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Max Payne
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Absolutely amazing looking. I'm going to be playing that non-stop as soon as one of the cafe's (Netshop or DnC) get copies in... Nyomnyom...
The only thing I don't like is the way Payne is always smiling in that gayish way.
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Just finished it a few minutes ago.
My opinoin hasn't changed much, it's utterly impossible to kill the tougher enemies without your trusty Bullet-Time.
Like Kaz, I doubt it's replayability.
Some jokes thrown in for good measure, one in particular had me in stiches
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Naaa, I wouldn't say it's impossible to kill the tougher bosses. Bullet time makes them easier to deal with but you can outsmart the AI. The hit and hide tactic works well against most baddies. I remember the guy at the end of the car park was tough. When he first appears he'll throw grenades at you and then use dual Ingram. So just run up to him and unload a full magazine of jackhammer ammo into him as soon as you see him (only tried that cause he kept on killing me<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Fidelis:
Just finished it a few minutes ago.
My opinoin hasn't changed much, it's utterly impossible to kill the tougher enemies without your trusty Bullet-Time.
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I'd say I must be at the end pretty soon.
But its a really great game, its a pity that you cant reload the scenarios...
You know like the way you can go back and play the comic book bits,well you should be able to play on from there,cos there are some pretty cool fights...
I liked the trippy valkyr bit too, "I'm in a graphic novel...I'm in a computer game..."
That was cool
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I really should get the demo sooner or later.
One thing thats annoying me, The Matrix did not invent 'bullet time'. Time Slice (to give it its 'industy' name , man) has been around for years, i first saw it in a commercial in 91 i think. Remember the Stones video for 'Like a rolling stone'? Matrix me granny 0 -
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its a remarkable incident that the icon which was used on bulletin boards all around the world would be adopted by a game company as their main character, and that the game is absolutely fantastic.
same goes with this little fella
(duke nukem 3d) and this one too 
(some game called quake?!?). the conspiracy theory is born (or am i just bored out of my títs?)
adnans
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Didn't notice that but you do stop shooting while Max is getting back up. This could be what you're noticing. Or maybe there really is a bug though I understand this is one of the most bug free game around.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bonkey:
Bullet-time is wicked, but has anyone else noticed that when moving from bullet time back to normal time (most notably after doing a shootdodge move) your guns either stay firing slowly for a fraction of a second, or stop altogether. Minor niggle, but there you go.</font>
As for length of the game. It's not that short. I think people are just comparing it to the length of time they can waste playing an online game. For a single player game, the length is about right.
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Max payne is nice 2 look and and a joy 2 play. A very nicly rounded and enjoyable game..... HOWEVER let be honest here. The game as a whole was completely linear with notthing but level after level of straight out shooting with no secrects or extra whats so ever. Ill agree thats it was nice enjoyable game but way 2 easy and 2 short 2 complete!!! Also this game is only the tip of the ice berg as far as next generation of games is concerned. I believe that there are many more games 2 come out in the next year that will change the way we think about avergae computer games both graphicly and game play wise. Planet side for 1 will be a game that will change the way we think of multiplay games for ever (if not planet side one of its conter parts). Simple matter of the fact is that when we look back at MAx Payne in a years time we will see it as a good game but not realy anything all the special, granted it the first of what i see as the next generation but not the best by any means of whats 2 come 0
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Hmm have to disagree with you there wolf, the game has set a new standard for those that have to follow it...which dose make it special indeed
Insanity is spreading like wildfire.......and Im at its center
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by [-UK-]Wolf:
The game as a whole was completely linear with notthing but level after level of straight out shooting with no secrects or extra whats so ever. </font>
The problem here is that non-linear shoot-em-ups tend to either become missionless blast-fests, or games which are so large and sprawling that people are wondering where to go next, what to do, and so on.
I'm sure someone with more varied gaming experience can fill me in, but I cant think of a single non-linear fps or tps game which was playable, and had a storyline.
OK, it doesnt have much in the way of puzzles to solve, but lets face it, its a tribute to John Woo movies....how complex do you want it to be?
I'm not sure I agree with you, but either way, this is a moot point. What you are saying is aking to saying that the current top-end, state-of-the-art, uber-pc is nothing special, because technology is coming out in the next year which will make it look positively ordinary.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
Also this game is only the tip of the ice berg as far as next generation of games is concerned. I believe that there are many more games 2 come out in the next year that will change the way we think about avergae computer games both graphicly and game play wise.
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So what?
Max Payne is out today. Today, it is (IMHO) the coolest-looking TPS game I've ever seen. It has introduced some excellent new features into gaming (and brought back some old ones), and is pretty solid all round.
As the state of play stands today, it is a good game by any standard. If you think its too easy, I assume you've finished it on all difficulty levels? As to its length, how can you complain that its a linear shoot-fest and then complain about it being too short. If its just a linear shoot-fest then there's no difference in restarting, loading a saved game from the middle, or having a few extra levels.
I remember hearing something similar said about a little game a few years back which enjoyed a bit of popularity at the time. What was it called? Oh yeah - Halflife.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
Simple matter of the fact is that when we look back at MAx Payne in a years time we will see it as a good game but not realy anything all the special, granted it the first of what i see as the next generation but not the best by any means of whats 2 come</font>
Vaporware does not have any effect on the gaming industry. I have lost track of the number of games which were hyped up as changing the way we think about gaming. To date, I've seen very few which delivered. For every Max Payne, there are a dozen (or a hundred) Daikatana's.
As for being the first of a new generation....Wolfenstein and Halflife were also classed as the same. They have been surpassed in their respective fields, but you ask someone for the big names in FPS games, you will get :
Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake, HalfLife. Perhaps Unreal.
Each of these, in their own way, raised the bar and set the standard. You will not hear of the clones of each which may have been slightly prettier, or cleverer but which offered nothing new.
By current standards Max Payne is one of the best shooters to come out to date. You may disagree with that, but you cannot deny that it has a superb game engine, great mechanics, and supplies a new bar visually for other games to match. It has introduced new features such as bullet time, and (I think they are the first here) intelligent difficulty adaption.
Will it be a classic? I dont know. But whether or not it becomes one does not affect how good it is by todays standards.
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OK OK what i said was ill explained and perhaps abiot brief but many ppl would say the half-life was over rated in the first place (im not one of them however) but the point im trying 2 make is just because max payne is out first doesnt neccessaryly mean that it is the finest thing since sliced bread. I strongly believe that we will see games simalar 2 max payme but surpassing max payne and easy example is the new duke nukem which looks amazing. An easy example i can give u is the when duke nukem 3d came out it was fantastic but a few other companies weren't rushed into throwing some thing out 2 compete instead they took there time and produced games the like of half-life and unreal!!!!! which are the real deffining games!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! yes? no? well reguardless i just believe any game that take but a few days 2 somplete with no hidden extras is all it could be and there are games coming that will match and surpass max payne. ALSO I LOVED PLAYING MAX PAYNE im not dissing it im just saying lets be realistic
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<-- is this icon MaxPayne or is it Tanner from Driver?
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