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Activism part 2
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03-09-2001 1:06pm#1Join Date:Posts: 29920
Wow, I really shouldnt have listened to RATM last night
Here's another idea.
Humour.
I can tell you one thing that marketing companies are ALL trying to recreate is that illusive viral-marketing thing. You know, like ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!
You can tell they'd love to have ALL YOUR TOYOTA CARS BELONG TO US go around the net with such speed.
Of course they cant because its advertising and they get no good will (besides, anything like that is always contrieved and rarely funny anyway).
These things are called Market Vectors, ie: a vehicle which you use to get your message to the marketplace. (look at the current spoof one for Hagen Daaz, www.pathtojoy.org).
What I'm suggesting is use comedy/humour to get our message around the place.
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Thats the general idea, now comes DeV's suggestion for what might work...
There is a current thing for flash games. They're very handy for animation and for delivering a message.
I suggest we put the four main players (Mary O'Rourke, Eircom, Etain Doyle, and Esat) ,animated in a southpark fashion, in a scene like contestants of a gameshow. Lets call it "Dodge The Question!"
On a panel on the right you ask a series of multiple choice questions, each with an answer of Government, Eircom, ODTR, Esat
Sample questions could be like:
"Who is currently suing the ODTR?"
If the person answers Eircom... the Eircom figure gets a weight dropped on it, or attacked by chainsaw or whatever and then returns unharmed (to show we dont REALLY want to hack them to death with chainsaws, ... well MOST of us dont.)
If they answer the question wrong then Eircom get a point for Dodging The Question!
We've some talented programmers and animators on boards alone, and something like this would both be a vehicle for education and a pointed message to those involved.
The questions and answers could be pulled from a centralised file online (I have this tech already) to ensure they are kept accurate and up to date. It might seem like a lot of work but I dont think it would be to be honest. Certainly not if 4 or 5 people got behind it.
Thoughts?
DeV.
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... oh ... as was pointed out to me at the seminar, Flash movies take an age to load on the slow Internet connections that we're all pissed off with... large games in particular.
Only badly design Flash movies Bard.
(The guy who pointed this out to me was talking about the intro flash anim that I had on our web site, which I've since replaced by one half it's size).
With a 15 second redirect. I don't get it.
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Only badly design Flash movies Bard.
er... I said "large games in particular" - by large, I meant large in file size. Any large file will take ages to download over a slow connection and while Flash is well known for it's relatively small file sizes, it's also known for being larger and slower to download than a standard HTML site, - especially on the type of Internet connections we get via dialup in Ireland.
With a 15 second redirect. I don't get it.
I have to do a redirect anyway as the site isn't hosted on the server that the irelandoffline.com domain points at. The reason it's 15 seconds is to allow time for the animation that is on the redirect page to be read. People can always click the link to continue if necessary.
If enough people think it's cumbersome, I'll just zap all that and put an instant redirect on it.
Bard
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Sooner or later we are going to have to get tough with the people who are supposedly on our side.
They are in our way and they really do have to be part of the solution rather then part of the problem.
ODTR should either get involved or get out of the ring. They are currently a time-sink and a distraction.
Mary O'Rourke may wring her hands and say theres nothing she can do... in which case I need to campaign for someone from Phylum Vertebrae.
Sorry, but a point will come where by we cant make the omlette without break some eggs and losing some friends.
This is why I aint involved with IOFFL directly because they will have to think about *when* a contact is more of a liability then a benefit and when to go over their heads, play hardball etc etc...
I dont much care who I p|ss off to be honest and I'm beginning to favour a direct approach.
Lets see how Sept goes but after that its open warfare in my mind... because I want DSL in my X-mas box
DeV.
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DeV., Naughty, Naughty Too Much Gorilla Radio for you
The flash idea may be good for a bit of piss takin alrite just as long we dont it make libelous.
I attempted something along that lines a few weeks back but it was a bit of a 5 min job
Its located here...
http://www.irishtimes.f2s.com/ioffline/ioffline.html
Its also located on this thread....
http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000160.html
I've been thinking about following it up but time etc. doesn't permit.
I just got Flash 5 myself & its pretty addictive re: doing stuff like that w/ cartoon charachetures etc.
Niall has plans for a screensaver which also could incorporate a bit of mickey taking if so desired
80p.
SAVE CHIP !!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 80project.com:
Niall has plans for a screensaver which also could incorporate a bit of mickey taking if so desired
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To be honest- I think I should throw it open to you lot as a competition of sorts...
Create a screensaver and send it to me (making sure that it's SMALL in file size- Internet access is not fast or cheap you know... there's a campaign to get that sorted out though, - it's called... whoops... I'm rambling )
Best screensaver (or maybe 2!) becomes the "official" IOFFL one and goes on our web site for download, along with a credit for the creator.
Please don't put them on the web and post URL's - just email me the screensavers (or URL's to them).
Bard
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Dunno about whether it should be flash or not - best to produce a standalone ".scr" file for Windows ( feel free to send us Mac ones too... I'll get Elana to try 'em out ).
Logos that should be used? ... anything from our web site is game there but try to make sure that you make use of our own main logo:
and preferably the snail also:
Re: colour scheme- try to stick to that of the web site... i.e.: black, white, green, yellow and grey.
And most importantly: file size - keep it as low as possible - preferably less than 0.5 Mb.
Bard
'First motorbike in the bible ???? ---- a Triumph --- 'Yea verily Moses struck down the ammmanites and all the land heard the roar of his triumph !!!'
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DeVore:
Here's another idea.
Humour.
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na m8, stick with your other idea...
Hit em hard by embarrising the $hit out of em !! like what microsoft did 3 years ago Did ya see how fast the government reacted to such a public slagging off !!
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