due to the compression of the air in it. If the block is cold, it'll draw away the heat the fuel needs in order to ignite. The glow plugs heat up the block around the cylinder head so that there is enough heat there for the fuel to ignite and start the engine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SouperComputer


    well kinda, the reason for a choke in a petrol car is the same as glow plugs on a diesel.

    The fuel condenses on the cold cylinder walls and thus is no longer "atomised" and therefore it is harder to burn each molecule as it is not surrounded by air.

    So, heat the walls, or richen the mixture!


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