Pics I drew for NCAD portfolio...crits plz...

Da_Kid

I'm expecting a stupid letter in Mid-March tellin me why I didn't make it in to the NCAD, but just wanted to post a few of my smaller, unfinished pics up here and see what you thought...

YOU HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE THESE LINKS...

www.geocities.com/dark_art2003/archives/arabb.gif
This pic is huge and has loads of contrasting faces in it....it was too big for my scanner tho and I could only fit in one face...

www.geocities.com/dark_art2003/archives/aarrghb.gif
This is unfinished and was also too big for my piece of $hit scanner...look at it anyway tho :rolleyes:

www.geocities.com/dark_art2003/archives/unfinishedpitt.gif
This is only half-done and yada yada yada just look at it...

www.geocities.com/dark_art2003/archives/maskb.gif
Unfinished...blah...blah...blah......

Whatcha think?

PiE

Getting a "This page is not available" message from the links.

Don't think Geocities allows you to link directly to images, try putting them in a basic HTML page. Or use a different host (you probably have free webspace from your ISP, try that).

Da_Kid

Just copy the links and paste them in the address bar, they work fine...

Samba

Or laternatviely you can right lick and save target as.....


Man, some sweet work, I particulary liked the first pencil drawing.

Da_Kid

thanks, any comments from anyone who has experience with portfolios would be appreciated

Monkey

NCAD want you to draw from real-life not photos or your head and I think the bigger the better. They also claim to want to show some sort of line of investigation not just pictures of things.

"What is being sought is an ability to draw and develop ideas from observation together with creative work that shows visual awareness."


Make sure you apply to DIT and Dun laoghaire as well.

Figment

WOW. These should be in.

innisfree

I have plenty of experience with portfolio's and art college applications.

Your pictures show a good skill in understanding the human face though are quite stylised. There is a definite level of skill present. I'm afraid this goes nowhere to impressing them on its own, it's not what they want and I've seen fantastic draughtsmanship get turned down.
As long as those pictures are not one-off's, as in they are a continual visual investigation into an area you're interested in you should have no problems getting in. You have the technical abilities. I hope you included plenty of observational work too as imagintion based work can only show so much of your abilities. It can also be a danger to stray too far from observation at such an early stage in developing as an artist.
I must emphasise the visual exploration though, they're big on that, understandably. You have a very stylised technique as I said, my only concerns would be that you would be perhaps more unwilling to completely unlearn that technique and experiment with others as other students may be.

You obviously enjoy the work and I wish you the best of luck with your application. Do apply to the other colleges.

wiensta

nice rendering.
id concentrate less on the details& texture and more on things like volume and depth . Thats your foundation.

your obviously talented enough to get into NCAD (imo), your problem might just be what your presenting...

are you into graffiti??

post some more stuff, id like to see some sketches..

ill post some of my stuff now (im also heading to art college, dun laoghaire is no.1 tho)

-dave

karma kabbage

Originally posted by Da_Kid
I'm expecting a stupid letter in Mid-March tellin me why I didn't make it in to the NCAD, but just wanted to post a few of my smaller, unfinished pics up here and see what you thought...

i actually couldn't bear to look at your pics. I applied to the same course and am now awaiting the same stupid letter. How are your nerves? did you apply to any other places?

what bothers me is that i know they are looking for a process of thought and a display of the way an 'artist' thinks through their ideas...but how can one person recognise anothers thought prrocesses?!? how can they see my line of thinking based on my collection of drawings sketches 3-d thingies etc

so basically if we don't develop our ideas in an apparently similar manner to those looking at our portfolios....we won't get it!?!

innisfree

Originally posted by karma kabbage
but how can one person recognise anothers thought prrocesses?!? how can they see my line of thinking based on my collection of drawings sketches 3-d thingies etc

That's a skill they're looking for. If you visually investigated an area thoroughly enough it should be very apparent what your thought processes were. If you just dabble in certain themes it more than likely won't and they don't want that. This is a point that comes up in some of the colleges portfolio requirement briefs that they distribute. Good luck anyway.

Da_Kid

Yeah...I'm pretty much expecting a rejection. tbh I only found out about this course three months before the portfolio deadline. So I only had 3 months to do what others did in 2 years...plus I don't do art in school or anythin and didn't do any portfolio course or anything. There's a lot in my portfolio though, it's big....there's also loads of websites I've done included. There is a theme runnin through my pics...it wasn't intentional but there's definately a 'development of ideas'...

Anyways if I don't make it I'm gonna do the same course in DIT for a year and try again for the NCAD course next year...transfer or whatever if I make it...

karma kabbage

is it this week were're supposed to be getting the dreaded letters?

Raife

Hey Da Kid, You've got alot of talent and I hope you get in although you may not get in due to your original thinking, If you did some boring pure observational work with graffiti as your focus but graffiti drawn into your observational drawings of building's etc... they may recognise your obvious originality and skill.

I can do observational work, still life, life drawing with the best of them if I'm enjoying it but I never liked the way you have to conform to their methods, in school anyway.

I'm currently repeating my leaving cert as I failed it last time and am slowly improving my skill on my own, but am taking opinions from my new art teacher on drawing of the academic standard so I can understand that maybe a little bit better, but I've always drawn my own way.

Oh yeah I got a C1 in my LC last year, mainly cause I just did'nt in anyway push my self, also cause lino and the written exam is a beach, I would'nt destroy the essence of the drawing on my lino to get a higher mark.

Art is emotion, Its the visual representation of an Artists emotions and thoughts and has been destroyed by the comercialism of unoriginal Drawers.

I call them drawers, because they have yet or are unable to have an original thought of their own and take others and twist them so that they seem new.

And that true artists are people who above all else do what makes them happy, but may sometimes be forced due to lack of money to do otherwise.

They are original thinkers in all respects and philosophers, and have fully pushed their skill to its full understanding and are driven by their Hearts and their minds.

Academia tends to dissolve all that due to deadlines but it may help a few.

BTW this is the first post I've done here in a year which I truly felt strong about.

I'm am in no way bad mouthing those of you in Art college, I'm just staing my views as a Creative Mind that school and Academia does not push for creativity but for a more mechanical sense of Art, But if that works for you and helps you find your hidden self then I'm pleased, but there are others who are not quite so happy with it all.

I'm Sorry If I offended anyone in this post as it was not my true intention, as it were just to get my views across. I'm sorry for going too off topic.

GoodBye!

karma kabbage

actually it is somewhat reassuring to see there are people out there who still give a toss about what it is they're supposed to feel passionate about. people are always so afraid to involve passion in anything they do nowadays. it's refreshing to see some for once

Raife

Thanks Karma Kabbage!

Its nice to see a possitive reply to my post, I hope you get in to your college of choice.

Goodluck to you and those others who are awaiting a reply.

Keep It Cool!

RicardoSmith

I liked the first one but not the others. But art is all about personal taste (unfortunately) and your stuff is a lot better than the stuff I got into NCAD with. I had a bunch of biro doodles and stuff ripped from the covers of my school books and exercise books etc. It was on lined paper and everything.

A bunch of us did art outside of school hours and we had this excellent tutor. He said that presentation was important and showed us how to mount everything so it looked a lot better. He also got us doing some exercises in the various skills like perspective, life drawing, illustration and graphic design and using other mediums like paint, ink and pastels etc. stuff like that, which I think helped an awful lot. Looking back all my stuff seems very crude now, I must scan some of it in sometime.

Which courses are you guys appying for? I got in the second time I applied, with pretty much the same portfolio I had the first time, go figure.

Great parties in NCAD. Wish I could remember them

Good luck with the applications though. If you don't get in this year apply again next year, persistance will pay off.

Monkey

Art is emotion, Its the visual representation of an Artists emotions and thoughts and has been destroyed by the comercialism of unoriginal Drawers.

- art doesn't have to have anything to do with emotion

I call them drawers, because they have yet or are unable to have an original thought of their own and take others and twist them so that they seem new.

And that true artists are people who above all else do what makes them happy, but may sometimes be forced due to lack of money to do otherwise.

And art doesnt necessarily make an artist happy.

Dakid don't think DIT's Fine art course can just be strooled into and it's not just an inferior alternative to NCAD. I do the course. I originally wanted to go to NCAD but didn't get in. But know that I'm here and having taked to first years in NCAD I'm gald I ended up at DIT.

RicardoSmith

Basically art can be anything.

Personally I think that the art courses in the UK are a lot better than the ones here. They are better regarded aswell if thats important to you. I'd urge you to do you digging and find out where the best courses are and not just limit yourself to course in ireland.

karma kabbage

art is everything and nothing. like beauty, it's completely in the eye of the beholder. as such one persons art would not be anothers and visa versa. it's so broad and open to interpretation, not a tangible entity. as ricardosmith said it can be anything

Silent Grape

wow what an interesting thread!

im not quite in the same predicament as others. im in first year in UCD doing arts. im dropping out and doing a portfolio course in Bray . id like to get into NCAD but more than likely i wont get in and hopefully hopeully ill get into Dunlaoirghre.

i have no expertise on what is required for NCAD ut your drawing skillis stunning. God ive got a hard year ahead of me!

mia x

milkycoffey

did you get through?

.Longshanks.

Sanitarium

Yea, tell us. The suspense has been killing us for the past 7 years. ;-)

milkycoffey

haha! didn't even see it had run out!
sure he must be running IMMA now and everything.

anne1992

im still having troubling accessing these photos and i would really like to see them as i applied for ncad this year. any other alternatives to viewing them?

Jessibelle

anne1992 wrote: »

im still having troubling accessing these photos and i would really like to see them as i applied for ncad this year. any other alternatives to viewing them?

Anne1992, the OP hasn't posted in this thread since 2003, and the links are to geocities, which isn't in existence anymore. I'm not sure if there's much more you can do in this thread, maybe try the arts design forum?

5uspect

The Second Coming?

sNarah

Anne, what Jessibelle said is absolutely correct.

I'm closing this thread as I believe very little can be added to it.
Anne - if you are looking for feedback on your portfolio, feel free to start a thread of your own.

If anyone has a reason as to why this thread should be reopened, feel free to PM me.