PS2 discs

Penfolds

Is it possible to backup my PS2 games ?
I've tried to see whats on the Cd by browsing iton my PC but W2K doesn't recognise it as a valid Cd. I tokk a look at the back of the Cd and notice it has the PS2 logo in hologram all over the back........does this prevent it being read properly ??

Dont be at yourself

Aren't pirates in Japan spreading the games across a number of CDs instead of using a DVD?

Anyway, it can't be as bad as the GameCube

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Even though I was their captive, the Indians allowed me quite a bit of freedom. I could walk freely, make my own meals, and even hurl large rocks at their heads. It was only later that I discovered that they were not Indians at all but only dirty-clothes hampers.

Jimi-Spandex

Latest Prices for DVD-RW Drive

£575 Stg + VAT

Latest Prices for blank dvds

DVD-R: £11 Stg +VAT
DVD-RW: £16 Stg +VAT

Not a viable pirating option, oh sorry backup option for a few years anyway. Thank Christ, people who feel they shouldn't have to pay for new games are scum anyway (Sorry if i insulted you it is my opinion).

I'd say it would require some smart ass pirates to spread a game intended for dvd across seperate cds

chernobyl

yup, you can backup your PS2 games on cd as most of the game content is only 700MB in size.
you have to drop the audio and replace it with files of "samename and format" but these are 0KB and the same with the movies.

yeah, most pirate PS2 stuff is on cd rom as there are no mass DVD copying devices available on the highstreet.

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Ashley Lyn

Ashley Lyn Cafagna

Atomic Pineapple

YES! people who buy pirated software a cheap skate scumbags

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«Donal|R

OConnor

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by draffodx:
YES! people who buy pirated software a cheap skate scumbags
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*Cough*
and the people who *make* pirated software are very Fu<king rich

Piracy sux

Dont be at yourself

Yes, but then again so does over-priced games.

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Even though I was their captive, the Indians allowed me quite a bit of freedom. I could walk freely, make my own meals, and even hurl large rocks at their heads. It was only later that I discovered that they were not Indians at all but only dirty-clothes hampers.

Shinji

For a start, a lot of PS2 games are DVDs, not CDs, so you can't copy them without a DVD copying system - which are bloody expensive.

Even copying the normal PS2 discs requires specialist know-how. And then you'll need some additional equipment to get the little buggers to work on your PS2.

So the short answer is yes, it can be done. The long answer is yes, it can be done, but it's a lot of effort and cost.

Jabba_the_SLUT

[edit] i c i have cause some friction so ill take em down [edit]

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Shinji

It's not the same process, because most games are on DVDs not CDs. How hard can this possibly be to understand?

Also - your "mate" is a scumbag.

Atomic Pineapple

Yes your mate is a scumbag , right this moment an organised hitman should be put a bullet in his head from a drugonov around 6miles away..........sweet!
<the above is what should happen , in a perfect world>

no games arent over priced £50 for a game that cost millions to produce is acceptable to me.

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[This message has been edited by draffodx (edited 19-08-2001).]

Dont be at yourself

Games don't cost billions to make. Looking at some titles, you'd wonder if any money was spent on them at all. A DVD costs £20, and even a modestly budgeted film costs far mroe to make than the likes of Shunmue

£50 for a game is ridiculous, no matter how the good game is. Gaming cannot really expect to rival the film and music industries unless it makes gaming affordable to the mass market.

ELSPA figures have even showed that if the price of games is decreased, will increase sales, expand the game market and lead to increased revenues.

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Even though I was their captive, the Indians allowed me quite a bit of freedom. I could walk freely, make my own meals, and even hurl large rocks at their heads. It was only later that I discovered that they were not Indians at all but only dirty-clothes hampers.

Jabba_the_SLUT

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amp

And yet he pirates. Shinji is totally wrong. Your mate is a complete wánker. You lose a karma point for being annoying.

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Lunacy Abounds! GLminesweeper RO><ORS!
"Boxes for show, Baskets for a pro" - [FCA]SyxPak

Jabba_the_SLUT

shinji, amp im sorry i sed anything

orangerooster

Yeah pirates are right *******s the reason why games cost so much is 1because games companys are ****ers ,and, 2(the lie)pirate games buying is makng publishers raise the price to get real profits on games.But piracy still sucks big fat **** so kids dont buy of anto or steo or hatever knacker you meet.(i used puntuation!)

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dont open ... that door- resident evil 1

Jabba_the_SLUT

lol

amp

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jabba_the_SLUT:
shinji, amp im sorry i sed anything</font>

Fair play, karma given back. Move along, nothing to see here.

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Lunacy Abounds! GLminesweeper RO><ORS!
"Boxes for show, Baskets for a pro" - [FCA]SyxPak

amp

Plus I suppose I should give my €.02 on the topic in question.

For some games I am more than happy to fork out £50 because they give me a lot of entertainment. I paid £30 for Q3 and it just keeps on giving. Plus it's very pretty.

It is possible to get ripped off or even recognise that's it's a good game but just not your type (i.e. B&W) and that's why reviews and word of mouth are so important.

To summarise: if a game gives you months of joy why not pay the money?

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Lunacy Abounds! GLminesweeper RO><ORS!
"Boxes for show, Baskets for a pro" - [FCA]SyxPak

Xterminator

I just like to say i usually wait till a game comes out on budget title.

They seem to be coming out faster and faster with 'newish' games on the budget lables.

Also these budget games ofter have all the patches built in, that have to be released when they find a bug.(eg CM3, Halflife etc.)

Guess I'm just a tight git that doesn't want to spend £50 on a game.

yossarin

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NekkidBibleMan:

...Gaming cannot really expect to rival the film and music industries unless it makes gaming affordable to the mass market...

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games do rival film and music in terms of revenue - games are bigger than both
games industry estimated @ $50bn in 2001:
http://www.consoledomain.com/news/4991.html
quotes for film are around the $6 billion mark:
http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,12701,FF.html

Dont be at yourself

Yes, I know the games industry is worth more. It cannot rival them however in social acceptance, market size or popularity, and it won't do so unless prices drop.

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Even though I was their captive, the Indians allowed me quite a bit of freedom. I could walk freely, make my own meals, and even hurl large rocks at their heads. It was only later that I discovered that they were not Indians at all but only dirty-clothes hampers.