BBC FTA Tests

johnnyq

BBC ONE CB is broadcasting unencrypted through other channels

AT LAST !!

parasite

/runs downstairs/

DMC

/me rings people.

DMC

Johnnyq, is this on your Irish sub card? Just to confirm please?

johnnyq

BBC ONE east is broadcasting through it . Look East is on now:)

johnnyq

It is on the Irish card A mistake I assume

johnnyq

in fact it has been unencrypted all day , could only get to the computer now

Mossy Monk

i can't get to my digibox at the moment. is it actually FTA or just available on an Irish card

parasite

hmmm ..i think i have obsolete frequencies

what are the latest ones ? ...don't want to browse through the other mammoth threads ...

DMC

All here on Lyngsat

Lennoxschips

I checked on Lyngsat, but I can't seem to find the BBC One "CB" when I add any of those frequencies.

parasite

umm i've updated all the frequencies, but i'm still getting 08 errors on all the channels
harrummpphhhh

byte

I cannot find BBC ONE CB either! And all the regions I have stored give me 08 message using a Scots card.

carrolls

The picture quality on BBC ONE CB is excellent compared to BBC1 NI, absolutely no pixelation or artefacts. Never seen it so good on BBC1.

skydigiman

10847 V
tp 50

SR 22000
FEC 5/6

Charles Slane

Yep BBC ONE CB is viewable on 10847 V 22000 FEC 5/6.

This was originally where the BBCi stuff was located, so it still carries the "This Is BBC Interactive" banner. This may also explain why we can see it and BBC ONE CI (which is only broadcasting a black screen).

By the way Damo, should this be merged with the FTA tests thread ?

DMC

It is now... I was waiting to see if the thread had legs before deciding what to do with it. Its up, running and merged.

Lennoxschips

Ok, tuned in BBC One CB earlier this afternoon through other channels.

I get an "01 - Please insert your card" message without a card and "07 - This is the wrong card for this STB" with an unmarried expired uk sub card.

I guess I'll have to wait untill July 10 then!

Charles Slane

I presume we can see it on an Irish sub because it used to be where BBCi was and we can see BBCi's services (except for the odd time when they block something for no apparent reason - like Wimbledon).

I've also read that they'll be going completely FTA from the 14th July (instead of the 10th, as previously reported), although this remains to be seen.

Richard

I didn't see Look East at 6.30 last night, but I caught it at 10.25 and at Breakfast this morning.

The one last night was definately the western half of the East Region going by the weather map, but I'm not sure whether this morning's was, or whether it covered the whole East region.

The weather graphic didn't show a map, so I'm not sure but I think the studio looked slightly different.

johnnyq

BBC ONE CB IS NOW ENCRYPTED @ 18:30

Mossy Monk

not to worry. that and many more will be available from Thursday

i liked Look East when i watched it last week

rcunning03

excuse ignorance but what is bbc cb

thanks

watty

Might be CamBridge

BBC use load of two letter abbrieviations for studio/centres. I knew some of them a long time ago.

Only some work like Irish Car Number Plates:
LN = London

But
OX = Oxford

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by watty
Only some work like Irish Car Number Plates:
LN = London

But
OX = Oxford

there is Wexford which uses WX. Waterford County has WD so OX = Oxford can be said to be like the Irish Car Number Plates

Sin e an Fear

not to worry. that and many more will be available from Thursday [/B]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/spotlight/channel_islands.shtml

Bit un PC of the Beeb to call the Channel Islands part of England, as it's not even part of the UK!

Sin e an Fear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/spotlight/channel_islands.shtml

spuddy

Originally posted by Mossy Monk
there is Wexford which uses WX. Waterford County has WD so OX = Oxford can be said to be like the Irish Car Number Plates

I thought W was for Waterford, I'm sure I've seen W with phortláirge written above it

byte

Not sure but WD is definitely Waterford Port Lairge unless it's been changed to just W. I have seen cars with W regs.

Anway, we're veering OT :rolleyes:

Mossy Monk

to put an end to this

W = Waterford City
WD = Waterford County

24 hours to free BBC yay

rcunning03

Bit un PC of the Beeb to call the Channel Islands part of England, as it's not even part of the UK!

---

so what are they then ?

dmeehan

a crown dependency

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/je.html
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gk.html

Darby OGill

Number plates and sovereign states
This forum really educates

watty

IOM is something odd too.
Cornwall isn't part of of England, though in the UK and part of Great Britian.

Richard

Originally posted by watty
IOM is something odd too.
Cornwall isn't part of of England, though in the UK and part of Great Britian.

My understanding is that this is a bit of an urban myth due to the fact that although it was never formally made part of England, it is considered to be part of England by convention, and certainly all laws which apply in England apply in Cornwall.

Having said that, I heard someone from Cornwall claiming a while back that Cornwall was not part of the UK, because only England, Wales , Scotland and NI were in the UK and Cornwall wasn't part of England.

On an aside, anyone in Cornwall who dies without leaving a will has their money given to the Duke of Cornwall - who is also the Prince of Wales.

Richard

Originally posted by Sin e an Fear
not to worry. that and many more will be available from Thursday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/spotlight/channel_islands.shtml

Bit un PC of the Beeb to call the Channel Islands part of England, as it's not even part of the UK!

I suppose that since the CI are part of the "BBC SouthWest" region, it would be awkward to list them elsewhere.

It is ironic that both the BBC and ITV offerings in the Channel Islands are so meager given that they send no MPs to Westminster and handle all their own affairs, aprt from Foreign and some Financial Matters. But then, their populations are much lower than any other region.

The IOM is even worse, with no dedicated TV regions or BBC Radio stations.

Sin e an Fear

I suppose that since the CI are part of the "BBC SouthWest" region, it would be awkward to list them elsewhere.

It is ironic that both the BBC and ITV offerings in the Channel Islands are so meager given that they send no MPs to Westminster and handle all their own affairs, aprt from Foreign and some Financial Matters. But then, their populations are much lower than any other region.

They're better served than they were before- prior to 2000 they just got BBC SouthWest bulletins from England. Channel TV is the smallest ITV franchise, and does pretty well.

The IOM is even worse, with no dedicated TV regions or BBC Radio stations.

True, and like the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man is covered
by the BBC Charter and UK Broadcasting Act. Manx Radio was originally licensed by the UK but is now licensed by the local Communications Comission. There's a proposal to have a Manx TV channel, but it's all talk for now.

Manx Television does reports for Border and BBC North West.

a crown dependency
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publication...ok/geos/je.html
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gk.html


Don't touch those CIA links with a barge pole- try these instead

http://www.gov.je
http://www.gov.gg
http://www.gov.im

Gibraltar, OTOH, is a colony, and HMG in its wisdom decided to make broadcasting a defined domestic matter. This means that Sky, BBC, ITV etc can't officially be received on the Rock, not that anyone cares. To get an idea of why satellite is so popular there, look at the local station GBC website

It used to carry BBC Prime until BBC1 and 2 became available, but dropped it. BBC Worldwide were not pleased. Contrary to reports, the Astra 2D foortprint does go that far south.

watty

Amazingly, though 2D is NOT recieved in some spanish aeras just north of Gibralter.

I think about 10 people voted to for UK gov to hand Gib over to Spain in last referendum.

The GBC schedule is SCARY. Some of the worse FTA ent channels and shopping channels on Sky are MUCH better.

Richard

Originally posted by Sin e an Fear
HMG in its wisdom decided to make broadcasting a defined domestic matter. This means that Sky, BBC, ITV etc can't officially be received on the Rock, not that anyone cares.

I suppose this is because that Gib is too far away from the UK to have been able to carry BBC/ITV Services when they started up. They weren't going to worry too much about a small place with only 30,000 people.

robert muldoon

From what I can see on the Astra 2D forum, you will get the signal depending on the size of dish, probably a dish size of 2+ cms should get you a strong enough signal for Gib

ShaneOC

Originally posted by robert muldoon
a dish size of 2+ cms

Can you get dishes that small?

watty

Actually you probabily can. But not for Ku Band.

maybe 48GHz or higher HAP transmissions

byte

Originally posted by Mossy Monk
to put an end to this

W = Waterford City
WD = Waterford County

24 hours to free BBC yay

Ah thanks for clarifying that Mossy! I didn't know that. So Waterford and Tipp (TN & TS) are the only counties that have 2 different registration.

Back on topic! :rolleyes: It will be interesting to see the BBC regions of various parts of UK.

sceptre

Originally posted by byte
Ah thanks for clarifying that Mossy! I didn't know that. So Waterford and Tipp (TN & TS) are the only counties that have 2 different registration.

Limerick as well (L & LK, no idea which is which). That's the last one though.
(the County Co HQ being in a different city/town to the city council HQ seems (or at least, unlike Cork, in a different office) to be the reason for two, the third (Tipp) one is obvious)

Sin e an Fear

I suppose this is because that Gib is too far away from the UK to have been able to carry BBC/ITV Services when they started up. They weren't going to worry too much about a small place with only 30,000 people.

Also for political historical reasons- the French treat their colonies as part of the Republic, with deputies and senators in Paris, and at great expense arrange for French programmes to be broadcast around the world to the 'DOM-TOMs'. See the RFO website.

Strangely, you can get France 2 and 3 on satellite in West Africa, but not in Reunion, which is still a French Overseas Department.

Spain has two 'Gibraltars' of its own in Morocco, Ceuta and Melilla, which are fully integrated with Spain, not that the Moroccans are impressed with that argument. (Usurped Territories = Six Counties)

I think about 10 people voted to for UK gov to hand Gib over to Spain in last referendum.

Not quite that few, but only 1% on an 88% turnout- I left the day before the poll. In 1967 it was 12 138 to 44. Imagine Ulster Unionists speaking Spanish- weird.

The GBC schedule is SCARY. Some of the worse FTA ent channels and shopping channels on Sky are MUCH better.

That's why the local 'satellite associations' have been so successful- and why the Government doesn't have the cojones to clamp down on them and have them licensed and regulated. When your only paying £50 a year for the whole Sky Digital package and £30 for a licence fee, no wonder.

sceptre

Originally posted by Sin e an Fear
Strangely, you can get France 2 and 3 on satellite in West Africa, but not in Reunion, which is still a French Overseas Department.

May or may not be something to do with the French not being too pushed about keeping it. Meanwhile the Comoros flag has four stars on it (expecting their fourth green, er, island to come home perhaps)

Sin e an Fear

May or may not be something to do with the French not being too pushed about keeping it. Meanwhile the Comoros flag has four stars on it (expecting their fourth green, er, island to come home perhaps)

No, that's Mayotte, which voted to stay French in defiance of the Comoros and the UN. Another island, Anjouan, wanted to go back to France a few years ago, but Paris said 'no'. (as did Mauritius at one point in the 19th century, as it was known as Ile de France)

Reunion has always been French, as an overseas department since 1946. RFO's website says that the emphasis is on local programming and scheduling, which coming from the French is out of character.

When you go to the French Antilles, you're in France, when you go to the British West Indies, you're in North America- period. You'll be lucky if you get BBC World. In Bermuda the three local channels are affiliates of ABC, NBC and CBS, and you get US and Canadian channels on Cablevision No BBC America or BBC Canada, though.

spuddy

Originally posted by Mossy Monk
to put an end to this

W = Waterford City
WD = Waterford County

24 hours to free BBC yay

Yea thanks mossy, i knew i wasn't seeing things, didnt know bout the limerick thing thou, all very strange and completely off topic but at least i know now!

Lennoxschips

[rant[
I always thought the Irish number plates were fairly ridiculous. A country of 4 million and some people have 9 digits in their number plate! Of course they could solve the problem by introducing letters after the county thereby creating more possible combinations, i.e. 03-D-6G9 or 03-C-5EX. (hehe) But nobody in government seems to have thought of that as of yet.

Bring back the red and black ones!
[/rant]

sceptre

Originally posted by Sin e an Fear
No, that's Mayotte

Stand corrected (mixed up the name), thanks. Just as well this thread is deadish in its original incarnation, eh? Interesting info on Gibralter/Reunion/etc telly though.